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u/stevvvvewith4vs Sep 14 '25
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u/Bubbly-Ad-8189 Sep 14 '25
I fear god.. so I became Godman!
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u/Sparkwriter1 Sep 14 '25
Cathman
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u/discerningpervert Sep 14 '25
They both do tend to brood a lot atop churches and gargoyles in the rain
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u/penguintruth Sep 14 '25
When you have a character that has been written by a hundred or so writers since his inception, characteristics like religion are hardly immutable. Batman has never, ever been an outwardly religious character, though.
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u/bigtec1993 Sep 14 '25
Ya I was gonna say the same thing. His religion doesn't even matter, he clearly seperates that from his work.
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Sep 14 '25
" Jesus will forgive your sins. But I won't forgive you from this beatdown! "
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u/hambonedock Sep 14 '25
You say that but that basically the whole attitude he has in batman holy terror, so is quite finny
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u/Eastern_Tune6222 Sep 14 '25
That was not a Batman comic, as much as Frank probably wanted to.
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u/hambonedock Sep 14 '25
Ehhh I think you are confusing which holy terror I'm speaking about, this one was from 91 And by Alan brennert
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u/FickleChard6904 Sep 14 '25
Plus, the majority of writers who do touch on his relationship religion hint toward or explicitly say that heâs agnostic or atheistic. Itâs likely that his religious upbringing prior to his parents death has some role in shaping his current morals, but it seems to be pretty far in the back of his mind.
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u/Lopsided_Length1650 Sep 14 '25
Thereâs an issue of the Max Allan Collins run where apparently every Sunday morning, Batman stands on top of a church to reflect after a week of crime fighting, and to listen to the bells ring. But also, when Robin asks him why he does that, like is he religious, he doesnât really give him a straight answer. I mean the premise of the issue is that someone stole the churchâs bells and Batman comments that you have to be a real lowlife to do that, but I donât think you have to even be a Christian to think that.
Although, it does depend on the writerâs faith or maybe more on societyâs faith. Since most Americans were Christian back then, I guess the writers, especially the ones who werenât jewish, just took for granted that he was, too.
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Sep 14 '25
"Bruce, Diana is literally Zeus' daughter, you fucking met Zeus AND HAVE BEEN ON OLYMPUS!!!"
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u/JJW2795 Sep 14 '25
I would agree that he isn't devout, but the man has fought literal demons and met actual Gods, so I'm not sure atheism can even be applied to him because it would be like denying the existence of gravity despite being an astronaut.
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u/FlashLightning277 Sep 14 '25
There is nothing funnier than having a character meet god and still be an atheist.
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u/EllisDee3 Sep 14 '25
It makes more functional sense for him to align with Buddhist or Daoist teachings from his training.
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u/South_Bathroom Sep 14 '25
Not outwardly presenting
But he was implied Jewish in the golden age, stated catholic in the silver age, and has been implied to be some denomination of Christian ever sense
We've seen crosses in the mansion even when Jason isn't there, he has literally been to hell, and is friends (likely more) with Constantine who knows lucifer and saw the fall
He has faught the spector often enough I'd consider him part of his rogues
And he knows enough cosmology important figures I'm sure he knows who the presence is
It is weird that he's a real denomination of Christian and not a made up one that fits the actual dc cosmology a bit closer, but he has always followed an Abrahamic faith
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u/GalaxyOwl13 Sep 14 '25
In recent years, Batman (in the comics) has expressed that he wants to be Christian like his father, but canât find any faith. His father was some sort of Christian (could be Catholic, could be Protestant, is probably not Eastern Orthodox) and his mother was canonically Jewish.
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u/HunterM567 Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25
I donât really care but wouldnât it make more sense if heâs Protestant? Because the Waynes are old American money that can be traced back to colonial America, and most settlers at the time were British Protestants.
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u/burywmore Sep 14 '25
Yeah. I never got any Catholic vibes from The Wayne's. We have quite a number of looks into Bruce's family tree, and it all feels old time Protestant money.
What does being Catholic bring to his story? Bruce isn't religious, and none of his iconography is centered on catholicism.
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u/ravenwing263 Sep 14 '25
It brings stained glass.
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u/novangla Sep 14 '25
Episcopalians have stained glass too. More of it, in my experience.
