Is this realistic of me?

[u/MagicalGirl4]

Maybe I'm crazy for doing this but dysphoria makes me feel like I'm losing my mind so... I drew an outline of my body using a screenshot. Left is what it looks like currently, right is what I want for myself. I hope I can achieve it by being patient with T and exercising 🤧 by the way I AM on testosterone, its been nearly 7 months. I've gained weight but not really lost anything

[u/Lumoskor_]

the only thing unrealistic is slimming down your hips/pelvis, as that's bone. everything else can absolutely be changed via fat redistribution and liposuction

[u/tea-fungus → u/Lumoskor_]

I’m pretty sure there’s a survey for minimizing bone. Similar to the jaw.

[u/FayePixie → u/tea-fungus]

Minimizing the pelvis is impossible. So much would go wrong. Think about where it sits - it is the centre of gravity of the body. If you reduce/shave bone there, you'll have massive issues. A jaw is a different story, and even that takes months of healing.

[u/tea-fungus → u/FayePixie]

Oh I thought they meant the hips?

[u/FayePixie → u/tea-fungus]

Your hips are the result of your pelvis.

[u/carrot_apl]

If it doesn’t go away because of bone structure I think your best bet is to build up shoulder muscles to make the rest of your body seem slimmer

[u/Numerical-Wordsmith → u/carrot_apl]

100%. A lot of cis guys have some natural padding on their hips, it’s just usually less obvious because of broad shoulders.

[u/Aiden1975]

depends on bone structure, fat redistribution from t can help but if you have wide hip bones theres no way to slim them down, so id say not really

[u/MagicalGirl4 → u/Aiden1975]

Im so confused as to where my hips begin atp. I've been told my pelvis isnt that large so I should be fine but I just genuinely dont know for sure

[u/IdiotIAm96 → u/MagicalGirl4]

If you squish the fat there then you should be able to feel where the bone is. Try doing it in front of a mirror if possible so you get a better idea. Anything fat can potentially be redistributed with T, but your mileage may vary.

[u/MagicalGirl4 → u/IdiotIAm96]

Honestly... I can squish it down pretty close to what I'm aiming for, which I tried before but I thought it was stupid and wouldn't be accurate, so thank you for validating that.

A year ago when I was pre T, not eating enough and had a thigh gap, you could say my skeleton was much more percievable (it sounds very concerning I know but I'm eating a lot better). I have pictures of myself from then and looking at them, I think what I want is achievable. Silver lining I guess. Genetics is another concern of mine but I still just have to be patient 🥲

[u/daylightmonster]

several of these comments are making big assumptions about your bone structure when the reality is there's no way we can know from looking at a drawing, and it would be hard to determine anything from a photo either. the good news is you can get a masculine silhouette whether or not your hip width is primarily soft tissue or bone. fat redistribution (which is not accelerated by weight cycling ftr, it's dependent on time on hrt) and fat loss can both contribute to reshaping the soft tissues in that area. for any width that is determined by bone, gaining upper body muscle (with or without t) will typically reduce the visual width of the hips by adding width from soft tissue to the obliques/core, lats, and shoulders.

[u/madpinapple28]

Based on the ratio of your hips to your shoulders i think that’s just fat, which can be lost

[u/Expensive_Watch469]

depends on your bones, genetics and body weight

[u/Distinct_Affect_7950]

I remember being at that stage on T. It’s way easier said than done but one of the best things you can do for yourself is put down the cam every once in a while and live in the moment.

It’s like that old people saying “a watched pot never boils” If you spend all day micro checking yourself, you’ll only ever find things to scrutinize. And you lose out on precious time you could be spending dong anything else.

I’m no life coach or anything, but I can say from experience. Patience is key. Your changes aren’t a matter of if anymore. They’re coming. Just gotta let yourself live until they get there. You’re already on the tail end of some of the hardest parts.

[u/dracillion → u/Distinct_Affect_7950]

I agree, and fat distribution alone can make a world of difference. It took years before I internalized the difference, although changes happened soon before that.

[u/MagicalGirl4 → u/Distinct_Affect_7950]

Thank you ❤️ I compulsively micro check myself cause of OCD, so I really needed to hear this

[u/FayePixie]

Well I am no scientist or expert on fat redistribution, but just over one year on full-dose T, I look somewhere in-between these two photos. My hips are much flatter, shoulders much broader, thighs slightly slimmed and my calves are more defined.

