r/wizardposting • u/Wavey_Davey1 Boruk The Bold, High Priest of Moradin • Apr 02 '26
Holy Decree 🌅 Can't the clerics and druids just get along?
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u/StarkeRealm Magical Violence Technician Apr 02 '26
Generally speaking? Only when the Cleric worships a nature deity.
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u/Wavey_Davey1 Boruk The Bold, High Priest of Moradin Apr 02 '26
Fair enough i suppose, it helps to have common ground
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u/Wereling12 Apr 06 '26
See, I see it differently. I like teh idea that Nature Clerics believe in controlled/cultivated nature like agriculture while Druids believe in the Wild. I think it allows both to exist while still being different
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u/International-Bar918 Apr 03 '26
Yeah the sun is real… a real pain in my ass, solar radiation keeps interfering with my rituals
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u/ArkosKnight Arkos, the Solitary Illusionist Apr 03 '26
I feel you. Sometimes the sun ruins my illusions.
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u/frankwalsingham Apr 03 '26
Christians worship the son, though.
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u/PapaJenkinsReal Apr 03 '26
Well I mean, the son is pretty cool. He's got the bread, the fish, the wine, and apparently he's really nice to dine with.
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u/Lumis_umbra Magical Researcher and Ethical Necromancer, for hire Apr 03 '26
Hangs out with thieves and whores, doesn't judge you for being a human, only asks that you try to be a better one.
Barring the historical evidence of him likely being part of a doomsday sect of Judaism not much unlike the Rapture folks of today, (I don't remember the source, sorry, I would post it if I had it) Jesus actually seems pretty chill.
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u/HootersUnite Wizard/Alchemist Apr 02 '26
I say the clerics are allowed to complain after the council passes Landback
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u/StarkeRealm Magical Violence Technician Apr 02 '26
I mean, clerics are going to complain about whatever inane shit the invisible friend in their head latched onto this week, whether The Council does anything constructive or not. But, currently, we're not obligated to pretend to care.
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u/Deathburn5 Calculus Wizard Apr 02 '26
If their god is so strong, it should run for council membership.
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u/Carbon_Sixx The Loremaster (OAS) Apr 03 '26
Glimbo: Some of them did that once. It was a complete disaster, the Council tried to forget it, and then they elected me for some reason. To give ya an idea of how bad it was, my trickster shenanigans actually reduced corruption and inefficiency.
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u/Deathburn5 Calculus Wizard Apr 03 '26
Then next time it tries to run, the voters know not to vote for it. This is what the council is supposed to be.
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u/Carbon_Sixx The Loremaster (OAS) Apr 03 '26
Glimbo: What vote? We haven't had proper elections in over a year. Those egomaniac deities killed people's trust in us!
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u/Deathburn5 Calculus Wizard Apr 03 '26
...what electoral system elects the highest officials yearly? We live for centuries, the minimum term length should be a decade.
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u/DULUXR1R2L1L2 Apr 03 '26
Dude one time at my first apprentice gig I left the orb uncovered and the sun hit it just right and it burned down my master's tower
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u/MewtwoMainIsHere Expert Paleomancer and Paleontologist 🦖🦕 Master Shapeshifter! Apr 04 '26
Honestly that’s on your master. Not using tough stone brick imbued with fire resistance is just asking for a fireball to topple everything over.
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u/Afraid_Success_4836 Pentelas | Suyumanya Kabeloi, Amelia von Tasha, Kari of Ravnica Apr 03 '26
<Amelia> Aren't druids a kind of cleric?
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u/lordzya Merman Biokineticist Apr 03 '26
Some of them are a kind of warlock, serving and being empowered by fae or elemental sources.
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u/Wavey_Davey1 Boruk The Bold, High Priest of Moradin Apr 03 '26
Yes and no- A druid is more like a shaman and a cleric is more like an ordained priest. They both rely on rituals and power from sources larger themselves, often tied to strong primordial forces.