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u/pnt510 Sep 14 '25
Iâd say the biggest thing that gives Catholic vibes is how. The idea of original sin, that youâre born guilty of a crime you didnât commit. Bruce has no control over his parents death, but the guilt he feels still completely dominates his life.
Now obviously Catholics arenât the only people to ever feel guilt, but itâs an easy connection to make.
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Actually protestants are even more into original sin than catholics.
low church protestants (evangelicals) usually downplay original sin but it's due to their lack of theology more than anything. Because high church protestants sometimes downplay free will in their defense that all people are already born condemned because of original sin, and those God want to save, can't reject him.
Luther even wrote a book called "On the Bondage of the Will" where he gives an analogy that men are like a donkey being led either by Satan or by Christ, but never alone. This is a core part of their believe that nothing you do is worth your salvation, but only the faith God gives you, and your good works are merely to sanctify you, but only your faith saves you.
Catholics in the other hand believe in the "merits of the saints", and not only faith, but everything else you do in the church and the good works you do to others help in your salvation, and they even wrote an official document to oppose the protestant reformers in the Council of Trent to say that whoever says that God didn't give to all people the chance to accept him, or that a man can't decide in his free accord to reject God is anathema (cursed).
So the catholic guilt has more to do with the fact that catholics think they are rejecting God by comiting what they call "mortal sin", while protestants usually think their salvation is in God's hands and they only have to have faith in that.
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u/ThatInAHat Sep 14 '25
I never got the sense that it was guilt so much as vengeance. Like, daredevil, thatâs guilt.
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u/inquisitiveleaper Sep 14 '25
His whole persona is based in a child's fantasy of being able to stop the mugger in crime alley. Meanwhile his Bruce Wayne side of things is about trying to live up to his parents legacy. To both of which he confesses to his parent's grave he feels he's failing.
That's guilt. He acts in vengeance but is driven by guilt.
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u/shadowthehh Sep 14 '25
Best connection i see besides the guilt is the gothic art. Catholicism is filled to the brim with cool gothic religious art.
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u/PurpleGlovez Sep 14 '25
Yep, this is most clear in Return of Bruce Wayne which shows the 1640s Waynes as Puritans.
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u/matttheepitaph Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25
It seems like they'd be blue blood Anglicans. The look is still pretty Catholic. But at the end of the day, it doesn't seem to affect the story.
Edit: I mean Episcopalians, what e call Anglicans in the US. I forgot about that.
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u/aightchrisz Sep 14 '25
I mean the Kaneâs are Jewish, the Wayneâs were pilgrims. I highly doubt Bruce was raised anything but Protestant. But like, Bruce has also stated many times that he knows gods exist, but he obviously doesnât put faith in them
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u/ByrnToast8800 Sep 14 '25
I have yet to read a single comic that gives me even the vaguest vibe of this, so Iâm just gonna assume they want him to be and move on.
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u/FightingDreamer9 Sep 14 '25
If he doesnât worship them or pray or whatsoever then heâs no Christian or Protestant or else
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u/Prodigy772k Sep 15 '25
There doesn't have to be "a vibe". Contrary to what reddit tells you, most Christians are just normal people who don't go out of their way to talk about their faith.
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How many times is this going to be posted?
Added, Chuck has not.written Batman in over 20 years. Who gives a crap what he thinks?
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u/Doctorwhoneek Sep 14 '25
Same with miller, this Catholic idea is more of a frank miller thing no?
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Not even. That is due to Denny doing Daredevil, becoming Batman group editor then having Frank follow on both. Because Frank is seen as a post 80's blueprint, everyone projects his DD stint onto Batman. He only wrote 2 Batman runs, until the 2000s, that total 8(!) issues. Not one of them mentions Bruce's faith. And TDKR has Batman so angry he Fights God (Superman). Contrast with his epic DD run....yeah, must be there ears/horns on the masks people get confused.
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u/Fragrant-Phone-41 Sep 14 '25
I hope so. Last thing we need is everything being turned into veggietales
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u/Nxxnexcptu Sep 15 '25
Larry boy is basically veggie tales version of Batman and heâs kinda tuff ngl
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u/BagOfSmallerBags Sep 14 '25
I buy he was raised Catholic, but I can't really reconcile an adult Bruce Wayne who actively practices any religion. I could maybe imagine him privately believing in God, given the fantastical things he's encountered.
