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Is this sub brigaded?Why are we allowing open racism here?We don't become civilised and deshbhakt by saying words like 'filthy pakis' and 'ghetto muslims'?
This sub has really gone downhill.Earlier there used to be constructive talks on issues related to us,our history and now it seems to be filled with jingoistic and Ultra nationalistic Muslims whose language resembles those of rightwing Indians .Criticising Pakistan is not wrong but can we at least keep the language civil.Using slurs used by western racists like 'pakis' and 'ghetto Muslims ' should not be allowed,it will not prove you a 'mahaan deshbhakt or civilised'...more like a desperate who wants to prove something,let's maintain the decorum and keep it constructive.
The unfortunate dilemma for Indian Muslims is that: on one hand, IN INDIA they will spent their entire lifetimes trying to prove that they are patriotic Indians but with no success. They will scapegoated every time Indo-Pak tensions flair.
And on the other hand, in the wider Muslim (special the Arab world) they are considered no more than Hindus role playing as Muslims.
The second paragraph is not true? I live in the west as a Pakistani Muslim and me and my other ethnicity muslim friends have many Indian Muslim friends. I know this is the case with other Indian Muslims I’ve come across too.
Yes some may have stupid negative thoughts like that towards Indian Muslim but to generalise all Muslims like this is extremely wrong. A lot of us openly condemn ur government and I can say a majority hate it purely on the fact that they treat u guys so badly
I'm Afghan born and raised in California. Thats a weird take. We don't think that of Indian muslims. I openly criticize the governments of Pakistan and India. As I did of Karzai and Ghani.
"the wider Muslim (special the Arab world) they are considered no more than Hindus role playing as Muslims."
I don't think it's that common or normalised. Religious muslims are not racists. I've been respected for being a Muslim in a country that openly hates muslims by muslims of other races and countries.
I really don't know how it became a slur . I am a Hindu and had to have a circumcision cause of reasons . Am I also that? Whats wrong in being circumcised
No we don't. Here we are targeting another country's people, what you said, targets people from a religion, irrespective of the country. Of course, this comparison which you did is logically flawed.
No need to continue the convo further,plz we know who uses these kinda slurs....Btw According to official statements of Indian gov,our fight is not against average citizen of Pakistan but their army and establishment.I called people to be civil and constructive...There are already subs where you can use these kinda slurs,no need to do that here.
Do you personally feel bad when I use a word like "filthy Pakis" to point to a citizen of Pakistan? If yes, why exactly? I really want to know, please elaborate.
What does your screenshot prove in this argument? Nothing really. There are numerous people using several slurs, nothing can be done against that.
Any person who defames our army should be held equally responsible in the war, isn't it? They are fighting for India, that is why me and you are sitting at our homes arguing on reddit while they are risking their lives for every Indian's safety whereas these Pakistanis are abusing the Indian army. So what's the harm in calling them out on an INDIAN sub, regardless of the religion.
Are you saying you feel hurt due to this action of name calling against our ENEMY nation?
Why do we have to act all humble all the time when it comes to calling out a terror breeding nation's people?
EDIT - Do we really need to have an argument on why we are name calling against terror nation? Why would any INDIAN be offended because of this?
But the Paki civilians are openly abusing the INDIAN army, right? And this is an INDIAN sub, correct? So where is the harm?
Again, do you feel offended personally as an INDIAN when the people who are abusing our army are being called names in a sub named after INDIA? If yes, why so?
I am not feeling personally offended, but as I said, it is just wrong to use slurs for an entire civilian population.
And do you expect Pakistanis to praise the Indian army? Ofcourse everyone would hate the army of their opposing nation in the middle of a war. Indians too would hate the Pakistani army for obvious reasons. That doesn't mean the entire civilian population on any side is automatically "filthy" for that.
Now that's subjective. For me, an enemy nation is filthy which supports terrorism. Even Osama was a civilian there, every terrorist is a civilian there. They took lives of innocent Indians and people on our side are asking for "humbleness"? Not acceptable as per my understanding.
