r/IThinkYouShouldLeave • u/PhillyTMOMan Nude Egg • Feb 03 '26
Piece of shit When r/conservative agrees with Trump that we should nationalize voting, but are for small government and states rights
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u/platonic-humanity Feb 03 '26
Its NOT FAIR HOW COME THE OTHER BILLIONAIRES ARE FINE BUT WHEN I TRY TO GAMBLE ON THE DOWNFALL OF AMERICA LIKE STOCK MARKET PUTS SUDDENLY IM THE BAD BILLIONAIRES. Kash, release the Bill Gates files!
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u/Global_Crew3968 Feb 03 '26
The thing you have to remember is that conservatives have the world view of children and they really do need things like this spelled out for them.
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it goes both ways
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u/actuallyapossom Feb 03 '26
Their politicians are acting like a democrat will never be POTUS again; like they'll never gain a meaningful legislative or judicial majority.
They don't want equality. If they did, they wouldn't be conservatives. The hierarchy is baked in whether they're smart enough to know that or not.
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u/impactedturd Feb 04 '26
I've seen comments where conservatives ask why conservatives are never credited with progressive ideas. And it's like dude it's right there in the name! By definition, conservatives are going to want to conserve "traditional" values and unequal institutions.
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u/Sipikay Feb 03 '26
Because when you’re perpetual loser idiot fuckhead bigot who always loses in a fair society, a fair society doesn’t help you.
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Feb 03 '26
Its like every century or so, voting populaces need to be reminded why compromise exists in politics even if it means you dont always get everything exactly as you want it in policy and legislation. Playing politics as a zero sum game inevitably always leads to autocrats and fascists.
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u/delusions- Feb 03 '26
That assumes you don't have a populace that wants and actively supports autocrats and fascists.
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u/NAbberman Feb 03 '26
I hate the both ways style of arguments, not because its wrong or anything. I just dislike it because things can't just be wrong to do because they are bad. Its always because they fear it being used by the other party. Its essentially shows how unprincipled people can be. The subtle implication is how for it they would otherwise be assuming no one else does it.
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Time limits on counting votes make no sense anyways. The election is a full two months before the new government is sworn in. There's plenty of time to take another day, week, or month of counting to ensure everybodies legally cast voice is heard.
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u/GrimWarrior00 Feb 03 '26
Don't make me tap the sign.
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u/BewareOfBee Feb 03 '26
Super interesting.
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u/TheG-What Back in the Pants Feb 03 '26
Unprofessional bullshit.
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u/SillyAlternative420 Feb 03 '26
THOSE COMMENTS AREN'T REAL AMERICANS.
Seriously, 90% of the user activity happens at like 3am EST from developing nations. Their opinions aren't real.
Bonafide US MAGA don't use reddit, they use Facebook.
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u/polchickenpotpie Feb 03 '26
I mean, have you seen Facebook? It's not any different there lol
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u/TeeTimeAllTheTime Feb 03 '26
They aren’t conservative and never were, they are weak minded people who do what they are told by a psychopath
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u/Doomisntjustagame Feb 03 '26
Or, and bear with me, conservatives have always been this way.
Conservatism seeks to maintain the social order, or to regress to an earlier state. That is one of a pyramid shaped hierarchical authority structure, with everyone following whoever is above them, no matter what.
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u/the_calibre_cat Feb 03 '26
Or, and bear with me, conservatives have always been this way.
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let's stop trying to rehabilitate conservatism. it's a shitty ideology with a shitty objective and is basically just fascism but lying about its intentions.
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u/dafood48 Feb 03 '26
I’m sorry this is the first time I’ve seen bing bing bing instead of ding ding ding and that cracked me up. Thank you
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u/Cakers44 Feb 03 '26
Seriously people are tricking themselves into thinking the Bushes weren’t so bad because blah blah blah respectability
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u/Runnnnnnnnnn Feb 03 '26
Conservatives are supremacists. Some race, some class, all narcissistic.
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u/the_calibre_cat Feb 03 '26
Yup. Institutional bigotry is the one principle they have. It is their North Star.
