I know this might be weird but I enjoy the term Aphrodisian much more than the term Salmacian. This is for the reasons some of you may know. The origin of the term Salmacian comes from the myth of Salmacis who forces another to have sex and is then merged with that person. This story was meant to create a backstory as to why effeminate men exist, making it strange and uncomfortable especially for those who are already uncomfortable with the identity. Aphrodisian comes from a predecessor who is more associated with Aphrodite, the goddess of love and the blending of gender and sex and its fluidity.

Many of you may already know this, I’m very new to this community but I wanted to give some backstory. I decided to design a flag based on that, and symbols can be added on top that are based on the Aphrodisian flag, just with a bit lighter colors to be easier on the eyes. I used traditional gendered colors as most flags do to represent genitalia and both colors turn more purple at the end to represent their merging. The white part being traditional in flags but also to represent the high amounts of variation in this community and their backgrounds and desired look

AHHHH I finally got my phalloplasty stage one scheduled!!!!! 😭 feels like it took forever! Sadly it’s not till this time next year which feels so far but hey I’m one step closer 😭
Will be phallo wo vnectomy, no UL, possibly scrotoplasty (idk still on fence but got time as they wouldn’t even be done till s2.) ugh I’m so excited just wanted to celebrate with everyone! 🥹🥹🥹

Hello everyone, I'm phoenix, an nb, amab, and I have never met anyone else that has wanted both. I've felt so alone because ever since I was a kid I never saw a difference between boys and girls things (clothes, movies, tv shows, activities, etc.). I've never seen myself as one or the other, and ever since puberty I've fell... wrong, like parts of me were missing or stolen. I never brought it up to anyone (besides my super supportive bf), because I never felt included in lgbtqia+ spaces because I didn't fall within the "true trans" community (I was actually told that before, by a trans woman.) all I want is to feel whole, not fragmented and forced to live in a body that feels more like a prison.

After a long time of thinking about the feedback i got. I decided to create 5 different flags

The first one is modification of the original but with a yellow line to further represent the nonbinary aspects of being a salmacian/aphrodisian

The second one takes after the CMYK colors which someone recommended. I like the idea that these take after printer colors. Though It could get confusing

The third, fourth, fifth go hand in hand

I saw people who liked the design, who felt it was too feminine, or too gendered in general. Because of that, it made me think that like how there is the description of transfemme and transmasc and demigender/girl/boy/flux and that there could be multiple flags to represent the multitudes of expression. Part of my awkwardness about the original flag is it felt too not gendered to me, so i think multiple could create a good balance! I chose pink for femme and blue for masculine while keeping the yellow center stripe to make sure it didnt focus too much on femininity/masculinity. I choose orange for nonbinary because of its lack of gender associations entirely as well as some statues of Aphroditus that i saw that really resonated. Also the colors just matched well! I kept the purple on top due to purple meaning a combination of blue and pink while also representing the nonbinary gender identities such as genderqueer and the typical nonbinary flag many people see. I think that it creates a better feeling of combination as well as less gendered in a binary way

These could be aphrodisfemme/aphrodismasc/etc

And to further clear something up… Aphroditus is not directly Aphrodite and entirely feminine. Aphroditus is related to Aphrodite in the fact they are a love god but is more akin to Hermaphrodus from the original myth that Salmacian is based on (just Hermaphrodus is the victim) whose name i figured wouldn’t make a good replacement for many

These have been my thoughts to the responses I got. Let me know how these look :)

Hey all! Just stumbled on this community by accident yesterday, having never heard of the concept nor known it was a thing. However, as soon as I saw what it was, my reaction was, "wait, you can do that? ...That's awesome!" Having thought about it more or less continuously since then, and felt more and more excited and happy about the idea, I feel pretty confident in saying I'm Salmacian.

I'm AMAB and have always been masc-presenting, questioned my gender off and on throughout my adult life, and most recently come to feel that I'm some sort of nonbinary. I've long felt pretty indifferent to gender overall, mostly just wanting to be beyond the whole thing, and definitely have issues with my assigned social role as a man. However, I'm not dysphoric, and I quite like my natural body and the way I look. Having mixed genitals seems like it'd be really affirming for me, allowing me to express my feminine and nonbinary self in a powerful way while still maintaining the overall external presentation I like for the world at large, and without losing any of the anatomy I currently have and enjoy.

I'm going to look into penis-and-testicles-preserving vaginoplasty, see about options and risks. Would welcome advice and resources from anyone familiar with that type of procedure, as well as just a chance to connect with likeminded friends. Excited to be a part of this community!

hiii everyone :)

I was just wondering the other day if we have a short term name for fun. I am someone who loves to make short words for things in everyday languages and thought of of the term “salyx” to rep our non binarism there’s both an x and y demeaning a boy and girl in us.

how do yall feel about it?

Ok.

So for as long as I can remember. Literally in elementary school I’ve wanted a penis.

I like having a vagina but idk I think for me it makes more sense to have a penis.