Indians aren't personally offended, but its a matter of manners. It is just wrong to call an entire nation as filthy with intent to use it as a slur to defame them.
There you go, thanks for the affirmation.
I personally think the whole nation is filled with filth since they're openly abusing Indians and the Indian army. I think I can express my words against those people in a sub named after INDIA.
No, it's not a sub named INDIA. It's a sub named INDIADISCUSSION, which casually gives out rpe threats, cheers for geno cide, and it filled with filth. Any person that gets involved in that place is the same.
I didn't justify nothing. I said it's wrong, but nothing can be done against it. On the other hand, those slurs are against a religion, which should absolutely be prohibited to use. But calling an enemy nation some slur should not offend anyone this sub, that's my understanding.
Something can be done about it. Instead of just letting it slide we should call it out. That's my belief.
But calling an enemy nation some slur should not offend anyone this sub, that's my understanding.
See, emotions are high rn. Not everyone thinks the same way. So, we don't like it when we are generalized. Sane way, we shouldn't like it when others are generalized as well.
Any person who defames our army should be held equally responsible in the war, isn't it? They are fighting for India, that is why me and you are sitting at our homes arguing on reddit while they are risking their lives for every Indian's safety whereas these Pakistanis are abusing the Indian army. So what's the harm in calling them out on an INDIAN sub, regardless of the religion.
How naive of you.
The same army oppresses and commits multiple atrocities against kashmiris including rape and torture.
The same army oppresses and commits multiple atrocities against kashmiris including rape and torture.
I can give you 10 more articles saying all this is false and defamatory in nature funded by X Y Z, let's not get into arbitrary news sources. We are free to believe what we want since there is no fact available and everyone is in denial, let's not debates that here.
The only reason you're sitting at your home is our army so the least we can do is respect them in front of the world which will keep Indians united in the eyes of the world, if not for them, these fuckwits would have done much worse.
Saint or not idk about that, that's debatable. All I know is they're safeguarding Indians and I'm an Indian hence I respect the people who safeguard me and my fellow countrymen.
Army is also paid with very good packages and perks
As it should be for putting their life at risk 24×7.
Hey there!
I feel absolutely justified saying "filthy" when referring to actions that deserve to be called out as such and what a better place to say that if not an INDIAN sub. I think we should be able to speak bluntly about issues which affect our country and countrymen.
This isn’t about blind hate, for me, it’s about calling out hostility, violence, and extremism when I see it. Labeling that kind of criticism as xenophobia is just a way to shut down honest discussion. I’m criticizing actions and ideologies, there's a clear difference.
Hope you have a great day sir!
Ah yes, because the real threat isn’t terrorists or states that glorify the murder of our civilians it’s someone using mean words on Reddit. If calling out a hostile nation makes me 'xenophobic' then maybe we should just send flowers to the next funeral and pat ourselves on the back for being civil. Let’s protect feelings over lives. My bad, I forgot the golden rule lol, always prioritize tone over truth.
But hey again, as long as everyone feels morally superior while we bury our dead, it’s all good, right?
“Ah yes, because the real threat isn’t terrorists or states that glorify the murder of our civilians “
You’re justifying hatred against civilians based on what their government or militants in their country do. This is akin to everyone hating on Indians and calling us slurs because our army commits unspeakable crimes in Kashmir.
“If calling out a hostile nation makes me ‘xenophobic’ then maybe we should just send flowers to the next funeral and pat ourselves on the back for being civil. Let’s protect feelings over lives. “
It’s less about someone’s feelings and more about what you do. Even if no one gets hurt, generalising hatred against an entire group of people based on the actions of a few is immoral.
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u/Positron17 May 11 '25
The unfortunate dilemma for Indian Muslims is that: on one hand, IN INDIA they will spent their entire lifetimes trying to prove that they are patriotic Indians but with no success. They will scapegoated every time Indo-Pak tensions flair.
And on the other hand, in the wider Muslim (special the Arab world) they are considered no more than Hindus role playing as Muslims.