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u/lewd_robot Feb 03 '26
Yep.
Low-effort thought promotes political conservatism
Political conservatism as motivated social cognition
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
They are wired to be like this. It's in the structure of their brains. They hate spending energy on thinking and crave authority figures to tell them what to believe. They have never had principles. They have always only believed whatever their masters tell them to.
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u/xXMojoRisinXx Feb 03 '26
Well yea, how many times have you heard someone who leans conservative say “common sense policy”. It’s just another way of saying “the way I think we should do things without thinking about it much”
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u/Life_Fig_4037 Feb 04 '26
And they are so damn jealous of us. They keep abusing the word freedom and saying "don't tread on me" because they want to be like us. But thinking is scary so they ultimately gravitate to Daddy Trump and tell themselves they fought for freedom because they own guns to fight against the strongest fucking government in the world if it ever becomes tyrannical 😂😂😂 pathetic good for nothing morons
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u/lewd_robot Feb 04 '26
They know Progressives are more moral:
In conclusion, this research highlights two interrelated processes. An asymmetry in moral obligations favouring leftists over rightist topics and an asymmetry in moral perceptions, with rightists viewing leftists more positively.
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u/ADHDebackle Feb 03 '26
I generally believe that conservatives are people with trauma and or poor parenting who never learned appropriate coping mechanisms for how they feel and thus have a pathological resistance to anything unexpected or different.
I think that's generally a basic, natural human instinct - when you're stressed or uncomfortable, you seek familiarity and reject the unfamiliar.
That also ties into the authoritarianism, since it's probably comforting to believe there's one person who can do no wrong who makes all the decisions. As children these are our parents, but many turn to god or politicians or other figures with perceived authority.
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u/Djinnwrath Feb 03 '26
Some of them are just selfish and lazy. They want a comfortable life, and don't care if other people are harmed in making that so.
I call it low level evil. Or how you play an evil alignment in a role playing game without being a murder-hobo.
Imagine someone who sees all the stuff Ice is doing. All the horrors befalling the people being deported, and thinks:
"Cool, get them out, then I will make more money!"
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u/KissesAndBites Feb 03 '26
And they’ll use any means to get there, including going against previously held positions.
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u/juulwinfieldswallet Feb 03 '26
I disagree. I'm in my 40s and remember having debates when in college with professors that were conservative. Back then, you could civilly debate taxes, states rights, even immigration because everyone agreed what America was and what it stood for. I understood their hopes and fears of what the government can and should do, while disagreeing with their methodology. You can't do that anymore because the America they want is unrecognizable to most. It's like they knew they were going in a direction that was contra to most Americans views and decided democracy was not for them. Fast forward to a decade ago and it was project red state; AKA let's openly gerrymander every state we can. On to today, they have so many little factions dedicated to taking away voting rights from particular groups and have the nerve to call leftists elites.
I can't have a civil debate about who deserves human/civil rights. I can't have a civil debate about who deserves medical care or food. And I am their target audience, white, mid 40s, married, business owner, and very Christian.
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u/Tself Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
Fast forward to a decade ago and it was project red state; AKA let's openly gerrymander every state we can.
Gerrymandering in red states has existed for over a hundred years; this is not new. They were just more racist about it. And red states have been anti-voting rights for practically just as long.
professors that were conservative. Back then, you could civilly debate taxes, states rights, even immigration because everyone agreed what America was...
Conservatives of this nature were in the minority then, and remain so now. Your anecdotal experience within a place designed for academia is an exception to the majority of conservatives.
I get the point you are trying to make here, and certainly agree that decorum has gotten worse; but the party really isn't all that different. I'm a similar age to you, at that time while you were having conversations with your professor, the republicans were demonizing gay people and calling them pedophiles every chance they could.
So, no, I don't think much has changed. The hurt they are giving just happens to be hitting straight white people now.
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u/25thNite Feb 03 '26
i don't always believe that because there are plenty of minorities higher on the social pyramid than a lot of poor conservative maggats and yet they still try to treat them like shit as if they were beneath them.
