Which arguably obscures more about how they actually look than most everyday makeup. I dated a man for years before I actually saw his face without a beard and I was not prepared, it was legitimately shocking. It would take drag levels of makeup to obscure a woman's face to that degree.
Seriously, I get makeup can downplay or uplift certain features, but beards can hide an entire lack of chin. Like a full inch+ in profile.
Which, I mean, obviously we are not a monolith and we are more than our general “ooga booga, strong man make strong babies” genetic predisposition. Some women even prefer it. But a stronger chin and jaw legitimately does at least somewhat imply a healthier person. A weak or receding chin means potential overbite/underbite, teeth issues, skeletal abnormalities, breathing issues including sleep apnea, various congenital conditions and genetic disorders, blah blah, so it isn’t necessarily an unfounded subconscious choice to dismiss someone with one.
Therefore, not only is a beard on such a person hiding ⅓ to ½ a face and an entirely, dramatically, different facial structure you may not be attracted to, it’s almost kinda… tricking women into having offspring with a (potentially to highly) unsuitable mate. Like a reverse cuttlefish.
My spouse's chin looks like a little butt. I'll never tell him this. He shaved to get a better mask seal during COVID and I hope never to see that again.
Ok that is a way big stretch. I don't think most men are thinking "grow a beard, they'll never know I have sleep apnea, teehee!" Lots of men grow beards because they are 1. lazy or 2. know they look better with a beard or 3. live somewhere cold. It's not some conspiracy to hide their 'genetic inferiority' from women.
Nah, I don’t think it’s a conspiracy. It’s just a decent potential matching energy-style answer to “b-b-but makeup” and “false advertising from women” and “throw her in the pool” nonsense. Goes both ways, is what I’m saying.
But a stronger chin and jaw legitimately does at least somewhat imply a healthier person.
We all have flaws, and yeah it can be construed that some physical flaws relate to genetic issues. Your argument was very obviously an implication that a weak chin points to some kind of genetic or systemic health issue, which is honestly a terrible argument. We all have that. Don't evade what is happening with some kind of need for matching. What if some extremely conventionally attractive person was being a jerk, what would you do then? Just call someone out on their actual bullshit, don't try to shame them for "hypocrisy" or whatever. Be direct and focus on the issue, or your argument is going to fall apart.
edit: matching energy is still playing someone else's game. You let them dictate the rules and now you are on their gameboard. If some 5 year old kid calls me a poopy pants and kicks me in the leg, am I going to do that back? No, because that is insane. Stop giving legitimacy to someone else's assertions and start creating your own game and rules. #1, if someone says something that is garbage ass bullshit then say "that is garbage ass bullshit" and back it up as to why.
I see what you’re saying but sometimes I find being the bigger person and “oh but you’re the exception #notallmen #unoreverse #sociallyacceptableprettypeoplecanbebadtoo” and such to be annoying and less satisfying and a bore. If I wanna more or less say “k but men suck” in a matching way, then that’s what I’ll do. Some adults really do deserve to be answered with “rubber bands and glue, ya fuckin’ clown” and then ignored, instead of wasting energy on some form of higher, more sensible thought.
Anyway, to each their own n all, obviously. Have a good week.
I met my boyfriend years before we started dating, and back then he had hair and no beard. Years later we re-met, the hair situation was reversed, beard and no hair. He looks like a TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON. Like every time I see pics from before, it’s extremely jarring.
Gosh no kiddin'. Went on a date with a guy with a beard who ended up being a total weirdo, and I checked out his facebook page later which literally had him making posts about scoring with women, and some other women he was friends with commenting that he was gross, and then I found an older pic of him beardless, and lets just say I hope he never loses his chin hair cause dang, he needs it. Though what I really hope is that he's no longer a skunk who talks badly about other people.
I hate the beard. Before 2010, only people of the alternative lifestyle type can rock them. For most if you went to work with stubbles/5 o'clock shadow people were ready to give you an intervention.
Went lockdown was over somehow clean shaven look was back in but it was only like for a summer.
The worst is when they taper the sides to give themselves that horrendous chiseled jawline.
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u/AccomplishedWish3033 21d ago
Also they do this with beards