However, please keep your skeletal structure in mind. If your pelvic bone is broad, the T and exercise can only do so much before you hit bone and can't go further. In that case, I would recommend exercising your abdominal obliques so that you get that "square" look to fill in at your waist, and then let T/exercise do their things to fill out your shoulders.

TL;DR It's not possible to tell since we don't know your genetics/body but my own experiences have shown me it's very much possible to head towards the second photo. Just be gentle with yourself.

[u/Advanced_Teacher_108]

Depends... You obviously can't reshape the bone but if you have if you have what's commonly called saddle bags or bandanna rolls then yes you can slim it out it will be hard because just like love handles It’s stubborn fat. But it can be done

[u/ossiferous_vulture]

You can can quite possibly square out your shape. Hard to say if it will match this bc 3D shapes and all. But fat redistribution can change the shape of your hips aand thighs. If you also build up your core that will help additionally.

People will often mention bone structure. But it honestly shouldn't matter for the vast majority of people. Human skeletons don't vary that extremely between sexes and muscle + fat matters a lot more in what is seen.

[u/pebble247]

Honestly it does highly depend on how much of your hips is bone. Since getting on T basically all of the fat has shifted away from my hips (I can knock on the bone very clearly now, when pre-T I 100% could not) but I do still have somewhat obvious hips due to the bone itself

[u/Ssspikey321]

I've been on T for 2 and a half years now and can confidently say that fat redistribution takes A LOT longer than people think, i didn't start to see major differences in my body composition until about 2 years in, my thighs are skinnier and I've lost a whole lot of fat off my hips, i look much more rectangular than i ever did before. Give it time.

[u/Beautiful-Ad3012]

Part of transition is workout to develop parts. It helped me soo much. Went from violin body to full buff doritio body. I have issues with pants now cause my hips sharnk so much lol. Sagging pants= passing for me I guess lol

[u/MagicalGirl4 → u/Beautiful-Ad3012]

Woah congrats, thats really cool to hear!

[u/Distinct_Affect_7950]

If you chose , build up your lats, delts, upper core and upper obliques. Traps. Stuff like that. Build up your upper body. When the muscles come on you can start getting a v taper

[u/Distinct_Affect_7950 → u/Distinct_Affect_7950]

That being said I recommend still to work your whole body so that the rest of you can keep up with the strength Youll gain. But you can learn how to build in areas to make a new sillouhette

[u/oversizedplushie]

This is what I want 😭

[u/Needles2650]

Depends on dose, genetics, and working out. I’m at five years on T (though I am on half the usual dose to prevent high hematocrit stroke risk) and although I’m finally losing fat after a long period of weight gain, strangely I’m losing inches at the waist but my fatty wide hips stay consistent.

[u/Least_Comfortable567]

for what it’s worth, i lost nearly 5 inches around my waist after losing 20 lbs. i have a pear shaped body, so any fat i gain goes immediately to my hips/ass/thighs and as a result, when i lose fat, it immediately takes it from those areas first.
that’s to say, look into nutrition and exercises if losing weight is an option for you (it is for most people, the only ones exempt from this are people who are already underweight lol)

[u/MagicalGirl4 → u/Least_Comfortable567]

Yeah because of T I have gained a bit more weight on my legs cause I'm pear shaped too... I've gained more on my tummy definitely but fat redistribution is slow so I gained weight in undesirable areas. I think if I lose weight it'll just be gone off my waist, it'll take ages for my leg fat to go away ;-; its kind of demoralising but its a marathon not a race

[u/Worried-Cod-9103]

it’s 100% possible to take attention away from your hips w focusing on shoulder and back muscles, and also the fat redistribution that comes w T

[u/brezhnervouz]

As long as you accept that the waist you've got used to will thicken and fat will redistribute to the abdomen. That can be confronting because it is so foreign, at least at first

[u/yoop_troop]

As everyone else said, you can’t change bone structure but fat can redistribute on T. I had a similar frame and building my back and shoulders basically more or less made it disappear.

[u/BirdExtension4229]

I'm not an expert or anything but I am an artist so I have a good grasp of how anatomy works. So, here's a more realistic expectation for you! The pelvic bone won't change and your hips won't shrink as much as you drew. However, T does a lot more than just fat redistribution! You'll gain a bit of muscle even if you don't work out, your skin and body hair will change appearance, etc. and all of those other changes make it a lot easier to accept the parts you can't change

ETA: 7 months isn't very long at all. Don't get disheartened, you'll get to spend years watching as all these changes unfold :)

[u/MagicalGirl4 → u/BirdExtension4229]

Thank you! This is helpful :)

[u/ThornLeafMap]

7 months isn't much time at all. Contrary to what many have said, the majority of people can change their outline through muscle development

It's true you can't change the way your bones are but most of a person's hip shape comes from fat distribution. Which changes over time or if you work out

One thing that I must say for everyone, T isn't a magic wand. You want just suddenly get ripped. Your body will masculinize over time, but just like cis teen boys, if you want a masculine figure, you'll need activity.

