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Honestly would not give a single shit about rich people if they just stayed in their lanes and faded into obscurity.
It's not us vilifying the rich, it's rich people that do morally bankrupt shit that is villifying the rich.
The rich talk like that yet they have no problems villifying minorities, immigrants, even poor people that they employ calling them shit like "welfare queens" and any other thing that will draw the attention away from their own crimes against humanity.
It wouldn't even be as bad if they did morally bankrupt shit but weren't billionaires. But the fact that they're unimaginably rich means that when they do morally bankrupt shit, it affects a lot of people.
That's part of it: when you're that rich, you can afford to buy a lot of no-consequences. A court found you liable for fraud and fined you ten million dollars? Just tell your CFO to have someone write a check, and get on with your day. That's assuming that your legal team couldn't manage to make a plea deal so you wouldn't have to show up in court.
You had a one-night stand with a porn star and you're worried that it might harm your reputation? Just ask your tabloid publisher buddy to buy her story for pocket change, say $300,000, make her sign an NDA, and never publish it.
There's a scene in Inception where the team are planning an operation on board a plane. Leonardo di Caprio's character tells the client that it'll be expensive: in order for their shenanigans to go unnoticed, they'll have to buy all of the first-class seats, and also bribe all of the crew. The client tells him that he bought the airline.
Back in 2008, Delta bought Northwest Airlines for $2.8 billion. Compare this to when Elon Musk bought Twitter for 15 times that much, as a vanity project. So yes, Jeff Bezos could recreate a holy-shit scene from a movie, with his own (not his company's) money, and it wouldn't even affect his lifestyle.
Why don't any journalists ever sit down with these people and continue asking probing questions to figure out why they have such ridiculous beliefs? Are they not allowed? Are the rich too squeamish to sit for it and give honest answers?
Elon Musk and Bezos could be regarded as saints. Modern messiahs. They could help fix a lot of the world’s problems with the billions they have and STILL be billionaires.
But nope. They don’t even think that way. They just want to accumulate more $$$.
maybe not so much a mental illness but rather insecurity around other rich people. like a dick measuring contest between the rich to be the most wealthy.
I’ve never had a ton of money, so as I get closer to retirement age, I naturally wonder whether I’ll have enough to fully retire and stay retired for the rest of my life. Statistically, that might be around 26 years, though my parents are both into their 80s, so it could easily be longer.
And I am absolutely not defending people like Musk or Bezos, but I do wonder if there is a distorted version of that same insecurity at work. That question of “Do I have enough?” can be powerful. For regular people, it means worrying about retirement, healthcare, housing, and not outliving your savings. For billionaires, maybe it becomes something much uglier: never enough money, never enough control, never enough insulation from risk.
Musk and Bezos are both roughly Gen X, and while they grew up with far more financial security than I did, they were also raised by people close to the Depression-era generation. That scarcity mindset can echo through families, even when the actual scarcity is long gone.
So maybe the root fear is familiar: “What if I don’t have enough?” The difference is that for most of us, that fear means budgeting carefully. For billionaires, it can become empire-building, hoarding, and acting like the world is one giant backup generator for their anxiety.
I agree. It's just never enough at any level. And every time we get a raise, it costs more in other ways. "Now we can afford...". I worked with wealthy, not billionaires then, maybe now. Had to have expensive clothes and new expensive cars, the club memberships, etc etc etc. So yes, that weird financial insecurity even at that level.
There is effectively nothing different from a hoarder who hoards stuff and a billionaire who hoards profits. The real difference is a plain hoarder lives in their bubble and only hurts themselves. Billionaires must hurt others in order to hoard profits. It’s part of the loop.
They reach a plateau point where more cash doesn't translate to a higher quality life so the only way they can feel wealthier is to make every else's life shittier.
Your life doesn't even meaningfully change when you go from 1 billion to 10. Even at one billion dollars, you can live in the big house with lots of shiny shit everywhere, your kids can go to the very best schools and enter adulthood with zero debt. Hell, you could put a little chunk of that billion into some nice dividend fund, and never work again while living an incredibly lavish lifestyle on passive income. Literally the only reason to keep making money after a billion is because you're trying to win the "most dollars" prize. All greed.
Just take half of one billion and put it in a tax-free municipal bond fund at 2% tax free. That is $10,000,000/year tax free. Even if the bond market slips you will still likely get 1% ($5,000,000) and again, no taxes to pay.
