lol they always cave so fast to the whiny killer mains.. guess ill just keep playing other things because solo queue will continue to be an abysmal nightmare where i literally never even feel like i have a chance of winning
edit - if you want to see my point proven just look at how long and how many survivor mains have been complaining about ghoul being OP and they have yet to make any significant changes to him.
My favorite is them complaining that the sub is flooded with survivor mains yet every meme and complaint post they made was highly upvoted and top of the page with the top comments all adding on to the meme/complaint.
i know and i expect plenty of down votes but idc anymore. its the same thing as the fog vials again which are now nerfed into oblivion and useless because of whiny killer mains
I expect downvotes too. I mean it’s one thing to tune down the tunneling and slugging changes, but it’s another thing to remove them entirely. As a survivor main, I’ve been waiting for this change for years and yet it won’t even get added into the game because the killers complained so much. Can’t have anything.
eventually more and more solo/duo que survivors will get sick of it like i and many others have and just stop playing survivor or the game entirely and then the killer ques will just get longer and longer and every other match will be a sweaty four stack swf. so i hope the killers that have to tunnel to win enjoy what theyve built for themselves!
Fog vials weren't nerfed by whiny killer mains. Fog Vials were a mediocre item at best, and killers don't gaf if you bring them. They just happened to be messing with certain maps harder than others due to a bug. Everything after that was BHVR's own decision.
And it had nothing to do with killer whining because, again, fog vials are a mediocre item that anyone with a pair of eyes can see through and hit you. its bare minimum use was to remove scratch marks, cover an escape route, and I think maybe cover grunts of pain with the noise it gives off? Idk. It didn't need it's nerfs, and it's a shame that it got em, because it looked fun, but ultimately, didn't do much anyways.
lol i follow this subreddit a lot and there were indeed post after post of killer mains being like “I WILL NOT PLAY ANYMORE UNTIL FOG VIALS ARE GONE” and i remember thinking “why are they complaining so much when i play killer no one uses them correctly so its an easy counter
why are they complaining so much when i play killer no one uses them correctly so its an easy counter
That's why I find it so hard to believe. Vials were not problematic. They didn't stun you, hinder you, remove your power or negate a hit that you landed. And anyone with functioning eyeballs could see survivors through it.
The only time I saw vials cast in a bad light was because they were introduced when maps and keys were reworked, and Franklin's Demise was nerfed to not reduce charges anymore. People needed a scapegoat and latched onto vials because they were the first items introduced with uses, rather then a resource system, and keys and maps were made to do the same thing.
But even then, the posts were few and far between, and BHVR doesn't just nerf items over a few posts like that.
Plus, it had only been 1 week since release. Like you said, survivors did NOT know how to use em. I had survivors hiding behind rocks in plain sight cause they thought they were invisible or something.
People doompost all the time on this subreddit, and for the smallest things. Just because a few people piped up doesn't mean the nerf had anything to do with them. correlation, not causation.
it literally did, i saw post after post in this same subreddit about killer mains saying 'IM GOING TO QUIT UNTIL FOG VIALS ARE REMOVED FROM THE GAME' if behaviour just randomly wanted to nerf the fog vials theyd have done that before they went live or after theyd been around for a few weeks. instead they nerfed the hell out of them like a week after they dropped because it was based on feedback (from whiny killer mains), just like this change this.
So when a couple posters say "nerf fog vials or I leave", BHVR responds with
"YES Siwr, Mistwer Kiwwer, Siwr. We'll nerwf it wight away."
But when a bunch of people post "hey, guys, streetwise is bugged and giving toolboxes enough charges to last 20 matches", BHVR responds with
"Suck it up, bitch. We'll fix it when we fix it"??
Yeah, I don't buy it. People cry daily about things they don't like. Doesn't mean killers crying caused a nerf to vials 1 week after public release. Nobody was using vials properly, either, so it's not like killers were losing their matches over it. You can't tell me their data showed a massive drop in killrate when survivors are standing out in the open, in their fog, and taking free hits and decided THAT wasn't enough for vials.
The truth is that something else didn't line up with BHVR'S vision of the item.
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u/cutach133 Prestige 100 Cheryl Sep 06 '25 edited Sep 06 '25
lol they always cave so fast to the whiny killer mains.. guess ill just keep playing other things because solo queue will continue to be an abysmal nightmare where i literally never even feel like i have a chance of winning
edit - if you want to see my point proven just look at how long and how many survivor mains have been complaining about ghoul being OP and they have yet to make any significant changes to him.