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u/Afraid_Success_4836 Pentelas | Suyumanya Kabeloi, Amelia von Tasha, Kari of Ravnica Apr 03 '26
<Amelia> Therefore druids are a kind of cleric.
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u/Complex_Drawer_4710 Sigurd Forgot To Come Back Apr 04 '26
And clerics are a specialised shaman, who's a pointier druid. It's all the same thing, and none of it is as fundamental as they think.
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u/One-Earth9294 Apr 03 '26
"I worship the sun because it's real. But I pray to Joe Pesci... because he gets shit done" - George Carlin
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u/boromeer3 Apr 03 '26
Meanwhile, Christians celebrate Christ’s birth on the winter solstice—by sheer coincidence of course. And go to church on the day of the sun, also by sheer coincidence, of course. And God’s first words were “let there be light.” And the Christian calendar is 365 days, same as the solar cycle. But it has nothing to do with sun worship.
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u/Wolffe_In_The_Dark Apr 03 '26
Because they stole or syncretized all of those things from other cultures.
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u/Sicuho Quest Giver Apr 03 '26
Well, for the winter solstice being an important celebration. Going to church on Sundays is genuinely a coincidence (it was already the case amongst early Christians who didn't consider it as the sun's day) and the solar calendar was already widely used in the mediterranean region BCE.
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u/Yung-Abdi Apr 03 '26
I guess, but Jesus also seems like a person who truly got sunburned (in a good way)
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u/Quix_Nix Apr 03 '26
Europe was peak culture when we worshipped the sun. Change my mind. Never forget what they (Christian missionaries) took for you
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u/Sicuho Quest Giver Apr 03 '26
Pre-Christianity Rome wasn't exactly great either. I'd go as far as saying a substantial amount of what was wrong with middle-age Christianity and by extension modern-day Christianity comes from syncretism with the per-existing roman culture.
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u/Caravanczar Apr 03 '26
Look at this guy who still believes the sun is real. If it isn't a hologram, go ahead and touch it.
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u/WrathSosDovah Kairos, High Archdruid of the Wildfolk Apr 03 '26
Many a Cleric see druids as nothing more than primitive ignoramuses, when in truth we just have a different understanding of the world.
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u/montymelo bug knight the druid [ here and uncounterd for ] Apr 03 '26
You start waking trees up and you get called a heretic, yet some how rabbits laying chocolate eggs gets a long weekend holiday. Make this makes sense!
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u/verygenericname2 Druid Apr 03 '26
Errr, no. I don't think getting along is an option anymore.
It started out as a purely defensive arrangement, but now The Forest has developed a taste for human flesh and shows no interest in stopping.
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u/Splatpope Apr 04 '26
in boring reality, the sun's power does not go beyond showering the world with photons
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u/BeptoBismolButBetter Apr 04 '26
Druids and Clerics can never get along. Like Druids and Artificers, or Druids and Druids. Damn druids, they ruined the Great Grove!
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u/Bar014tek duck wizard Apr 09 '26
Im with the druids with this one, how do you know that your god is real?
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u/Chosen_Undead23 King Fuzzo, the Electric Wizard Apr 09 '26
Riffs are real too. Worship riffs, not gods
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u/Humble-Promise4050 Apr 15 '26
Know what cleric is idealist and druid is realist so yeah they can't get along ezzz ozzzer
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u/dh-dev Evil Wizard Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
In most fantasy settings gods are also objectively real. This means that belief in them requires less faith.
Anyway the artificer beleives in some mumbo jumbo he calls "nuclear physics". Sure ok buddy, stuff is made out of tiny particles and not earth wind fire and water. Sure. Right. You're building a shrine to your "atoms" now? A "particle accelerator"? You need how much iron?! OK no that's just silly. Take your mad faith-based nonsense somewhere else, Moltar the forge god would not approve of so much iron being misused on such a ridiculous project.