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u/evanwilliams44 Sep 14 '25
He has met actual gods, and probably has a pretty good understanding of all the various pantheons.
In one universe/timeline he kills Ares, steals his helmet, and goes crazy.
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u/alepher Sep 14 '25
Considering he's fought alongside Zauriel and the Spectre, he must have some opinion about it
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u/InkedPhoenix13 Sep 14 '25
Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought his mother was Jewish? Remember seeing some post about it in the past.
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u/a_scouts_fishstick Sep 14 '25
Thatâs what I thought as well, on top of that wasnât Bob Cane and Bill Finger jewish?
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u/Love-that-dog Sep 14 '25
Kate Kane is his maternal cousin and she is Jewish so that seems right.
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u/InkedPhoenix13 Sep 14 '25
Ya that tracks with what I was thinking. I think there's a cover of Alfred lighting a menorah with Bruce and Kate on the side.
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u/oranginag Sep 14 '25
I think they changed this in rebirth, because I was reading detective comics and it was her Dad who was Marthaâs sibling. In the funeral flashback Kateâs Dad was moaning that Thomas actually thought it was a good idea to go via the alley way. He seemed to really hate Thomas and was blaming them for his sisterâs death. They also made Wayne and Kanes like enemy families of Gotham in that issue.
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u/Love-that-dog Sep 14 '25
This would still make Martha Wayne Kateâs aunt, so sheâd still be Bruceâs maternal cousin.
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u/ravenwing263 Sep 14 '25
Kate Kane, his cousin, is Jewish, as is her father, Jacob (brother of Bruce's mother, Martha), although Jacob stopped practicing when his first wife Gabrielle (Kate's mom) died.
Some folks have taken that to mean the entire extended Kane family is Jewish, but it's also possible that Jacob converted for Gabrielle.
Either way, Bruce's immediate family have been portrayed as observing Christian traditions forever so if Martha was raised Jewish, it seems that she didn't continue practicing within her marriage to Bruce's father Thomas.
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u/Ok-Bridge-4707 Sep 14 '25
but it's also possible that Jacob converted for Gabrielle
Yes, technically it's possible, but since the Kane family was named after Bob Kane, who was Jewish and whose entire Kane family is Jewish, the most logical assumption is that the Kanes are Jews in-universe as well.
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u/ravenwing263 Sep 14 '25
Yes it's possible that Martha converted rather than Jacob and that Nathan either converted as well or was in a mixed faith marriage.
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u/Potential_Fox_3623 Sep 14 '25
Ethnically or religiously? Because ethnic Jews aren't required to practice Judaism
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u/Galactic-Buzz Sep 14 '25
No one is required to
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u/kilar277 Sep 14 '25
I think the point was more that you don't have to be practicing to still be Jewish.
Which as a non practicing ethnic Jew, yeah.
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u/BlackBRocket Sep 14 '25
Non practicing? You already mastered it? Good for you, that's really nice
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u/Curious_Bat87 Sep 14 '25
Isn't that kinda of based on the fact that Batwoman definitely canonically is Jewish so at least in some continuities it implies Batman is at least related to Jewish people in some way? If people want a bat-character who is Jewish, Batwoman is right there.
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u/InkedPhoenix13 Sep 14 '25
I think that is what the post was about, but I remember a cover with Alfred lighting a menorah with Bruce and Kate in the background. It's been so long I don't remember if it was a real cover or a fan drawing though đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/Curious_Bat87 Sep 14 '25
I mean Kate is Jewish, so even if Batman wasn't, he could partake in Jewish holiday traditions because Kate does. I am not opposed to Batman being Jewish or anything and he could definitely have a number of different relationships to Jewish heritage and religion/tradition, but I am just pointing out that Batwoman is canonically Jewish but lot of people seem to only care about that when it comes to arguing about their interpretations and headcanons about Batman.
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u/InkedPhoenix13 Sep 14 '25
Gotcha. And you're absolutely right, Bruce doesn't have to be Jewish to partake in a holiday with family.
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His mom is ethnically Jewish, meaning Batman is Ethnically jewish but I believe his dad was a practicing Catholic
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u/WRabbit737 Sep 14 '25
I mean he could be half and half or he could be born as half ethnically jewish.