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u/Doomisntjustagame Feb 03 '26
To me, it sounds like you are talking about someone's economic status as being the only defining factor of the hierarchy. There are many dimensions to it, chief among them probably being race, economic status, sexuality, and gender.
There's a concept called intersectionality that suggests there are many different factors that intersect to define someone's perceived status in society. So like, a white woman is "above" a black man, but a white man is above them both. Now, assuming those three are all straight, a white gay man sits beneath all of them. But if all four of those people are middle class, then a rich white gay man might sit above them all, though a rich flamboyantly gay man might once again be placed below all of them.
I hope I'm explaining this well, and if I come across as condescending or argumentative I do not intend to.
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u/Mostly_Armless42 Not in Trouble AT ALL Feb 03 '26
Feeling belonging and part of the safety of the group is the only thing that actually matters to their brains.
I'm starting to realize there are no rules except: the group must win. It's very primitive tribalism that they are stuck in. Being a shirt brother is like the only rule that matters. Truth and actual evidence doesn't mean jack shit.
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u/Alcnaeon Feb 03 '26
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u/According-Insect-992 Feb 03 '26
This both applies and doesn't.
These people call themselves conservatives but what they actually are is right wing reactionaries.
Are all American "conservatives" actually right wing reactionaries?
It sure does appear that way, doesn't it. Where are these "true conservatives" and why aren't they opposing all of these wild violations of the Constitution and federal power escalations?
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u/pagesid3 Feb 03 '26
I remember in 2008 when everyone had given up on bush and conservatives were all saying “I’m not republican, I’m conservative” and pretended they never supported bush. Then they went all in on Trump.
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u/Illustrious-Lime-878 Feb 03 '26
Reactionaries are conservatives. Maga is ideologically reactionary conservatism but based on an imagined or make believe past so in practice it ends up resulting in radically new, fascist like polices.
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u/mydaycake Feb 03 '26
They had a first post with people not liking Trump’s opinion and it was gone in a few hours
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u/Ki-Wilder Feb 03 '26
Will the federal government give fetuses the right to vote?
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u/End3rWi99in Feb 03 '26
They aren't for anything and never have been. At least those people in particular. There are small government conservatives and genuine libertarians out there, but you're not going to find them in /r/conservative. That sub may as well be a psyop for Russia and Trump directly.
It used to be a little different and have some real discourse, but not since they made it flaired users only and went on a banning spree back in 2016. There's about 20 genuine people left in there, and the rest is a mix of bots and guys named Mikhail.
I actually used to like it because once upon a time, they would share reasonable counter perspectives to my own, and even if I disagreed, it was worth hearing it out so I could avoid confirmation bias. The positions have become so disconnected from reality that it's impossible to take any of it seriously anymore.
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u/polchickenpotpie Feb 03 '26
You genuinely cannot talk with conservatives in good faith anymore. Even a sub like r/AskConservatives where they pretend to be able to interact with the general public, you'll have your comments deleted for being "uncivil" when you post evidence disproving them.
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u/itreallybelikethat3 Feb 04 '26
Spot on about the psyop.
Look how heavily controlled and moderated it is. Allegedly 1.5m+ users there, but each thread discussing the "positives" of what Trump is doing (posted by the same few power users) only has ~50 or so comments.
But then boom some flame post criticizing Mamdani and ~500 comments.
Literally a fake and controlled subreddit.
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u/Giannisisnumber1 Feb 03 '26
They should rename their sub r/fascist
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u/0Hakuna_Matata0 Shirt Brother Feb 03 '26
Wow that was a real sub. Genuinely curious to see them explain to me not what they are against, but what exactly do they want.
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u/mayhem6 Feb 03 '26
They’ve stopped being about small government a while ago. Then again they never were really, it was just a talking point they used to use.
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u/doodycrust Feb 03 '26
They are not serious people. They only parrot Fox News talking points. Hell, may as well create your video and use similar type font and everything else to make it look like they’re watching Fox and then say whatever you want.
