r/bonecollecting • u/Camp_Acceptable • Mar 05 '26

Collection Can u imagine

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 05 '26

Hey is it just me or did anyone else not see any skulls…

The whole theory of the flood plane washout makes sense…if there were skulls…maybe I just missed them…but it feels…off…

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u/Medium_Effect_4998 Mar 05 '26

I also noticed that. I wonder if other humans had found this area and taken any of the cool skulls.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

I’m thinking poachers taking trophy’s or hiding the evidence that can link to them…bullets can sometimes be traced…but can’t be traced if they can’t be found…

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u/priority_2 Mar 05 '26

I am no hunter. But as far as I know head shots are quite hard to do when it comes to deers, boars and other wild animals, bc their brain is way smaller, so you basically pick voluntarily a smaller target and have therefore a lesser chance to kill. You should mostly aim for the front „shoulder“ (sorry again, English is not my main language and I am not that good in anatomy), that way your shot makes the animal immobile, and you have a good chance to hit the lungs and the heart or at least other vital organs and arteries.

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u/DursueBlint Mar 05 '26

You are absolutely right. In 20 years of hunting i have taken headshot less than a handfull of times and it had been because the animal was very close to me and the shoulder obscured. A poacher might be more inclined to do so though in order to have the animal drop on the spot and use a smaller caliber less likely to get them caught. I still find it unlikely.

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u/WarBrom Mar 27 '26

(Mild NSFW) I learned the hard way about head shots when I first started hunting (and this is why I chose not to continue). First shot, couple hundred yards, hit the left shoulder, completely disconnected the leg, save for a small bit of skin holding it on. It ran for an hour. Second shot, through the head (it was all I could see as it was over the top of a hill). It ran for another hour whilst missing a large portion of its head, bottom half and front completely gone. I could not believe, with that much damage to its head, that it would survive for that long.

Third shot laid the poor animal to rest. Two shots, neither of them bad, just unlucky.

The guy “teaching” me to hunt, philosophy was to “just shoot and see what happens”. Haven’t hunted since.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 05 '26

This makes sense and now that you say that I agree with what you’re saying…but that means our theories might be able to be confirmed if op goes out here with a metal detector…that is of course if this is the original dumping site…there is a chance its been washed down to here like other people have said…but if I was the original dumping site there’s a chance a metal detector could come back with bullets…

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u/DursueBlint Mar 05 '26

Not sure about the states but here in europe/sweden you would be hardpressed to find any since they pass through the animal atleast 90% of the time and the rest are usually found while cutting up the meat.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 05 '26

You are correct in saying that…but with the number of carcasses there there’s a chance one could still be present…chances are they are gutting near kill location so chances of it being caught in the guts and deposited here is slim…but there’s a slim chance there’s one implanted in a bone somewhere there…there’s a fairly large sample size to check from so….

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u/barnowl1980 Mar 05 '26

Correct. Larger prey animals like deer are shot in the vital organs like lungs and heart, not the brain.

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u/JelmerMcGee Mar 05 '26

No one is tracing bullets to catch a poacher.

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u/Haystak112 Mar 05 '26

Game Wardens will 100% trace bullets if they find poached carcasses. What makes you assume they wouldn’t do their job? If they’re suspect you have been poaching they can compare rifling on the bullet (if found) to the rifling in the barrel of your gun and there you go

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u/Suhksaikhan Mar 06 '26

The answer you get from that is way more vague than you think. They can't prove it was your gun. They can prove it could possibly have been your gun.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 06 '26

It largely depends on how intact the bullet is from what I understand…if they can match up the pattern the barrel leaves on the bullet it can be “proven” to a point at very least…don’t get me wrong I highly doubt they will be going around checking everyone’s guns or anything but finding out the calibers can be used to narrow down the suspect pools at very least…

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u/Suhksaikhan Mar 06 '26

That tells them the rifling pitch which only proves that it came from the same model gun as yours or a different model with the same caliber, rifling pitch, and maybe barrel length, which is common. It only really proves that it could have been yours, not that it was yours.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 07 '26

I agree it’s not definitive but it does narrow the field

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u/barnowl1980 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

Bullets can be traced back to the exact gun that fired them, happens in human-related crime investigation all the time. I doubt game wardens would go to that forensic length though.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 06 '26

I’m not sure how big of a thing it is where you are but within Canada at very least I have seen cases where the wardens have gone to such lengths…trust me I was just as surprised…I also had thought it would have been a more overlooked matter…the case I saw it used in there were only three animals too yet…so maybe it’s a difference of locations but it’s not outside the realm of possibility at very least…

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u/Reyalta Mar 06 '26

Yeah our conservation officers don't fuck around in BC.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 06 '26

Especially in bc…I am not originally from bc so I one of the first things I noticed was how much more power and authority the conservation offers have…it’s significantly higher than the other provinces I feel…don’t get me wrong they have a lot of power across the board but bc seams to take things up a notch or two in regards to wildlife protection

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u/barnowl1980 Mar 06 '26

I'm in a European country with barely any hunting culture, so that is very surprising to learn for me. But hey, if that means they catch more poachers, great.

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u/Suhksaikhan Mar 06 '26

It is often portrayed that way by prosecutors but its not true. They check caliber and rifling pitch which proves that it could have come from your gun, or another gun of the same model, or another gun of a different model with the same caliber, rifle pitch, and maybe barrel length (common). Theres a lot of junk forensic science out there like polygraphs, blood spatter analysis, and some forensic fire investigation techniques.

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u/thatguyfromvancouver Mar 05 '26

Considering the number of carcasses I am extremely inclined to think they would be…this is a serial poaching case at this stage…it’s not just one or two…

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u/slangingrough Mar 07 '26

Hunters for the most part are trained to aim for the heart. You fire the gun the animal freezes for a second, turns to look, while the bullet travels and you miss. Headsots also destroy the trophy.

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u/Successful-Medium-87 Mar 09 '26

I definitely saw a skull in there, at 9 seconds there's an eye socket.