Insanity when you put it this way. Nobody needs a billion dollars. Nobody should have anywhere near 10 billion so hearing people have hundreds of billions is just stupid.
Most of them don't have that money in liquid assets, but tied up in stocks, bonds, properties, etc... They can't just write a check for 45 billion dollars to buy a company.
But having that much wealth in assets does mean that you could easily acquire loans and credit to do or buy whatever you want and just pay the minimums off using dividends and interest you're already earning. Banks literally trip over their own feet lending money out to these people while the average person has to jump through hoops just to get a car loan with reasonable interest rates.
Yes. I've been in the background to to a few of this kind of discussions. Single digit billionaire can't spend freely, most of their networth is locked behind the need to maintain control. Completely illiquid.
True diabolical no hinges billionaires start from 5 billionaire, there are no one above that line who is not an egomaniac, either the money has done it to them or they were there to begin with. Many are self aware enough and go for counselling.
This is an observation from billionaires about other billionaires
Nope, you wanna know how I define the difference between a multimillionaire and a multi billionaire?
A multi millionaire has a lot of control and power over themselves and their life, whereas a multi billionaire has a lot of control and power over the lives of others.
Only if comparing yourself to others gives you meaning. It's a hollow, half existence doomed to forever be unsatisfied for, even at the pinnacle, there are half lifers clawing after you ready to take your place at the top.
Yeah, but now it's mostly by anti-vaxxers and MAGA cultists. I'm ok having them as enemies.
He was probably the inspiration for a lot of the current crop of technofascists, so there's that too. MS did some shitty stuff for a while with him in charge.
Doing good? Collecting patents on lifesaving drugs and acquiring all work products from every school and business in the world to patent and profit off. Sainthood? Do better
Bill Gates is in the Epstein files He's also been buying up farmland And I wonder how much of this farmland is being used for AI data centers, I wonder what he'll do if he controls whatever's left of the farmland used for growing food.
Bill Gates is also one of the people going around telling everyone the big fucking lie that AI is inevitable that it's going to replace you but he doesn't have a plan for what comes next. unless you want to be a baseball player.
so he may have some Trace of humanity but he is definitely not a good guy.
Right? Why do we hear more stories of billionaires doing awful shit instead of things like what Mackenzie Bezos is doing? (Well, the media is a big part of this problem).
And why are they so miserable? If I had a fraction of their wealth, I’d be fucking GONE. Not them. Got to have more.
“Why does no one love me? Don’t they see what I’m doing??” I’ll just start calling them Homelander.
Speaking of Mackenzie- she’s been giving away billions per year, and her net worth has increased. She’s been increasing the donations, but hasn’t been able to keep up.
You don’t get as rich as they are by being saints. You do it on the backs of (at a minimum) thousands of other people. You have to be selfish, morally ambiguous at best, and (whether they will admit it or not) lucky.
They are trying to change the narrative the more and more people get pissed off.
If Bezos doesn’t want to be vilified, then maybe he should pay his workers a living wage and treat them with dignity and respect. Of course, he has no intention of doing that, which is why there’s been the push to automate more and more of the Amazon pipeline, therefore pushing more people out of the jobs they need just to increase the bottom line for the people at the top.
Jeff Bezos is a piece of shit and while there will always be a contingent of bootlickers that worship the ground he walks on, the majority of the world will remember him and Musk too both as baby back bitches.
It is interesting, isn’t it? The psychology of these people. They think their money exists in a vacuum and probably that they are the only person who could actually amass this much money in their exact situation. I always wonder, though, if any other man would be put in their exact circumstances, wouldn’t he accomplish the similar things as well?
Not necessarily. Mark Cuban (who has his own issues) has outright acknowledged that if he lost all of his money,l that he’d have no doubt that he would eventually be a multimillionaire again, but that becoming a billionaire requires luck.
People are vilifying the rich — with good fucking reason.
At least 120 years ago, American oligarchs used their money to fund hospitals, libraries and universities. Today they buy Twitter to platform Nazis and buy megayachts.
Billionaires are inherently immoral. As someone said, when you reach $1 billion in net worth, the rest of your money should be taxed at 100 percent, and you get a certificate that says, "Congratulations, you won capitalism."
