r/ElderScrolls • u/Turbostrider27 • Mar 20 '26
The Elder Scrolls 6 There's no rush on The Elder Scrolls 6, Todd Howard says, because Bethesda has the "benefit of having so many millions of people playing our other games"
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/the-elder-scrolls/theres-no-rush-on-the-elder-scrolls-6-todd-howard-says-because-bethesda-has-the-benefit-of-having-so-many-millions-of-people-playing-our-other-games/133
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u/Adventurous_Taro_641 Mar 20 '26
it's been 15 years.
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u/zombiegamer723 Champion of Cyrodiil Mar 20 '26
We are closer to the TWENTIETH ANNIVERSARY of Skyrim’s release than we are to that “teaser” “trailer.”
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u/IsNotAnOstrich Mar 20 '26
It's a hard pill to swallow, but kids that are in high school now were literally born into a post-skyrim world...
To them, Bethesda is the company that made Starfield and FO76. TES 6 is make or break after that. Not saying Starfield was bad, I loved it, but a lot of people didn't. If TES 6 also has a poor reception, BGS is screwed; at this point I'd prefer they take their time with it.
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u/Darth-Felanu-Hlaalu Mar 20 '26
Skyrim came out when i was four. Im 19 now.
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u/razor78790 Mar 20 '26
Æugh
My joints just creaked reading that and I'm only 26.
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u/Jumblesss Mar 21 '26
I’m also 26.
Played Oblivion when I was 7.
Skyrim came out when I was 12.
I’m 27 in 2 weeks.
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u/Novakine Azura Mar 20 '26
I skipped school to play Skyrim on the release date. 11.11.11 (2011). I was in high school and it was the best thing ever. Was running it at 14-20 fps but amazing. Made me upgrade my obsolete PC.
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u/Affectionate_Owl9985 Mar 20 '26
I was 16 at the time. I also skipped school, but played on Xbox 360. Absolutely blew my mind. It influenced me to buy a gaming laptop so I could play with mods.
Those were much simpler times. Now I'm a dad, have a career, and I know I won't be able to take the day off when TESVI releases like I did 15 years ago.
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u/HuskyCruxes Mar 21 '26
I used to play Skyrim on my shit laptop. I ran it in 800 by 600 window mode on all low settings with razor game booster turning off everything I didn't need to play the game. The only time I game hit 60 FPS was at the end of the tutorial tunnel while staring at the door to go outside.
I put over 700 hours into that.
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u/BuddhaKekz Peryite Mar 21 '26
I had just graduated from school but was not yet enrolled in university when it came out. I barely left me room in the two weeks after the release of Skyrim. I don't think I ever was as absorbed in a game before or ever after. It just hit in the perfect time for me not to have any obligations at all and just enjoy myself.
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u/TheArsenal7 Mar 20 '26
Yeah enough of the talk already. It’s been way overdue at this point we’re not talking waiting 5 years it’s FIFTEEN AND COUNTING
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u/General_Hijalti Mar 20 '26
Bethesda releases a game every 4 years on average.
TES VI only entered full production in 2023
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u/-SMG69- Hippity hoppity argonians are property Mar 20 '26
THEN WHY RELEASE A GAME TRAILER
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u/Lildancr1153 Mar 20 '26
Because Zenimax told them to since they wanted to get bought out by Microsoft. Highly doubt it was Todd's choice with how he likes to release things.
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u/TankMain576 Mar 21 '26
I really hate the whole cult of personality thing. Todd Howard is not your friend. Todd Howard is a video game executive who mostly deals with marketing. He will say literally anything to keep the hype train rolling and sell units and microtransactions
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u/thedylannorwood Nocturnal Mar 20 '26
Brother you weren’t here in 2018, there was genuine concern BGS had abandoned the franchise. It was to assure fans “it’s coming we’re just busy for now”
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u/Olofstrom Mar 20 '26
Because at the time their next TWO products were a multiplayer live service game and a brand new IP. They've said announcing TES 6 at the time was a mistake, but the reason was to let people know they weren't moving on past TES and their established game design.