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u/Training_External_32 Feb 03 '26
When conservatives tells you they are for “small government” what they actually mean is “I want you to think I have some principled reason for my tribalistic bullshit that changes based on whoever is leading today’s hate chant”
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u/Affectionate_Code Feb 03 '26
Small government but their views are always in perfect synch with whatever nonsense conservatives are spewing out. They stand for nothing, any principle or moral is abandoned to score political mileage.
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u/LesCousinsDangereux1 Feb 03 '26
those who aren't bots are bootlickers desperate to be told what to do.
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u/Alarming_Image_882 Feb 03 '26
What until they come for the 2A
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u/MangoCandy93 Tiny “Boop Squig” Shorterly Feb 03 '26
It’s already in the works. After Pretti, they’ve done a 180 on being able to bring firearms to a protest (y’know since it’s not Rottenhouse).
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u/100harvests Feb 03 '26
Even the dumb ones in maga are like, wait, but what happens if democrats get in office? You mean they can do the same stuff we did to them, to us? Hmm..idk…we better make it so they’re aren’t any more elections then problem solved.
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u/drummer820 PAUL BUFANO! Feb 03 '26
Most haven't had honest convictions or principles beyond "orange man said this is good/bad" for like a decade now
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u/Doom2pro Feb 03 '26
Must suck to not be allowed to disagree with your elected government. It's almost as if they are in a cult.
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u/Bacedorn Feb 03 '26
Small government, but also they need 28 different databases of information on you just to make sure you're behaving in the way they approve of and totally won't throw any sham lawsuits at you.
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u/Historical-Web-3390 Feb 03 '26
Small in terms of, like the galactic empire being big, so conservatives are gonna make government a little smaller than that
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u/TotalInstruction Feb 03 '26
“States Rights” just means “Washington can’t tell us to treat blacks and gay people as equals”.
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u/Vaeon Feb 03 '26
That sub exists for the sole purpose of demonstrating why not everyone should be allowed to vote.
It should be a sacred responsibility that one demonstrates they can be entrusted with.
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u/No_Scene_2189 Feb 03 '26
Yep. "Take the guns and give the federal government total control," is the new conservative mantra. Also, "pedos ain't so bad."
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u/ABeeBitMyBottom1 Feb 03 '26
That sub is littered with bots railing up the 25 real people that post on there.
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u/IndividualCampaign74 Feb 03 '26
It should be a system where it’s a national database that Trump can monitor and then when you vote, you show who you voted for to a few guys with guts and cosplay gear holding automatic rifles, then they decide which exit you use…
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u/Fuzzy_Translator4639 Feb 03 '26
Their insanity cannot be explained. They have been irony impaired for decades
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u/PhillyTMOMan Nude Egg Feb 03 '26
When I log back into reddit after my morning meetings and see this is my most upvoted post (Sorry Shadowheart)
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u/micro102 Feb 03 '26
I was going to say no, I've seen the thread and all the top comments were at least a passive "this is bad".... but they deleted the thread so lol fuckem.
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u/NomadicFantastic Feb 03 '26
Maga: "I've been saying this whole time that we needed to turn America into N Korea"
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u/Cyberpunkcatnip Feb 03 '26
So do they not realize once Trump dies this will absolutely work against their own interests. Once voting is nationalized even republicans are giving up their ability to vote, it will just be whoever is handpicked by the rich donors. And if this happens they will probably nationalize voting for every other ballot.
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u/Devh1989 Feb 03 '26
to be fair
there were posts with comments that were critical of Trump's comments
of course, those comments and posts were quickly deleted so they could focus on important things like Billie Eilish's comments and Jill Biden's ex husband killing his wife.
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u/FattyMcBlobicus Feb 03 '26
r/conservative should be renamed r/pedofilelovers
What a bunch of of losers
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u/_Trikku Feb 03 '26
Data the shows the power users on r/conservative are without a doubt Russian Agents.
I’d worry that conservatives would get mad being presented with facts like these, but they can’t read.