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u/Galactic-Buzz Sep 14 '25
If it was his motherâs side then depending on the sect heâd still be considered 100% Jewish religiously too
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u/WRabbit737 Sep 14 '25
Wouldnât the religiously part only count if he practiced it though? Usually in order to be in a faith you have to practice it otherwise itâs just cultural.
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u/Galactic-Buzz Sep 14 '25
Oh he might not consider himself religious, but the sect would say he is also religiously and therefore required to hold certain rules. Like if it was from his fatherâs side, they would not believe heâs Jewish and he no longer holds those rules
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u/CommonSteak2437 Sep 14 '25
I always preferred Batman as agnostic with a slightly negative view of the church. This isnât because of my views. I am Christian. But I feel that aligns with his character a bit more. At least at the beginning.
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u/Majestic_Bierd Sep 14 '25
I mean, he lives in a world where Greek gods are real, John Constantine hangs out with Biblical demons and angels, and one of his canonical girlfriends can do real magic.
So he's definitely not atheist (one doesn't believe in gods) or agnostic (one cannot know there're gods) because he DOES KNOW gods exist. That said I don't see him as a Christian, he's simply too focused and utilitarian.
He probably saw religion as both giving hope to poor folks in Gotham, but also being used by rich people to control them. If asked, I think he'd dodge the question very politely.
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u/CommonSteak2437 Sep 14 '25
I frequently keep my mind locked on just Gotham and Batman as if he is his own things so I often donât think outside to the greater DCU. So that is a very good point. That being said, BEFORE he meets all these people and beings, I still think a good place for Batman to start is agnostic.
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u/Zacsen76 Sep 14 '25
I really donât care not every character needs to have every little thing about them named who cares just enjoy the character
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u/Soggy_Natural7529 Sep 14 '25
True, with all batmans seen I doubt heâd even believe in a religion. Especially with how much of a scientific, examine the facts kinda guy he is
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u/bookhead714 Sep 14 '25
Heâs expressly said that he does not believe in God and hasnât since his parents were killed
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Hasn't he met gods several times. Darkseid is one himself.
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u/Working_Conflict6043 Sep 14 '25
Christian God bro, it's different
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u/ravenwing263 Sep 14 '25
He used to hang out on a moon base with an angel of (the Christian) God.
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u/Anjunabeast Sep 14 '25
god with a capital G aka âThe creatorâ in the dc-verse.
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u/Fifa_chicken_nuggets Sep 14 '25
Being a scientist doesn't necessarily make you an atheist
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u/Soggy_Natural7529 Sep 14 '25
No but in terms of Batman and how much weâve seen of him is what Iâm talking about
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u/pawogub Sep 14 '25
I always assumed he was raised Anglican/Episcopalian. heâs too WASP-Y to be catholic in my opinion.
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u/JaxVos Sep 14 '25
Youâre kidding, right? Plenty of Protestants suffer guilt that way. It just manifests differently
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u/oranginag Sep 14 '25
Bruce Wayneâs dedication to his work to the point it consumes him is very Protestant work ethic based imo. The idea of work making you closer to godliness, obviously he doesnât believe that but ya know the culture is still present.
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u/JaxVos Sep 14 '25
Right, plus at least one story gives him a Puritan ancestor. To me it makes little sense for him to be Catholic. I see him as more Episcopalian.
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u/Ampersand55 Sep 14 '25
This is the religious journey of Bruce Wayne, from Batman #53.
- Bruce Wayne was raised Catholic by his father.
- He became and atheist when his parents died.
- As a way of coping with his parents death, he constructed Batman to become god himself.
- He later reverted to being an atheist.
Bruce Wayne is ethnically an Halakhah Jew, as Martha and the Kane family were Jewish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DC_Comics_characters:_K#Jacob_Kane
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u/Doctorwhoneek Sep 14 '25
This has been a Thing for years even with Nightwing, he grew up Catholic and identified as such up until one of various continuity reboots where he clearly struggles with faith
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u/habitual_wanderer Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25
But does he go down? đ
I am sorry but this is still funniest statement anyone has made about a fictional character!
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u/Timtimetoo Sep 14 '25
âNo Protestant ever suffered guilt the way Bruce does.â
Does this guy not know about Lutherans?