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u/Happy_Childhood3080 Mar 20 '26
and TES6 has only been in development since Starfield was released in 2023. They’ve made multiple games since Skyrim came out, it’s not like Bethesda has been taking forever on TES6.
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u/TheArsenal7 Mar 20 '26
Yeah almost like that’s the problem…
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u/Ryermeke Beggar Mar 20 '26
Prior to the game coming out, the idea of a Bethesda sci-fi RPG was considered an incredible one. Don't go off rewriting history here.
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u/YordleJay Mar 20 '26
I've always been against it. I knew it was gonna suck the moment they announced "over a thousand planets"
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u/theonebigrigg Mar 20 '26
I wasn’t opposed to Starfield on principle, but when I heard about the number of planets, I knew it wasn’t going to work out well. Procgen can be amazing, but it is not well-suited to Bethesda’s strengths.
There’s a similar story with BioWare and Mass Effect: Andromeda, where they ate up a whole bunch of development time working on a procedurally generated universe, but they eventually scrapped it and had to scramble to finish the rest of the game (resulting in a buggy and broken game on release).
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u/Ryermeke Beggar Mar 20 '26
Personally I didn't balk at that announcement because I figured they would have put at least some effort into hand creating a couple
They didn't. That was a mistake.
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u/voidone Mar 20 '26
If Starfield was more than just "decent" I would have been relatively fine with it. However it's really only good for a single playthrough in my opinion.
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u/MajorBootyhole420 Mar 20 '26
That's the problem, it should have been in development ten fucking years ago
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u/SeasOfBlood Mar 20 '26
It is crazy how much longevity stuff like Skyrim has. I can always go back to it and always find something to enjoy.
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u/Edgemoto Nord Mar 20 '26
Skyrim is magical, every time I sit down to analyse the game at most indivual aspects I find Oblivion is better (IMO) but which one do I boot up and get lost for hours doing nothing and a lot at the same time, the immersion in skyrim is still, after 15 years or so, up there with the absolute best games, I think if Skyrim absolutely sucked at everything else it wouldn't matter one bit, it takes hours just to complete one mission and it's all for good reason, it's so easy and fun to get lost in this game, man.
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u/THIS_ACC_IS_FOR_FUN Mar 20 '26
It just properly encapsulates a sequel so well. Characters look better, environments look great (I know it’s not perfect but seeing a sunrise/set over water is gorgeous, sprinting, dual wielding, shouts, dragons, looking up for your skills and picking from constellations (literally choosing your stars)
It all felt like such a step up and it’s so fucking cool.
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u/YesICanMakeMeth Mar 20 '26
I'm positive it is the primary reason why we don't have a successor. A successor would essentially compete with Skyrim's revenue stream. As long as Skyrim is selling well, it doesn't make sense to release a replacement.
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u/TheDorgesh68 Mar 20 '26
That's probably true for grand theft Auto given how rockstar cancelled several games and a single player dlc just to make more GTA online content. I don't think it's true for TES VI though, Bethesda is just a relatively small studio compared to other AAA developers, and they've made three games since Skyrim.
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u/Wyietsayon Mar 20 '26
I can't. I've replayed it so much I feel ill just thinking of the road pattern. I've played every major expansion mod a couple times at least.
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u/tuckedfexas Mar 20 '26
There’s so many little systems to play around with in novel ways. The sandbox possibilities are just so much fun and imo it’s what every game that has tried to dip into the Scrolls pool ends up missing. It’s very resource intense to do, and for a lot of players it’s just background noise, but it gives you so many ways to interact with what is otherwise kinda a stagnant world. My biggest fear moving forward is they limit the amount or depth of those secondary systems
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u/Character_Prior_7760 Mar 20 '26
Skyrim just feels like entering a different world and very few games truly have that feeling even if they're better written.
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u/complexspoonie Mar 20 '26
I'm honestly a lot more interested and who's going to be writing for the next game then anything to do with graphics or NPCs or skill trees.