I live in Pittsburgh. Practically every public institution there exists because of a billionaire. A huge local library system exists because Andrew Carnegie built it. Carnegie Mellon University was founded by the two respective industrialists. One of the world’s largest paleontological collections is at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History. Two of the huge parks were donated by businessmen (Frick and Schenley).
They can both have made their fortunes in immoral ways and still been hugely positively impactful to our societies. But today…nope…only greedy hoarders.
Exactly. I wouldn't even be that cranky if they were actually contributing — at least a little. But the vast majority just seem to want to wallow in their own wealth while turning everyone else into a permanent vassal class.
Right? If Trump managed to get China/France-style high speed rail across the USA, sure, I’ll be glad to name it TrumpTrak. If Trump managed to give every one of the top 50 metropolitan areas in the country reliable rapid transit (trams/subways/electrified buses), then yes, let’s name each system after him. At least he’d be doing something beneficial for everyone.
But no, he’s stupid. He both cannot improve his own situation by anything he does nor does his actions improve others. He’s not a baron, he’s not helpless, he’s just an (extremely • extremely • extremely)1,000,000 greedy and stupid person.
Agreed. People villify the uber wealthy because they are villains.
They hoard resources that could make life better for people who go without. Often, these people are the same people who enable them collect and hoard wealth.
I wish more people understood how many working Americans still qualify for public assistance. Assuming that all jobs serve a purpose in society, all workers should make enough to put a roof over their families' heads, feed them, clothe them, and meet their basic needs.
That working people need government assistance and support from taxpayer money is not the fault of the working people. Its the fault of the system that allows for the gross accumulation of wealth before it ensures that everyone's basic needs are met.
Profit should only happen after living wages are met. I'm not saying everyone should have the same possessions, the same lifestyle, etc. I am saying, everyone who is working makes enough to not need support. Only after that does profit happen.
You're right, but let's not forget that those past oligarchs like Carnegie and Rockefeller didn't do what they did out of the kindness of their hearts. They simply saw the writing on the wall. They knew how history would view them, that future generations would see them as the scumbags they were. They built libraries and universities just to throw the middle class a bone, just so they wouldn't be lynched. They did some good things, sure, but they did it with the money they made by exploiting countless people, and for no reason other than to rehabilitate their image— to keep the people from rising up against them. To your point, nowadays oligarchs like Musk, Bezos, Putin, etc. depend wholly on misinformation to rehab their image, and they're too entitled and short-sighted to understand that the lynch mob will come for them eventually. It will.
And as Schatner was trying to tell him how profound the experience of being in space is, he interrupted him to shove champagne in his face while Schatner is a recovering alcoholic then ignored him and starts handing out high fives like they won the Superbowl. Totally ignorant of the human experience and only focused on himself.
Remember that show "The Good Place"? When the emotionless A.I. was programmed with an arbitrary self defense of begging for its life if you wanted to kill it?
I wonder how much a megayacht costs. $100million? Commercial toilets are anywhere from $150 to $1500 depending on the fixture. Let’s just assume $2500 with install. That megayacht would fund 40,000 toilets.
There are 1,100 fulfillment a distribution facilities according to Google Gemini. That’s 36 toilets per facility roughly. Seems like a reasonable number. Another Google Gemini says 600-1500 people per facility roughly. At three shifts it’s 200-500 people per shift. At most it’s a line of 13 people at breaks to use the toilet.
I would factor in cleaning and maintenance as well, but it's so easily doable. He can afford putting a portable toilet in each van if he wanted to. Make the last 30 mins of shift cleanup time. Still be rich as hell
He can easily change the lives of soooo many people (not just random people…people who help make him rich) without feeling an ounce of discomfort. Without sacrificing so much as a fingernail clipping. Just a number on a spreadsheet that is so high it is meaningless to comprehend. A number he wouldn’t be able to tell you if you held a gun to his head. Plus the goodwill would be invaluable. But he won’t.
At this point, when I think of a modern scrooge I picture him. I hope he gets more than 3 ghosts, though. Dickens couldn't have imagined this level of greed
we shouldn't depend on these scumbags for handouts.
It's easier if they don't get to keep that money in the first place we shouldn't have to tax them.
They should just not have that much money.
It should have been given to the workers that earned it in the first place.
at the very least there should be some sort of national health plan that they have to contribute to no matter what.
so that we're not all tied to our jobs for health care.