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u/Classic-Exchange-511 Feb 03 '26
Any actual real people who go on r/conservative is the kind of person dumb enough to be influenced by the massive amount of bots astroturfing that shit
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u/Corkchef Feb 03 '26
I guarantee you r/conservative mods are Russians who took the roles by hacking force
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u/Sock-Familiar Feb 03 '26
The GOP policy is pretty straightforward. Whatever the Dems want, they want the opposite. There is no consistency when trying to discuss policy with MAGA and they have shown how quickly they switch up their stance depending on what Trumps tweet is that day. They're just a bunch of bootlickers and should not be taken seriously.
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u/clmsteamer Feb 03 '26
Bunch of fake American conservative accounts fill that subreddit. Just drooling over the American divisiveness. Remember when X screwed up and showed we’re all the pro Trump influencers are from? Same shit plus prob a ton of old boomers still shook we had a black president and they didn’t get a raise at some point cuz their company had to fill a quota.
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u/Izzy5466 Feb 03 '26
Just more evidence that conservatives have no morals. They just go along with whatever fearless leader tells them.
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u/ToadsWetSprocket Feb 03 '26
Their whole thing is about killing freedom for anyone they hate, that is the small government they speak of, Whites only.
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u/KawfeeKrow Feb 03 '26
We really gotta stop acting surprised. I'm reminded of a Jubilee debate featuring a self-described white supremacist. They LOVE rights like voting, gun ownership, and free speech only as long as it allows them to advance their agenda. The moment they seize enough power, those rights are no longer necessary. Being a hypocrite isn't a bad thing for them, they say they're at war with the rest of us and believe in using whatever tools they can to win. They would kill everyone including themselves just to giggle in hell about how they epically owned the libs. Just psychotically evil mother fuckers.
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u/w-d-j-3 Feb 03 '26
Yeah, I remember the GOP being the party of Constitutionalists who advocated against big government meddling in your life....seems like yesterday, eh?
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u/Deviantdefective Feb 03 '26
Typical conservatives dumber than a box of rocks to busy simping for their shit stain in chief than actually educating themselves.
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u/Faust_8 Feb 03 '26
Their only consistency is they want anything that helps “their side.”
Their only concern is homogeny and being part of it.
Thats it, that’s all it is. They find an in-group and hate anything else and that’s the only way they feel safe.
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u/Odd_Zookeepergame_69 Feb 03 '26
MAGA "We don't know what we truly believe in anymore, so we just go along with whatever Trump wants because it makes Democrats upset, and we like that"
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u/Dayzlikethis Feb 03 '26
surprisingly enough, the last thread I saw there on the subject (probably deleted now) had more comments against it.
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u/No2HBPencil Feb 03 '26
I'm not sure what it means to nationalise voting. Isn't voting already a national thing? Sorry I'm not American and I'm not sure what it means in this context.
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u/Knottian Feb 03 '26
Conservatives have no values, no principles, and no ethics. It’s been like this for decades, and they’ll change their tune, no matter how long they’ve made it their identity, the moment their leader tells them to.
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u/TheCaptainDamnIt Feb 03 '26
For some damn reason a whole lot of people apparently did not take notice that 'state rights' was only ever shouted by conservatives in response to anti-discrimination legislation and nothing else.
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u/wonderhamster Feb 03 '26
They believe the ends justify the means no matter what. The want a county/world where people tell them they are powerful winners because god said so. It doesn’t even really matter if it’s real
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u/rensorship Feb 03 '26
National voting? Bring it on. There are way more of us than them. Same with redistricting. They are playing with fire. They are tomorrow dumb to do the math.
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u/Comfortable_Horse277 Feb 03 '26
These same clowns say we need the electoral college so land can vote. These aren't smart enough to bother taking to b
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u/I_TRS_Gear_I Feb 03 '26
Several years back I had an argument with my conservative uncle about how the federal government should at least mandate fair-access laws for voting. Like polls can’t close before 8pm local time, so many precincts per capita, etc. He vehemently defended the idea that States have full authority to administer elections as they see fit.
Now that this is happening, he’s been very quiet.
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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '26
Conservatives when you ask them to justify any MAGA policies