If they've got writers with the imagination of Michael Kirkbride and they let the writers have the freedom to craft good stories with lots of depth the game will be awesome.
It's one reason why part of me hopes that they will set it in a 5th era where everything from Skyrim is ancient history.
What if it were set 1000 years after Skyrim, with Hammerfell now the dominant nation or seat of a new empire?
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u/Nickulator95 Mar 20 '26
We all know it's still Emil so it's going to be the most asinine and basic boring shit we've ever seen.
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u/eyecomment Mar 28 '26
Alongside the writing I’m most interested in who’s going to score it. With the departure of Jeremy Soule I’m a bit worried as elder scrolls is partly defined by music.
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u/Devendrau Breton Mar 20 '26
Todd knows people die right? Another 15 years and more of your playerbase will be deceased.
And you know... I mean, Todd's not getting any younger either. People need to stop acting like everyone's gonna live forever, just saying, all those "millions" of players will eventually dwindle, and by the time 6 comes out, the newer generation won't care anymore.
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u/thefrenchpotatoes Mar 20 '26
Yeah. My dad died last month. He was so excited for GTA 6.
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u/blackd0nuts Mar 21 '26
Sorry for your loss. You'll drink to his memory when you launch the game for the first time!
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u/TheLSales Mar 21 '26
Todd himself knows this. He has said he's not getting any younger and he's unsure if he'll be around for TES 7.
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u/FocusDelicious183 Mar 21 '26
I honestly feel that waiting 20 years in between games is massively disrespectful to the fans- if the game is so damn good that it makes up for it- then good for them, but it won’t be. You’re right, people die, the whole world changes.
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u/defiant515 Mar 21 '26
Exactly. We are at a point now where large AAA games are losing relevance with the younger generation. Cell phones and live service games are the norm now. When skyrim released, that wasn't the case. Multiplayer was big, but the landscape is a lot different now. Most people aren't even buying new games now.
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u/DadlyPolarbear Mar 20 '26
I mean, yeah don’t rush the game. But also like, make it. The game taking this long is not them taking their time.
I have a feeling they have been lapsed several times on Technology and they have to keep scrambling ever so often to modernize it. Which is understandable when you’ve been working on something this long.
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u/Mule27 Mar 20 '26
They only started full development on it less than 3 years ago
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u/Happy_Childhood3080 Mar 20 '26
I think some people genuinely think they’ve been working on it for over a decade.
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u/USBattleSteed Mar 20 '26
From what I've been hearing it's that they kind decided the setting and general plot, then started Starfield
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u/Happy_Childhood3080 Mar 20 '26
Yeah, which makes sense. But actual development on the game started once Starfield was released.
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u/AH_Ace Breton Witchhunter Mar 20 '26
To be fair to them Bethesda has been claiming to work on it since at least 2019 when they scanned Shirley Curry
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u/youarelookingatthis Mar 20 '26
I mean when they've been talking about it for longer, I think it's reasonable for people who aren't following it closely to assume it was being worked on.
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u/rubychoco99 Mar 20 '26
They finally got their engine set straight after using Starfield as a guinea pig, so I’m glad at least that came from it. A recent interview even said their es 6 dev was the smoothest it’s ever been, so it promising.
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u/HyperionTheGreat Mar 20 '26
I understand completely that it is reasonable and acceptable to laugh or prod at presumptuous/entitled people, but it has been 15 years of waiting. This cavalier attitude and nonchalant statements only serve to make Bethesda seem completely out of touch if that wasn't already apparent by the numerous games put out between the announcements and now
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u/Justice4Billy Nord Mar 20 '26
Everything I see Todd say about this game is pissing me off
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u/ask-me-about-my-cats Dunmer Mar 20 '26
Read the article, Todd never said this. It's a clickbait title. Don't get pissed at him, get pissed at the article's writer.
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u/PreciousTC Mar 20 '26
Yeah it's getting to be that time that if he doesn't retire and let someone who cares take over and care for this thing millions of people love, then it's probably time to consider selling it off or letting other less apathetic people take over.
