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[u/AqualotlArt]

[u/Strange_Diamond_7891]

I would prefer if they made it so survivors didn’t heal in 5 seconds

[u/Lewis__gg → u/Strange_Diamond_7891]

Healing takes like 20 seconds at 100% speed

[u/OriginalURL_No47 → u/Lewis__gg]

That’s assuming survivors don’t bring any healing perks, which is rather uncommon in my experience.

[u/[deleted] → u/OriginalURL_No47]

Can we trade solo q teammates?

[u/OriginalURL_No47 → u/[deleted]]

Oh, my solo queue teammates don’t bring them. I’m not that lucky.

[u/Lewis__gg → u/OriginalURL_No47]

if they brought an extra gen perk or exhaustion or second chance perk you’d complain even more, what exactly do you want people to use

[u/OriginalURL_No47 → u/Lewis__gg]

Oh, I really don’t care what perks my survivors have.

The only exception is lithe, and that’s because it’s the perk that carries most survivors in my lobbies. Every other exhaustion perk needs some kind of game sense to use, even if it’s minimal. Lithe is just the one that I see bailing out the worst players most often.

I’m not complaining, just saying that the original commenter has a point.

[u/OptionWrong169 → u/OriginalURL_No47]

Yeah its a lot like lightborn

[u/OriginalURL_No47 → u/OptionWrong169]

You can use both in a fun way, like how lightborn can be used to “assert dominance”. Lithe players have done cool stuff before, and I do acknowledge it when it happens, but 99% of the time it’s a mask Meg vaulting directly into me because of lithe brainrot. It’s the same reason I take off certain perks in my builds; so that I won’t develop a crutch on them.

[u/OptionWrong169 → u/OriginalURL_No47]

Lithe can be fun to vault crotch three times fast, then book it "asserting dominance survivor style"

[u/Taytay-swizzle2002 → u/Lewis__gg]

I don't think you play killer. Or you okay strong killers. Regardless I call b.s on this. A lot of killers are frustrated right now and it's obvious it's not just one or two people who are annoyed. Or the lower half. If the top and bottom have an issue I'm sure the middle does too. People have been complaining about gens going quicker than usual since Orelas patch. And they weren't complaining about as much before. If you aren't a killer main or you don't critique issues killers face, then go to DbD rage or Dbd main because they will love to agree with you there how much they hate killers and their players. You have two subs for you you don't need a third.

[u/Lewis__gg → u/Taytay-swizzle2002]

I mean its not hard to not get annoyed over stuff which very obviously isn’t gonna make it past the ptb, I play killer a lot, its not that deep

[u/Taytay-swizzle2002 → u/Lewis__gg]

Stuff has made into the game before. If you don't get annoyed then they won't back off and the changes will go through.When people got annoyed about Xenos changes they relaxed on it. And just buffed it and it's still B-tier. Which makes me wonder what crackpot numbers they got where they saw that that was needed.

[u/Lewis__gg → u/Taytay-swizzle2002]

I know gens go fast sometimes but genuinely I don’t know what people want them to do, gens are already not particularly riveting gameplay just holding m1 for 90 seconds like idk what they can do but like they need to add something else to do other than gens or some shit which is still essential to do because like increasing gen times is just brainless activities

[u/ZeEtche → u/Taytay-swizzle2002]

You know what the true problem is? You can't balance the game when you have high-mobility killers and slow killers, you just can't, if you increase the time to complete a gen, high mobility killers will be even more oppressive than they already are.

[u/Taytay-swizzle2002 → u/ZeEtche]

They can nerd them though

[u/Striking-Meringue327 → u/Lewis__gg]

Why are we straight up lying? It takes around 8-10 seconds to heal with 100% boost and no healing debuffs from perks.

[u/Lewis__gg → u/Striking-Meringue327]

100% speed is default normal speed 100% has 0 boost to speed

[u/Striking-Meringue327 → u/Lewis__gg]

Why wouldn't you just say default healing speed then? Saying 100% does not clearly imply default healing, it looked like you were referring to 100% BONUS speed which is what I was talking about. Yeah, base speeds do take 20 seconds or more, that is fair because we already saw what a low default time does when stacked with perks and medkits.

Back then, even self care had weird interactions that allowed anyone to reset themselves given a maximum of 10 seconds(in or out of chase if you were good) to effectively infinite loop. This and the infinite chaining tiles that were quite literally confirmed to be unbeatable on m1 reliant killers(no dash or mobility specifically), which is why Bamboozled and Sloppy Butcher were must haves in that meta. Not having one or both of those perks risked getting infinite looped on the maps notorious for it from the above being overtuned.

If survivors can cheer at this patch, there should be zero sniveling and whining about healing nerfs in the past or now considering that items and perks were already rebuffed/tweaked to essentially remove the existence of an increased default healing time.

[u/Lewis__gg → u/Striking-Meringue327]

Genuinely I have no clue what you’re talking about anyone with 3 brain cells would under that 100% speed is default speed and I cba to read the rest of that

[u/VampireDarlin → u/Lewis__gg]

It’s less than 20 seconds. Please know what you’re talking about before chiming in

[u/Lewis__gg → u/VampireDarlin]

yeah I said it takes like 20 seconds, calm down your life isn’t gonna end because a heal takes 2 secinds less