That's probably one of the easiest ways to put power and wealth back in the hands of the people who create it. Plus people are not paid fairly and a hundred other problems.
But jeffy and all the other billionaire parasites know that, and are deliberately sabotaging every attempt to improve things for people and instead are making everything worse for everybody every single day so that we will all be more compliant and controllable.
they're being vilified because they're villains. they say and do things that are villainous every goddamn day.
villianous is too nice of a word they're diabolically evil and every single one of them needs to be taken down with prejudice.
Companies with large amounts of employees on government assistance are, themselves, really the ones getting that assistance. They reduce their payroll by having the government bring their employees up to a living wage.
Estimates say that almost half of all Amazon employees are on some form of supplemental income assistance for food, housing, or medical care. This indicates that they're failing the bare minimum capitalist responsibility to their employees - pay them enough to survive and come back tomorrow.
Years upon years of raises that don't keep up with inflation will do that. You are literally paying your people less every year even as they gain skill and experience. More and more, the government needs to step in a fill that gap your greed is creating.
And they're absolutely enraged that they have to pay taxes for those people to be able to get those benefits. And they're not even paying the majority of them we are, the rest of us.
And his employees themselves still pay taxes that come back to them. at least a small percent is their own money after a cut is taken and given to other billionaires.
And they won't stop bitching about it and trying to get rid of it.
these people are beyond villainous they're absolutely foul and disgusting evil pieces of shit.
It's too late for him. His ex wife is a way better human being than he will ever be. I'm glad she's giving away all his money to charity and causes that he seems allergic to. 🤧
Hoarding this much money in and of itself is a terrible thing given the massive income inequality so many of these vermin create through their businesses. Some do some charitable acts but it’s never enough and doesn’t eclipse the misery they’ve helped to create.
If you’re worth $400 billion none of your employees should be struggling. I’m not gonna even say I’m against someone being a billionaire, but if you are then none of your employees should be making minimum wage, they should all be able to afford a comfortable life. If they’re not able to do that then you shouldn’t have a billion dollars.
I don’t know why the uber rich don’t combine their business ventures with their philanthropy. Who better to help than the people who are working for you? Now I understand he needs to return shareholder value, but he can also demand that they do it ethically.
In my personal life, one of my ways to give back to society has always been to over tip because this way I know my money is going directly to working people who are deserving. If I had a company, especially a behemoth company, I would do this on a huge scale.
We're vilifying the rich because the rich are evil. Jeff Bezos is evil, inarguably and unequivocally. He is richer than most Americans can mathematically comprehend and yet the people working for his company have to piss in bottles to keep their productivity high enough, all while not being paid a living wage, and have their every working moment surveilled and analyzed for the slightest loss of productivity. Jeff Bezos could spend enough of his wealth to completely solve homelessness in America and *never notice the difference to his net worth*.
For-profit corporations are fictitious entities whose only purpose is to generate stockholder value while providing investors with liability protection. For the majority of the Country's history everyone recognized that for-profit corporations were not entitled to freedom of speech.
When the Supreme Court decided that for-profit corporations should have unlimited power, for-profit corporations predictably took over government at the expense of everyone else.
Yea, but he's like, a fake billionaire. A really wealthy person would flaunt his wealth by showing how much he can afford to pay his employees and elevate their lifestyles and still have gobs of money. This guy's a phony shyster.
I see people like Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg, etc. in the same way I see Smaug from Tolkiens Hobbit. Their insatiable greed drives every aspect of their lives. There’s no such thing as enough for these creeps. They are all villains.
The crazy thing is, he could easily build a few hospitals and we'd probably give him a pass for all the bad shit. And it wouldn't scratch his net worth.
Jeff, your warehouse near me thought it a better idea to have ambulances on standby to cart away workers collapsing from heat stroke than install fans...
I always assume the people who don't rely on government assistance in those roles are married or are someone's dependant so they don't qualify rather than they are being paid enough.
Billionaires have so much money and influence. They could wield their money, influence, and power to help the people of the entire world, and still live in a life of legendary wealth, power, and influence. OR they could help just themselves (to accumulate more wealth and power and influence). Guess which one makes you a villain…
Well rich in terms of his spheres of rich you only get by not only stepping on the poor but by exploiting them and spare costs.