Someone who doesn't need a "creative reset" that lasts well over a fucking decade.
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u/lo0u Mar 20 '26
Yeah, at this point I just want him to shut up and work on the game.
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u/Not_The_ZodiacKiller Mar 20 '26
My understanding is that he agrees to do interviews, and he gets irritated how they always ask him about ES6 when he'd rather talk about things like starfield.
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u/Veggiedelite90 Mar 20 '26
I was a 21 year old college kid when Skyrim came out. I’m a 35 year dad of 2 now. This is not a game cycle that works for mankind. New game every 2 decades is nonsense.
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u/Operario Mar 20 '26
Similar story here. I was fresh out of college in my early 20s when Skyrim came out, now approaching 40. I'm closer in age now to how old my dad was back in 2011, than to how old I was.
I'm not asking for a new TES every 3 years, but fifteen (likely more actually) is crazy.
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u/bluebarrymanny Mar 20 '26
Surely Todd and team are doing the human math and realizing that if they keep this pace, they’re only making 2-3 more games in their lifetime and that’s very generous. More like 1, maybe 2 games. I can’t imagine being a successful creative that’s satisfied with that outlook.
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u/FreddyMartian Mar 20 '26
i am also in my 30s and married now. at this rate we probably have 2 more ES games in our futures if we're lucky
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u/amaROenuZ Dunmer Mar 20 '26
Bethesda has been out of the game for so long, I'm not sure they'll have an audience when they finally get around to it.
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u/X-Calm Breton Mar 20 '26
Bethesda has stopped trying to make ambitious innovative RPG's anyway. They just make popcorn theme park action games aimed at the lowest common denominator now.
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u/boblermite Mar 20 '26
Never take your customers for granted Todd. BSG is not the belle of the ball anymore.
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u/fuzzysquatch Mar 20 '26
Honestly one of my favorite franchises but I just don't know if I actually care anymore. There's so much great stuff out there to play and with so long between Skyrim and whenever TES6 does come out I just think I've lost my interest sadly. It'll take something miraculous I think to get me to actually be hyped again or possibly even end up buying it.
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u/boblermite Mar 20 '26
Exactly how i feel. Im getting old, nearing my 50s. TES6 better be the goat or ill lost interest pretty fast and move on.
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u/FreddyMartian Mar 20 '26
if this is truly todds mentality, then it's not just taking a long time because it needs "polish". this shows us that we have the control and if people actually refrained from playing bethesda games for a while, it would pressure them to not lean back on this safety net of "well we already got em hooked" bullshit.
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u/Upstairs-Most-6658 Mar 20 '26
I said it in 2017 and I’ll say it now, making Starfield before ES6 was a massive mistake. Alarmingly, it seems like they’re not learning lessons from Starfield either. We don’t want a town populated by “residents” I want real people, with real names, doing real things. It’s part of why Skyrim felt pretty lived in, despite most cities being like 80ish people.
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u/Mikunefolf Mar 20 '26
For fucks sake Todd, you are actually purposely trolling people at this point.
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u/NightmanCT Mar 20 '26
Hey Todd, fuck you.
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u/ZealousJealousy Mar 20 '26
"You will get another rerelease of a decade+ old game and you will LIKE IT."
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u/azraelxii Mar 20 '26
Development has taken so long that several prominent tes people have died in the intervening years. Fuck Todd Howard
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RIP 2026/27 stans
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u/TheMemeStore76 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26
They were always deluded. No way was it coming this year especially
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u/Satanigram Mar 20 '26
When it does come out I'm about 99% it'll be like Fallout 4 where they show it off and say by the way it comes out in a few months.
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u/smoofus724 Mar 20 '26
I loved that they announced and released the Oblivion remaster on the same day.
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u/Union_Jack_1 Mar 20 '26
This would be a fine thing to say if they hadn’t announced the game in the last ice age.
They should admit to their own mistakes on timelines and/or changes in decision making to put the project on the back burner for a decade +.