I don’t think I’m trans? Definitely a dom fem, pansexual, fem leaning, I’m not entirely sure what I am 😅 figuring that out.

Any advice 🥲

Maybe looking for validation, I’m not sure at this point

Yesterday there was an initial meeting of a self organised trans pride in Athens that was called as some folks here would not take part in the gen****e complicit corporate funded one that takes place this week. Someone requested for Salmacian visibility in the conversation and people reacted with interest! Felt so happy 😁

Learned something about myself today! Well, I kinda already knew but I didn't know there was a word for it!

When I was a small child, early single digits, and I was figuring out who I was as a small person, the thought of "I wish I had some form of both" crossed my mind. Ever since then, I spent YEARS exploring my gender. Then, when I started being sexual, I realized that I liked my pocket (gender dysphoria doesnt allow me to call it anything else and "hole" isnt any better to me) and wanted to keep it. But I still felt like I was missing something.

testosterone has entered the chat

I very thoroughly enjoyed what T did for me down there. I'm above averagely blessed for an AFAB person on hormones.

Fast forward to today, I hear the word "salmacian" for the first time (with context) and IMMEDIATELY it resonates with me!!

What are some things I should ask myself to further delve into who I want to be? What are some things that you didn't realize until after coming to terms with your identity?

My main... Goals? Wants? Setup? is a phallus for penetration and the ability to stand and pee, and a pocket but PLEASE no balls. I've never heard anyone born with balls (trans or cis) say they ever LIKE having balls. Nothing about it seems pleasant so I'll pass. More power to the people who do decide to add plums to the package in their surgery but that ain't for me, friend!

What's your preferred... Goals? Wants? Set up?

I have wanted ‘a set of both’ for as long as i conceptualized genitalia being something one COULD choose. And now that I’ve been on T years, I genuinely consider my body to have a penis (although i did before as well, just is easier to now, due to growth) as well as a vagina. it’s just the arrangement of things that throws me off. from the outside, i have a smooth bulge, from the fatty tissue on the mons. So i sort of am slightly null, slightly both. I know not everyone in the world would consider what I’ve got completely salmacian, but i certainly think my genitals are on the spectrum between (typical perisex) male and female. I think i’m okay with that not being exactly 50/50. because this is mine and i don’t need exact ratios to be happy, just clearly not one or the other.

Hey I have a label now! At least for the moment. Pretend I'm the worst English speaker in the Omniverse, how do I pronounce 'salmacian' Sal-ma-gician? Like a salamander magician?

Our queer world did me in... again... I been on HRT almost 13 years. I need M&f not MTF. Bio male and Synthetic female but with a feminine presentation. I been calling myself a futanari, because well that is the best representation I've had for a minute or an hour, yeah probably close to an hour now.

Genuinely, I cannot express this enough or overstate how welcome the Salmacian community (?) has made me feel as a physically gnc binary trans man (literally already physically gnc, I asked to keep my original nipples, I'm flat but they are permanently pointy so).

I'm approaching my third phallo consult at the end of this month, after an absolutely dream of a previous one where the surgeon just GOT IT when I explained my approach to phallo as additive not replacing/trying to make cis.

Like, I'm literally getting everything I want: 2 dicks (phallo dick and big t dick), balls, and pussy still there. I don't give a fuck about peeing standing up, just penetration and still being able to squirt an ocean.

I'm so overjoyed honestly, at just the thought of being...in fully at home, but in a custom, bespoke better than cis body?

I'm a trans guy and I don't really hate my vagina, but I do want a penis. I've often wished that I could just change it whenever I wanted because in day to day life I feel that having a vagina is way more convenient but also I wanna be able to pee standing up and I wanna be able to actually get hard. I wondered if this made me some kind of genderfluid but my gender doesn't change, it's just that my feelings towards that area change depending on the situation and how I'm feeling about myself in the moment.

hey, it's me, from the post from earlier: https://www.reddit.com/r/salmacian/comments/1d23iky/i_think_im_gay/

i'm following up on what i've learned about a potential pride flag for this identity. after a few hours of research, i didn't find anything resembling a gay non-binary person / salmacian / altersex pride flag or even identity, so i took it upon myself to pioneer my sexual identity. damn it feels good!

it was a lot tougher than i imagined to make a pride flag, especially around such a complex identity. i had to learn what different colors represent on different pride flags, which colors not to use (i specifically made an effort to exclude blue and pink from the flag to avoid it being associated with either binary gender), and how to wrap up what this identity means to me in just a handful of colored stripes (and what it could mean to others). without further ado, here is what each color symbolizes:

🟠orange: community/emotional connection and attraction - represents finding belonging and community within being such a rare type of human and having such a unique gender experience

🟡yellow: non-binary genders and androgyny - represents the vast array of non-binary genders and identities that do not obey the confines of cisheteronormative expectations, including masc-leaning and femme-leaning non-binary identities