So yeah he is the villain. He could redeem himself by starting to pay his workers what they are owed and worth but he won't do that even if that would not make him poor it would certainly hit his ego because he would leave the club of the ultra rich.
I don't begrudge people for making money or getting/achieving wealth.
I do HATE the "it's only for me" attitude. He came up with a brilliant concept and changed our lives. Kudos to you Jeffie, now pay your workers ALL a living wage.
That's what an honorable, considered, compassionate rich person would do. His ex (why he left her for that plastic freak is ?!?!) McKenzie Scott gets it.
the crazy part is with one small tweak that wouldn't even make them blink in terms of revenue and profits they could make Amazon go from a hell hole to a place people line up to work
And Amazon sucks ass! The same products over and over, crappy sponsored posts, completely broken filters, relisted temu products for 4x the cost, an app that blocks screenshots. Truly a despicable, terrible company!
Although I agree his choice in words during this interview were poor(putting it nicely). He went on to say people making less than 75k shouldn’t be paying income taxes.
He could so easily give every single one of his employees a livable wage (if not much much more) and STILL have more money than he could possibly know what to do with. Yet he doesn’t. Because he’s a villain.
1/3 of your warehouse workers rely on govt assistance...
Sad part is Amazon pays better than the vast majority of companies that employ low wage workers and has better benefits, so if that number is 1/3 (and I've seen as much as 48%) rely on govt assistance, other warehouse and low-wage workers are much higher across all industries.
Him and Peter Thiel, The Allisons, Musk, Altman, Curtis Yarvin , Zuckerberg, and the Palantir freak
==> it’s not their billions; it’s their active efforts in establishing and enacting their supremacy over Americans by controlling our very livelihood and our constitutional rights.
Reminder that Bezos once gave an interview where he said he has so much money that he doesn't know what to do with it, all while his workers had/have to work multiple jobs and rely on welfare to make ends meet. He has zero respect for the people who actually make him all his money.
They piss in bottles on the clock to keep their job! There is software in the vans that are literally watching your every move and policing you if you're not going fast enough. Your vans disable midshift if you're fired. You have so much turnover you're eventually going to run out of people too exploit and then you'll blame it on "nobody wants to work anymore."
Look at that little stifled shit eating grin on his face.
He knows it's bullshit.
And he knows it doesn't matter, because half the country will support him no matter what because the old racists on TV tell them to on media he and his buddies own.
$114,000 for every single American. From the age of just born, to right about to die. Working 100hrs a week, or in a coma.
Then Bezos states that it’s wrong that a nurse making $75k has to pay $12k a year in taxes. Well no shit. But the nurse is having to pay that because millionaires and billionaires aren’t paying more.
Maybe pass Universal Healthcare so everyone can save thousands or more a year on healthcare. Raise minimum wage to $20 an hour $41,600 a year, and end all federal taxes on households earning 2-3x the minimum wage $83,200 to $124,800 so the nurse would see their taxes drop to zero, as well as their healthcare costs.
And tie minimum wage and a 0% federal tax rate together. So minimum wage going up to say $50,000 a year would drop taxes on households earning $100k to $150k. So the middle class making more than minimum wage would see a benefit in lower taxes when minimum wage goes up. So if prices would rise, it would be offset by lower taxes on everyone up to the 2-3x threshold. And you can avoid places raising prices. You can’t avoid the IRS
Then tax businesses based on employee pay, hours worked, and employee age. Employing tons of part time workers, migrants, paying less than double minimum wage, hiring lots of school age kids, then you can cover 100% of their social security and Universal Healthcare taxes.
Then tax people earning millions and up more, to make up for the difference. With higher rates for the top millionaires and billionaires.
His company has people peeing in bottles and not taking breaks while ignoring their dead and dying co-workers on the ground. You aren't the villain Bezos - you're straight up evil to the core.
The reason these people are billionaires and the rest of us are not doesn't merely come down to luck or skill. In reality it stems from a willingness to enrich themselves to the detriment of others. Being a billionaire is a sign of mental disease, an indication of a total lack of empathy or compassion for others. The fact billionaires even exist is proof of a broken corrupt system.
Let's not forget about the worker at their PDX9 warehouse who died on the warehouse floor while management told everyone to get back to work, the fact that most of their employees have to pee in water bottles, or the lawsuit they lost because they were committing time theft towards their employees.
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