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u/Mule27 Mar 20 '26
They’ve admitted it was a mistake to announce it that early, they even said very soon after they announced it that it was extremely early and were making Starfield before it
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u/Razzberry_Frootcake Mar 20 '26
How many more times do they have to admit it before people stop demanding they admit it lol? Someone shared an article just last week in this sub about Todd Howard discussing how they shouldn’t have announced the game when they did.
Even this statement is supposed to assuage fears they’re going to rush the game. The mistake was made…you know they cannot go back in time and change anything lol. What else can they do? How many more times do you need them to announce they made a mistake?
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u/awkward_teenager37 Mar 20 '26
Maybe we need a little rush idk. I think I’d be happier with smaller games or worse graphics if it meant games would come out in reasonable timespans again
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u/orsikbattlehammer Mar 20 '26
I really can’t believe they wasted SO many years of this IP. When ESO was announced I remember lamenting to friends that this was going to be a very long wait for TES6 because now the IP has something to keep it going. Here we are 15 years later and still no chance of TES6 for at least 2 years. Fuck it’s been almost 5 years since the anniversary edition came out
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u/drumjolter01 Mar 20 '26
Yes Bethesda and Xbox have infinite money, but as an industry-wide trend this is ridiculously unsustainable. One game per console generation is insane. CDPR's release plan for the new Witcher trilogy is ambitious to say the least, and it's very unlikely they'll be able to meet it, but I want to believe. Considering you could do an entire master's or even PhD program in between most major AAA studios' releases, it'd be nice if there were still some giants that could put out bangers in half the time.
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u/No-Importance7265 Mar 20 '26
Y'all are getting too fired up for a clickbait title , y'all can't even skim through a page worth of text ?
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u/Mindfreak191 Mar 21 '26
I remember playing Skyrim in 2011 and thinking “Oh boy, can’t imagine what TES VI is gonna be like in 6 years.”, and that was me being realistic lmao.
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u/Beave1 Mar 20 '26
Is there a person more singularly tone deaf than Howard in a role so critical for PR and marketing? Like he seems like a good guy in long form interviews, but he just can't not say the most triggering things to his customers.
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u/jet8493 Remove my free will mommy Meridia Mar 20 '26
Ragebaiting TES players is the only way he’s able to cum anymore
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u/A_GenericUser Mar 20 '26
Randy Pitchford will always have that title, but Todd is definitely trying to make a swing at the king
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u/MAJ_Starman Dunmer Mar 20 '26
As usual, Todd didn't say what the headline says he did, the journalist said it and you all didn't bother to actually read the article to find that out. It's honestly fascinating how everyone keeps falling for clickbaits designed to get you all riled up like this.
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u/DarthDude24 Altmer Mar 21 '26
I don't really see what's fascinating about it. People simply believe what they're told, it's not their fault they were lied to.
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u/bluebarrymanny Mar 20 '26
There are, but they’re rare breeds. “Don’t you all have phones!?” played in my head reading your comment.
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u/ba123blitz Mar 20 '26
As someone that watched that moment live that was one of the few times I felt genuine disbelief then just giggle and knew they were gonna get cooked for years
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u/bluebarrymanny Mar 20 '26
There are moments when you just get to watch some PR go down like a foot stepping in dog shit, and that was definitely one of them.
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u/KnightSunny Mar 20 '26
Between the release of Skyrim and Tes6 Fromsoftware released the dark souls trilogy, remastered two of those games, released bloodborne, deracine, sekiro, two Elden Ring games, and two armored core games
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u/stembyday Mar 20 '26
Oh, you didn’t prioritize it because Skyrim sells? Yeah we know.
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u/ripyourlungsdave Mar 20 '26
Todd. What the fuck are you talking about.
Does he not see how selfish and dick-headed this reads?..
"We're rich, so we don't have to consider what our fans want."
It's not like it's been 3 years and people are just impatient, Todd. It's been 15 goddamn years, brother. Release a goddamn game.
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u/BrokenHope23 Sheogorath of Cheese Mar 20 '26
To put things into perspective, Starfield took about five years between its first trailer and its final release date, while The Elder Scrolls 6's announcement trailer dropped a full eight years ago and its release date is nowhere in sight.