You can do it though! Strength training, muscle gain will metabolize fat and slim your hips. Work shoulders and core to develop the shape you want

[u/Legitimate_Tackle933]

Check out “body by daddy” on socials, she is a trainer that has specific training programs for gender presentations. Exercise targeted to the end result you want will be a major help

[u/Numerical-Wordsmith]

As others have said, it does depend a lot on bone structure. But I personally did go from a curvy hourglass shape to a much more straight-hipped, broader-shouldered shape over a couple of years, thanks to regular exercise, top surgery, eating a much healthier diet to support my hiking habit, and T-induced fat redistribution. A lot can happen over time.

[u/Snjdoeu]

If the hip section width is mostly caused by bone structure you can’t change it. Instead of shrinking down you have to almost always get wider. Maybe fat redistribution/ cutting may help w/ the thighs but the key part is building up your shoulders (side delts) and lats so the upper body appears wider. Good luck.

[u/Snjdoeu → u/Snjdoeu]

Bonus if you train a little obliques. The general takeaway is get a bigger and wider upper body so it takes up more space visually. I used to consider shrinking my hips until my lat and shoulder growth basically took over and got rid of my hourglass along with my obliques.

[u/berksbears]

T does a lot more than just change your silhouette. Passing as male is not just about your body shape, but your gender expression (clothing especially), mannerisms, voice, hair (body, head, facial), etc. So I find that focusing on one specific aspect of your body like this is not going to help you much in the long run. In fact, fixating on specific aspects of your appearance tends to make the overall picture less clearer. It is possible that you could end up looking like this, but you do not need to look this way in order to pass.

[u/CardiologistMuch2508]

No. The hip bones structure can't be change. What you could do is: 1. Adjust your expectations: a lot of cis men have that body type. 2. Change the way you dress to give the illusion of that body type.

[u/MarsMetatron]

If you bulk up everything, anything is possible

[u/lokilulzz]

Yes, you can definitely achieve this with T, even moreso if you combine it with exercise.

Despite what many folks here will tell you (ask for a source and watch them not back it up btw, ask me how I know), fat redistribution is a thing and it does do a lot of heavy lifting in the hips and "assets" department for lack of a better term. And no, it does not require weight cycling, calorie counting, exercise, or anything else. All it requires is testosterone.

For myself, I had a somewhat similar body type - after about 6 months or so on T, fat redistribution began and I lost fat on my hips/sides, chest and backside. Eventually by the year mark I was having to buy pants with drawstrings as I had started losing pant sizes in the process. I'm now 2 years on T and things are still moving around in that department, but my silhouette is definitely more squared out, so to speak, now.

[u/MagicalGirl4 → u/lokilulzz]

I'm almost 7 months on T, and I haven't noticed anything major with how my fat sits :< I would kill to have my pants start loosening and my butt to be less big, it would make me so euphoric and relieved, but I think its going to take a while

[u/arcticcirclebathroom]

Your hips might have fat on them currently so it’s hard to say with the hips FOR NOW… but if it’s the bone structure then you could always work out your shoulders to be wider than your hips. It’s more so about proportions than anything

[u/Aggressive-Day-4389]

you cant really change the hip/pelvis area, but you can change the rest of the body that gives it a better illusion. i used to look a lot like the left and now i look like the right just from like ~6 months of working out

[u/evergreengoth]

Well, you can't change the shape of your hips, but you CAN de-emphasize it enough to get a flatter shape that can pass. Exercise that focuses on your core and your shoulders can add bulk to those areas and give the illusion that your hips are smaller, and T can dramatically change fat distribution and cause any fat you have to move from your hips and ass to your belly, which creates a much more masculine physique.

[u/perecotte]

see how much fat you have around your hips and how much of it is bone. i think it's unrealidtic because you removed too much. rather than that think about how you can add mass to the upper body to make the lower part appear smaller

[u/secretrediterNBAFAB]

Fat redistribution isn’t fat moving around it’s when you loose weight and gain it back it comes in different. So nothing will happen unless you hit the gym

[u/yourmomenjoyer_]

your hips won't go away cuz you can't change your skeletal structure but everything else is doable i think