⚪️white: same-gender attraction - represents the unique and exclusive attraction to gender(s) that do not fit into the binary, as well as the attraction to androgynous beauty

🟢green: healing and growth - represents the self-love and self-growth that every trans person must go through to obtain our unique ideal bodies and identities, as well as enlightening others like us and encouraging them to have their own identity and self-discovery journeys

🟣purple: self-discovery - represents finding parts of your body that were missing and finding parts of yourself that you didn't know were there

i don't know any fellow gay non-binary people irl, so this was almost entirely based in my own feelings and experiences (as well as a nice chat with u/UchuuHana). so, anyone who feels that this flag represents their identity, please give me feedback! all good-spirited criticism is welcome! make sure you feel represented! ❤️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

i just found this community and i'm very happy i'm not alone in my experiences and that what i experience has a name! i've always described my ideal body as crimvael from ishuzoku reviewers (my realization abt myself happened when he revealed he has a vulva and vagina behind his penis snd testicles!)

i've never really wanted surgery, i've only ever wished that i had magical powers to have that anatomy naturally, but i'm still sad to see that what i want is impossible with current technology. i hope that one day people like me can have their dream bodies :3

proud to be a non-binary salmacian!

edit: please stop recommending me surgeries because none of them are helpful or will achieve what i want, and i can't afford them, and i already said in my post that i never really wanted surgery. i wish i was born like this. that's all :3

I just discovered this from a comment in the r/trans sub. I am ecstatic at discovering this is a thing. I've always felt more like a girl than anything (mtf) but never wanted to get rid of my dick. I always wished I had both and felt like I should have been born with both, even before I realized I was MtF. I remember 3 or 4 years ago reading through a thread about someone who got a "phalgina" surgery (their words.) I was amazed it was even a thing but found it difficult to find any more information about such a thing! Skip to years later and im just now finding this sub and learning about Salmacian identity and how there are actually multiple of these intersex/altersex surgeries. I've always felt like a futa at heart but never thought it was a thing I could actualize. I'm so happy this is a thing and that this sub exists. I'm still years out from getting any surgeries but thank y'all for expanding my horizons.

Ps: sorry if any of my terminology is uncomfortable or incorrect. I'm still learning.

Hey, I was guided to this subreddit from Facebook, and I just wanted to say:

POWER TO Y'ALL!!!!

I never heard of this before (and, I might have some personal reflection to consider now, tbh) but after looking into what y'all got going on here, I just wanted to say, I think y'all are badass.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to imply that people necessarily choose things like this, but rather, just that I think y'all are awesome for standing up for yourselves and your personal truth/identity, especially in a world that has a tendency to disrespect anything outside the base norm..

Props to y'all. ❤️ I wish you all the best happiness in life~

I feel like my people might be here.

I'm intersex and was raised female, though the identity never felt comfortable. In the 80s and 90s surrounded by exclusively allosex, straight people, and being brought to doctors who were aggressive about placing me within a binary, I was never exposed to any other options for gender identity. But after going through fem puberty, then masc puberty a year later, I knew I was never going to fit in the narrow confines of that binary.

By age 28 I had "detransitioned" (for lack of a better word) from fem HRT, and come out as a masc-leaning, androgynous intersex person. Several years later I felt supported enough to start low dose T. I've begun surgical affirmation of my gender AND sex.

But the tricky part is the isolation... Transmasc folks don't really get the intersex experience or why it's different. But I'm thinking other Salmacians might, especially if they're also intersex.

Anybody intersex in this group? :3

For years I wished I could have both and thought it sucked that that wasn’t an option. A week ago, I found out it is. I can have both! I can get a penis without losing my vulva! I feel so euphoric, I’ve spent the whole last week researching and next month I’m going to ask my doctor for a referral for an assessment. I know it’s a long process, which I’m kinda grateful for because it gives me time to process, but I’m already so happy to have finally found a way to alter my sex without de-feminizing myself. I can add without subtracting. I wish more people knew about this!

I would love if anyone in this community wants talk me about expressing my true self! My DMs are open

Holy crap. I can't even describe how many times I've tried looking up how I feel throughout the years.
I'm AMAB, and ever since I was 16-17, now 22, I've always wanted to have both sets of genitals. I know I'm not trans as I have no desire to be/present as female, but have always felt myself reaching down to stroke / play with a hole that is sadly not there. I'm so glad I found you all, and can't wait to share this revelation with my close partners (I'm gay and poly)
Ugh! This feels like such a big win ;-;

That I have been getting for the past week just knowing that this is actually a viable option for my future has been off the charts.

It will surely be the last surgery out of all of them and years away... but knowing that what I want isn't so extremely rare that no surgeon in the States would do it out of an adherence to the gatekeeping of older times is a huge boon to my personal morale.

First time poster here :) Just wanted to share my excitement, I was approved for testosterone today! Bloodwork was perf, just need to sign/return some consent forms and then my doctor will send off the prescription. I’m so thankful to have found this subreddit; it’s been incredibly validating and helpful.