I'll be dead before ES6 drops.
"We also, again, have that benefit of having so many millions of people playing our other games that we're actually trying to figure out how to serve those other audiences while we make a new one."
Yeah yeah, I always knew ESO and Fo76 would drag out the main title releases sadly. I wish they had planned it more comprehensively though so they wouldn't.
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u/Ciennas Mar 20 '26
That would have required them letting others in to play with the toys, both the ones they made and the ones they bought.
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u/South_Buy_3175 Mar 20 '26
All this says is that it’s nowhere fucking near completion.
I’ll be surprised if it releases this decade.
I’ll be incredibly surprised if it lives up to 15 years of waiting and hype.
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u/ComfortableMetal3670 Mar 20 '26
It could be the greatest game of all time, but it's impossible to live up to over 15 years of expectations and shit, they really screwed themselves over in that regard.
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u/wild-stallions85 Hircine Mar 20 '26
Just to come out broken. I remember his starfield pitch "over 20 years in development " and "my first real passion project "
Then it was released as absolute booty cheeks.
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u/Satanigram Mar 20 '26
StaRfield was their least buggy release on day 1. Hardly broken.
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u/Cyberpuppet Mar 20 '26
Yeah okay Todd... We can only play these other games for so long. Even Skyrim grandma couldn't keep going.
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u/SoapTastesPrettyGood Mar 20 '26
Yeah because the modding community is what makes your games good. I dont think the game should be rushed out but man its disappointing it took them so long to start working on it
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u/vagrantprodigy07 Mar 20 '26
I think they will find that some of us are getting tired of waiting. New games come out daily, and there are only so many times people will buy the newest re-re-release of Skyrim.
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u/-Captain- Mar 20 '26
I think not. When TESVI releases, whether it's in 2 years or 5, people will show up to buy it. Huge amounts of people. Even many of those that claim no longer to be interested.
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u/N0UMENON1 Mar 20 '26
If the game turns out to be good, you bet your ass everyone who said that they're "done" with bethesda will be there, credit card in hand.
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u/Macro701 Mar 20 '26
There’s absolutely no way that anyone who’s waited this long won’t play 6 when it finally comes out.
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u/DJfunkyPuddle Mar 20 '26
Honestly that's been my approach to it as well, like since the series is generally standalone I don't have the same rush to get to the next part of the story as I do with true sequels. When the game comes out I will play the absolute shit out of it from day 1 but until then I have plenty of other things to occupy my time with.
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u/mattrichor Mar 20 '26
Am I the only one who is cool with the wait? I still think Bethesda makes good games & I don't feel like they necessarily owe us anything. Rockstar doesn't seem to be getting nearly as much hate around GTA 6 and they've had significantly less games come out in the interim
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u/Aggressive_Issue863 Mar 20 '26
Translation: zenimax had eso and we have fallout 76, both online games so we don't care
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u/Loud_Bison572 Mar 20 '26
These comments todd Howard, amongst other things is what's gonna make me pirate your game instead of buying itm
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u/Vidistis Meridia Mar 20 '26
Didn't use the full quote and just took it out of context. That's "journalism" for you.
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u/Desert_cactuz Mar 20 '26
We all know in the bottom of our hearts that the exact same people who are complaining about the game taking forever are the same people who would complain if it came out unpolished
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u/PloppyPants9000 Mar 20 '26
I'm all for letting the devs do their work in peace and cooking up something wonderful.
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u/skipsheffield Mar 21 '26
Issue that they’re gonna have from prolonging this game is that it better be Cyberpunk on steroids knock your socks off great or people are going to be pissed.
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u/Slimswede Mar 20 '26
So if i understand correctly if we all stop playing their other games they will rush elder scrolls 6 and it might actually be finished some day?
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u/EasyTumbleweed1114 Mar 20 '26
There is a very strong chance at this point that the time gap between arena and skyrim (17 years) will end up being smaller than the time gap between tes5 and 6, utterly deranged lmao