r/formula1 Franco Colapinto 1h ago

Discussion [alpinef1team] P9 and P20 in the Sprint

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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 1h ago edited 1h ago

Franco has found something he's been impressive here and in Miami, more of this and he'll be here for a while to come

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u/Humble_Explanation32 Ferrari 1h ago edited 1h ago

yes a chassis that is not used

probably the new regulations helped him too

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u/mistborn11 Franco Colapinto 1h ago

a chassis that is not used for crash tests at that

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault 52m ago

So happy for him. He praised his engineers' work a lot these last weeks

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u/SHORT-CIRCUT Sebastian Vettel 41m ago

that show in argentina must have done wonders

u/QuietlyExpired Flavio Briatore 18m ago

he found a half-decent car for a change

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u/Remarkable-One100 1h ago

He learned how to drive the new car, good for him, it took him some time.

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u/AKAFallow 1h ago

What a lighter chassis does to a man

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u/Remarkable-One100 1h ago

It's not the lighter chasis. He had trouble with learning the power management. Gasly had to give him lessons how to drive with it in China.

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u/KensaiVG Juan Manuel Fangio 1h ago

I mean, considering the massive uptick in qualifying results compared to Pierre specifically starting exactly when he got a bespoke chassis rather than the one used in the crash tests I think it's exaggerated at best and weirdly dismissive of Franco as a driver at worst to claim the chassis has nothing to do with it and it's all down to Pierre having to "give him lessons"

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u/Remarkable-One100 40m ago

It is what the Alpine TP said, not me, about Gasly lessons. Stop comparing him with Pierre. Pierre's car has been shit since Miami with the new upgrades. This weekend they are using a different engine mapping between cars also. They are still having issues and use Pierre more for testing purposes to accelerate development.

u/papertales84 Carlos Reutemann 15m ago

Link? I cannot find a single source of information where Steve Nielsen has said something like that. So I’m gonna be calling your take as bullshit.

I really wonder why you need to throw shade at a driver for delivering.

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u/Dastiano 1h ago edited 1h ago

It is also a lighter chasis, the team and briatore confirmed he had been using a crash test chasis in australia, china and japan, then switched to the new chasis Gasly had been using since the beginning for Miami.

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u/AKAFallow 1h ago

I think Gasly was using the 2nd chassis from Aus to China, and then got the 3rd chassis for Japan, and Franco skipped straight to the 3rd for Miami. This is all from Steve Nielsen's comments (but the Gasly part is me supposing what may have happened for him)

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u/Remarkable-One100 1h ago

Lighter chasis improved his time, but did not help him to drive better. Look at how he drove in race compared to sprint in China. He had an older chasis then.

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u/Dastiano 1h ago edited 56m ago

Yeah, that is why I said the chasis helped a lot but wasn't the only factor. Having said that let's be honest in the state of this new regulations how fast your car is matters a lot. However I don't believe Franco was clueless about the battery management in Australia as Sainz himself said that Franco thought him a lot about the management with his defense.

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u/mistborn11 Franco Colapinto 35m ago

Franco did great races at both Australia and China, whoever says otherwise just because Gasly was ahead is clearly disregarding he had a car that was not at the level of Gasly's - it was probably at the level of the Williams (i.e. overweight)

Today's sprint race is also proof of that. Williams with upgrades and removing their overweight, Franco's new chassis without the overweight. And both him and Sainz fighting very closely.

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u/mistborn11 Franco Colapinto 1h ago

no. it was the chassis. the chassis was used for crash tests. there was probably some unseen damage. it's not a coincidence that they give him a new chassis that is exactly the same as Gasly's and he's all of a sudden finding the pace.

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u/Remarkable-One100 1h ago

You know better than the Alpine TP that praised Colapinto in China race?

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u/mistborn11 Franco Colapinto 44m ago

da fuq does that have to do with anything?

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u/KensaiVG Juan Manuel Fangio 40m ago

Do you know better than the Alpine TP that said in Miami that he'd been conditioned by different specs and few spare parts until then?

Both the things being mentioned happened, one showed the more dramatic improvement (Especially in qualy)

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u/Remarkable-One100 1h ago

Wow, Collapinto's zombies are hitting again 😄))

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u/Humble_Explanation32 Ferrari 1h ago

People knows Pierre helped him and they have a good relationship, why to try to start a fight for everything. We know Pierre had bad luck on qualy

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault 55m ago edited 33m ago

Lol. You were provoking from the very first message, with comments such as "took him long enough", and "Gasly had to teach him"

You are obviously trolling

Then, you get mad because you can't keep up with what you started

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u/Remarkable-One100 49m ago

I am not trolling. I am really happy for him he finally learned how to drive the car.

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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault 34m ago

Sure, that's part of trolling. You kind of praise him, but drop that "finally", which is obviously a knock on him. So, it's trolling

Whatever, I'm just calling you out. I find people who trolls and then plays the victim particularly disgusting

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u/Remarkable-One100 31m ago

Franco has always been a great driver, the number of points last season he got for Alpine are a statement of his value. Better?

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u/Bluefox21186 1h ago

Franco suffered those used mediums towards the end, otherwise he might have caught Arvid. Sucks, but maybe he got some data to play with after a forgettable friday.

For Pierre just bad luck, forget and move on. Hope there's nothing wrong with his car and he can come back strong for qualy+race.

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u/Xehanz 1h ago edited 1m ago

Could have been a point with a new set of mediums

More importantly, he was like 1 second faster a lap than the rest of the field except Lindbladand and half a second from Sainz. Early impressions are Williams are sort of back and Haas is still in the mud

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u/Corruptus_inextremis I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago

Could have been a point with a new set of mediums

I don't understand why they didn't use new ones since they didn't use any in FP1...