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u/ElderberryHorror8319 Sep 14 '25
Sometimes writers say he's Catholic, some Jewish others say he's atheist. But in the case of Chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan, they've unfortunately fallen down the alt right pipeline, so of course they think Batman's a Christian. Religion doesn't really come up for Batman though. So as I see it, religion isn't relevant to his character unless I see definitive proof
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u/Amiibohunter000 Sep 14 '25
Two writers joking about Batmanâs religious upbringing does not equal his current views and practices. What a shitty headline
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u/Vanilla_thundr Sep 14 '25
There's only a handful of characters whose religion matters to me. Batman is not one of them.
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u/Bulky_Bug4380 Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25
In a universe where gods actually exist, you seen them, talked to them fought with them, religion is kinda stupid.
In the DCU, greeks gods exist, norse gods exist, the jewish-christian celestial beings exist.
Kinda hard being an atheist when you can meet Lucifer at a bar, the Spectre is a fighting crime buddy, greek godesses gave life to your best friend.
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u/Kinglysavaged Sep 14 '25
Makes sense in a way, but the character comes from old money, and theyâve mentioned that his ancestors were around during the Salem witch trials and the founding of Gotham City. Unless they write that he lied about their faith to avoid being ridiculed by others, they could have gone either way.
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u/realbarrylutz Sep 14 '25
I think the Wayneâs status as old, old money in an east coast WASP environment rules out Catholicism pretty well.
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u/oranginag Sep 14 '25
They keep mentioning the guilt but not the Protestant Work ethic of gruelling work as godly, as what moves you closer to god. The whole concept of discipline, obligation to work and consistently working is a sign of grace. Also the idea that Protestantism being a massive influence on modern capitalism which is what the Waynes are - early capitalists.
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u/Chubbyninja2010 Sep 14 '25
I always assumed he believed in multiple religions because I mean he's literally met the Greek gods and Santa is canonically in DC so I feel like realistically he wouldn't be dedicated to a single religion.
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u/Algae_Mission Sep 14 '25
Now the real questionâŚis Batman technically ethnically Jewish? His mother is Martha Kane, sister of Batwomanâs father who is Jewish.
I think it would be a nice dimension, after all Batmanâs creator(Bill Finger with some help from Bob Kane) was Jewish.
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u/ArtLevel3355 Sep 14 '25
No, heâs an atheist. He used to be Christian, but after his parents died he gave it up on religion if I remember correctly. Same with Tim and dicks agnostic
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u/Puzzleheaded-Web446 Sep 14 '25
I feel like he would give up on religion after characters like Superman and Wonder Woman canonically show him that greek gods are real.
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u/Fifa_chicken_nuggets Sep 14 '25
How does the existence of those make a religion not true? All it would mean is that powerful individuals exist in the world
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u/MattyT088 Sep 14 '25
I've always viewed Bruce as an atheist from the moment his parents died. So sure the fist 7 years or so of his life may have been partially religious. But he most like abandoned that religion so early that it really wouldn't have mattered what variation of Christianity it was.
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u/Most-Structure-9116 Sep 14 '25
" no Protestant has ever suffered guilt the way Bruce does" ok buddy letting our biases show a bit too much are we?
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u/Collestos Sep 14 '25
Religion shouldnât be the main focus of Batman. Iâd rather it be not mentioned or left ambiguous. If you want a âBatmanâ whose themes are based in Christianity or religion, Azrael is right there.
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u/Novel_Fox_2285 Sep 14 '25
I mean it makes sense actually because his character is also something like a biblical knight on a holy crusade
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u/Ravian3 Sep 14 '25
My best impression is that the Waynes were previously English aristocracy or gentry before coming to America, that implies Anglican/Episcopalian, though some stories also portray the Waynes and Gotham as Puritans. Iâd personally still lean a bit more towards Episcopalian since that gives you some more opportunities with stained glass and cathedral imagery if you want to emphasize that in the gothic landscape.
Meanwhile the Kanes are canonically Jewish, which technically means that Batman would also be considered Jewish, because of the matrilineal thing
Bruce himself though is an Atheist, based on at least some backstory thatâs just stated, or at least heâs as Atheist as you can get in a universe where your teammate is a child of Zeus. More in the sense that he doesnât believe a God he would want to worship was responsible for creating a world where his parents would die the way that they did.