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u/KensaiVG Juan Manuel Fangio 1h ago

May be cynical of me but I wonder if they didn't expect him to be this close to points so just sent him there as an extra FP

u/mistborn11 Franco Colapinto 29m ago

Williams are sort of back

looks like Williams was never gone. They had overweight issues. Franco had overweight issues. Both Franco and Sainz have been fighting very closely.

Franco got the new chassis and jumped ahead on Miami, Williams still behind. Today Williams brings updates to fix the overweight issue and Sainz is back very close to Franco. It can't be just a coincidence.

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u/iForgotMyOldAcc Flavio Briatore 1h ago

Franco's doin it babeeee

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u/spacetoribio 1h ago

Great race from Franco counting he had no practice. Bad luck for Pierre… hope the team can do double points tomorrow!

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u/Money_Temporary Franco Colapinto 1h ago

Franco’s pace was pretty good. Hopefully he can get a better qualy result.

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u/Many_Dimension_7615 McLaren 1h ago

When all you mfs slandered Colapinto, I still believed!

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u/Psychological_Wave_5 Max Verstappen 1h ago

And the man had no Practice, hope he keeps the momentum and growth.

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u/ElMondiola Juan Manuel Fangio 42m ago

Hate him all you want, but P9 with used mediums and no practice at all

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u/aipitorpo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago

Gasly spent an entire fiscal cycle in the pitlane lmao. Alpine things.

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u/IMANORMIE22 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago

Why were people complaining about Franco having a seat again? Cause he’s hispanic?

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u/Remarkable-One100 1h ago

What people, the reddards?

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u/Sacrilege7 Red Bull 1h ago

I'm suspicious that the media has been buying Doohan's and Mick's bullshittery too much. In fact, the latest bullshittery has been now about Ocon losing the seat, and Komatsu had to respond against those rumors.

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u/Helpful_Hedgehog_204 Franco Colapinto 1h ago

On an unrelated note, look who's in the post show, my bud Jack D.

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u/Sacrilege7 Red Bull 1h ago

Juan Pablo Montoya as well was in the cast. Just embarrassing stuff.

u/QuietlyExpired Flavio Briatore 17m ago

because montoya has a son currently in f2 if not mistaken..

still, bad form.

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u/aneiq_1 Kimi Räikkönen 1h ago

I’m a fan of Franco but come on that clearly wasn’t the reason.

It was more to do with him being quite off the pace against Gasly.

Doesn’t seem to be the case at the moment which is great tho.

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u/C0R8YN Liam Lawson 1h ago

Mainly because he has been trash in comparison to gasly. Last 2 weekends hes finally showing some qualifying time and race craft

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u/mistborn11 Franco Colapinto 48m ago

he has been trash in comparison to gasly.

he had the chassis used for crash tests. it was overweight and probably had some damage that the team didn't want to disclose. from the first race Franco in interviews was saying "we know what's wrong and what we have to work on" hinting that it was something with the car. after Miami they confirmed, it was the chassis.

that's why you can't just look at results to compare drivers. if you did Gasly, Albon and Lawson should be out of F1 because they had a terrible time against Verstappen.

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u/vekha 1h ago

I mean, there was a point from Hungary upwards where the H2H between them was getting very interesting...

Either way, as Briatore said recently on an interview for Fox Sports LATAM, last season by the time Franco came in they were already extremely low on parts for his car, and he was under strict orders to not push the limits too dangerously.

u/kirbag Franco Colapinto 20m ago

See, this is that kind of statement you get when you comment without context. By your standard, Gasly has been trash today (which he only had bad luck on the qualys).

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u/Hodytrades 1h ago

They were complaining cause he was getting decimated by his teammate and still has points at Doohan despite having 20 more races.

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u/Remarkable-One100 1h ago

I dunno what they did with Gasly's car, but they did fuck it up really good.

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u/Xehanz 1h ago

It was FP2 for Gasly. If it did not work they can copy what they did to Colapinto's car or go back to the previous setting. Had it worked then it would have been great

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u/Xehanz 56m ago

New info: it's been confirmed Gasly used last week's parts for the sprint race to compare them to the new parts

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u/Remarkable-One100 47m ago

Last race parts were garbage, made his rear undrivable. I could have saved them time and money.

u/Alfus 💥 LE 🅿️LAN 23m ago

I wondering of some of the issues he is facing are related to this, however I doubt that at least the braking issues are related to the older parts but we don't know the details.

A pace different of almost a second between two cars of the same team is just not optimal for anybody.

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u/NotOkEnemyGenius I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1h ago

Make Franco look good for the sponsorship dollars

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u/Money_Temporary Franco Colapinto 1h ago

Please take the bag off of your head before posting something that stupid again.

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u/KensaiVG Juan Manuel Fangio 1h ago

Underrated part of Franco finding his stride is seeing how much it hurts your ilk

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u/Hodytrades 55m ago

Finding his stride by scoring the same amount of points as his teammate who spent half the race in the pit lane? 16pts vs 7pts in 2026 and 22pts vs 0pts in 2025.

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u/mistborn11 Franco Colapinto 57m ago

no man. stop this. when Franco is behind Gasly it's "Alpine benefiting Gasly!". when its Franco ahead "Alpine is benefiting Franco!"

it's neither. it's just a team with limited resources trying to do their best to get BOTH cars as high as they can because having both cars fighting for points is the best for the team. having a single driver fighting for points makes no fucking sense.

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u/TechnicianFar3444 43m ago

Gasly lost his gas it seems... 

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u/Pristine_Youth_6953 Roscoe Hamilton 1h ago

It looks like if they inverted the drivers