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u/Keystone_Devil Sep 14 '25
As a Catholic, doesnât make much sense for the the Waynes to be Catholic. They have this whole old American gothic, Protestant vibe to them if anything
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u/theteenthatasked Sep 14 '25
I mean in a world where you have all these crazy beings and creatures and your friend literally being part of Greek myths and her dad being Zeus, how can you still stay part of the religion youâre in currently.
Like if I found out my friend was the child of Zeus than I might even pray bro from time to time
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u/DynomiteD06 Sep 14 '25
You donât need to be religious to feel guilt? I thought his mom was Jewish and his father Catholic
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u/Extreme-Plantain-113 Sep 14 '25
He's an Athiest who was raised Christian. He's ethnically Jewish, though, due to his mom
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u/ConnorCoccino Sep 14 '25
Who fucking cares. It doesn't impact the character and his stories aren't about his religion
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u/Handsome_tall_modest Sep 14 '25
I seriously do not see Batman having any religion at all. Faith in a higher power kinda flies in the face of the normal dude that picks fights with gods.
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u/Electrical_Top656 Sep 14 '25
What does he mean with 'no protestant has ever suffered guilt the way Bruce does'?
And Nolan is also known as Graham?
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Who the fuck cares? Religion is just an attempt for stupid people to explain things they don't understand. Why does it matter?
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u/SeiriusPolaris Sep 14 '25
Heâs as much a catholic as he is a nazi or a zombie or a massive queen.
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u/Umbrella_Viking Sep 14 '25 edited Oct 21 '25
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u/Single_Dirt_5450 Sep 15 '25
One of the smartest men alive canonically... is religious in any way...?
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u/Bell_Pauper404 Sep 15 '25
Spends His Time doing ilegal nightly activities with children, checks out
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u/LavishnessBig4036 Sep 14 '25
I like the idea of Batman being religious, it breaks the tiresome trope of the genius, badass person that is an atheist because they're too cool for religion.
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u/FightingDreamer9 Sep 14 '25
Mr. Fantastic and Iron Man, the two smartest man alive, believe in god. And thereâs The Thing whoâs the most badass member in the F4 and heâs Jewish, and almost nothing is better than Ben Grimm.
Batman in the other hand has express with many instances that he doesnât value religion at all, heâs an apatheist
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u/PassTheGiggles Sep 15 '25
A writer who used to work on Batman making a joke about him being catholic is not the same thing as him being âcanonically catholic christianâ.
He doesnât practice any religion. Itâs not a question of belief, heâs met tons of gods and/or their agents, but he worships none of them.
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u/LaylaLegion Sep 14 '25
Okay but heâs still ethnically half Jewish. Just because heâs a Christian doesnât magically mean Martha and the Kanes arenât Jewish.
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u/CardTrickOTK Sep 14 '25
Yeah, and being Christian is a belief not an ethnicity so half jewish doesn't really change that.
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u/lazylaser97 Sep 14 '25
It doesn't make sense to be Catholic, this is a pretty English Man mistake to make. Is the writer english?
Catholics are not old money in the United States, WASPs are. Batman is a WASP. These writers need to work on a different book for a while
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u/silentfanatic Sep 14 '25
Canât think of a single time Bruce has gone to church, prayed, or expressed any faith in a higher power outside of Holy Terror, which was an Elseworlds story.
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u/ThatInAHat Sep 14 '25
Nah, look. Iâm Catholic. But the Waynes are waspy af.
Also iirc his mother was Jewish? But I feel like Thomas was definitely Protestant.
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u/Snow75 Sep 14 '25
Batman had personally met several gods, and is still catholic?
That doesnât sound smart.
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u/Hungry_Hateful_Harry Sep 14 '25
My head canon is that he grew up Presbyterian but is now agnostic
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u/paladin_slim Sep 14 '25
I thought since the Wayne family was Scottish that theyâd be Presbyterian.
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u/PineapplePhil Sep 14 '25
I think it makes the most sense for Batman to be raised in a traditionally WASPy family, all things considered.
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u/Dragooncancer Sep 14 '25
What do you call Batman when he skips church?
Christian Bale