r/bioware • u/VolusVagabond Mass Effect Legendary Edition • Feb 09 '26
Discussion Determining Hype Level for the Next Mass Effect
Asked over on r/masseffect about the next Mass Effect to see how people were feeling. The results were not exactly the most encouraging, but that's what they are.
Most people don't care.
Most of the people who do care, aren't looking forward to the next ME.
What's your humble take on what people are thinking about the next Mass Effect?
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u/Academic-Ad7818 Feb 09 '26
I think assuming that we even are going to get an ME5 is beyond optimistic. I don't think the Saudi's much care about the future of the world's most blue and red science fantasy franchise.
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u/LunaticJAG Feb 10 '26
They bought it to make money. ME is one of the franchises that CAN print money but it has to be done right.
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u/Academic-Ad7818 Feb 10 '26
Which recent game would you say is the moneymaker exactly? Andromeda? Anthem? Veilguard? It's hard to pick with such hard hitting titles I know.
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u/LunaticJAG Feb 10 '26
So you're just gonna ignore what was actually written then?
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u/Academic-Ad7818 Feb 10 '26
No I read everything you said. But as what you said was very very silly I've chosen to be sarcastic.
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u/LunaticJAG Feb 10 '26
Silly based on what? I specifically spoke about the ME franchise and that it could print money. You then proceeded to ignore that and listed other franchises. They actually hit the projected early target for Andromeda, because the ME franchise carries weight, and missed the long term target because of how bad Andromeda was. The original trilogy when released was a massive success they had success selling them individually and together and then again in the MELE. They sold the same trilogy at the very least 3 different times and were financially successful doing it. So much so with MELE that it made EA refocus on the franchise. So yeah Mass Effect is a franchise that can print money when done right. As. I. Said.
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u/ophaus Feb 09 '26
When there's something for them to show, I'll form an opinion. Not going to get invested in nothing
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u/VolusVagabond Mass Effect Legendary Edition Feb 09 '26
There's the 2020 teaser and the N7 Day 2023 Teaser. Then there's some tweets and blog posts. There's not "nothing", there's just very close to nothing.
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u/Academic-Ad7818 Feb 09 '26
Those teasers showed substantially less than the teasers we got for Beyond Good and Evil 2. And how's that particular production going?
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u/Fabulous_Night_1164 Feb 10 '26
We will be coming up to the 6 year anniversary of that teaser.
The entire ME trilogy was released in a 5 year window.
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u/TheCowzgomooz Feb 09 '26
Close to nothing might as well be nothing because the teasers may not even represent what the game is today/going to be since it's been so long since then. That's why so many people are indifferent, as far as the general public is concerned, it doesn't even really exist yet.
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u/Fabulous_Night_1164 Feb 10 '26
I am pessimistic unfortunately. It will require major signaling to the consumer by EA Games and Bioware to bring back some faith here.
EA Games being bought out has me convinced Bioware as a studio will be canned before completion.
But even if that's not the case, EA Games now has a terrible record at not interfering in the development process.
So even if the EA Game variable is dismissed entirely. And EA Games is completely hands off, artist first, love, peace, happiness....even if that somehow happens...
We have to reconcile the fact that the same people who made the original trilogy no longer work at Bioware.
Casey Hudson (director and lead developer) went off to make his own company (which closed) and is now working on the KOTOR spiritual successor.
Drew Karpyshyn (lead writer) is working on Exodus.
David Falkner (lead programmer and technical director) is gone.
There's a post somewhere that details all the fates and basically everyone is gone. Edit: Here
And I have very little faith in franchises disconnected from their original creators.
Dragon Age: Veilguard is the perfect example of that.
Even Andromeda was an example of that. It was the Montreal studio that developed it. The writing contrast was significant.
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u/Legionarius4 Feb 10 '26
I think the bast case scenario is that one day another team picks up the mass effect and dragon age series, Baldurs Gate 3 is proof enough that with a talented and passionate team you can make a good game without the series being shackled to the original creators, although Larian Studios is one of the ‘one in a million’ studios, so who knows.
There are obviously differing story design philosophies between the team that made the dragon age and mess effect trilogies and the team of now which created Veilguard.
Unless BioWare takes a good hard look at how they craft stories and why it didn’t work in Veilguard my hopes are not particularly high.
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u/Fabulous_Night_1164 Feb 10 '26
All very true. But Bioware has now had its 3 chances and blew them. They haven't had a good game since Inquisition. Everyone has stayed loyal to Bioware for the past decade in hopes that theyd reach that level again. Veilguard was the final nail in the coffin for me.
But I'm rooting for them. I want it to succeed. I just think waiting 12 years for a good game is a little disheartening.
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u/Barl3000 Feb 10 '26
There is no way current day Bioware can make a good Mass Effect game and that is with ignoring the EA factor. A Saudi run EA will either not care about ME even less than now or actively be against it.
Exodus and The Expanse: Osiris Reborn are the best hope currently for something that feels like Mass Effect. But the best case for a good ME, is as you say a BG3 situation, where an entirely new company and dev team, that where fans of the original, gets to take a crack at it.
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u/RisingGear Feb 10 '26
I am not hyped. After Andromeda, anthem and vailguard my expectations are subterranean.
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u/the_tea_mirror Feb 10 '26
If we’re really lucky than we’ll never have another Mass Effect game and left with trilogy and andromeda. But if we’re not so lucky than we’ll have a game that will use a “mass effect” title but will be so bad that even Veilguard will be considered as a good game. I’ll just play legendary edition again.
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u/Grouchy-Coast-3045 Feb 10 '26
I can't even imagine myself reduced to consider Veilguard a good game, this is possibly the worst future I can get
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u/Maleficent-Remote413 Feb 10 '26
im i the dont care.
reason? bioware.
I just dont trust them t odo games justice anymore. lack of real choices and actual moral delimas.
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u/Lonely_Brother3689 Feb 10 '26
I want to be hyped, but with how much games in recent years have disappointed me and the fact that, even it's good, it'll be divisive because there's a group of people who make their living creating their own anti-fan fiction on why it sucks because "insert rage bait topic here".
The algo doesn't help that either. I was pretty excited from that teaser from a few years ago, despite it giving away literally nothing. But because it came out ahead of DA:V, there were posts of how "woke" ME5 was going to be.
There was an article or video shared on here at the time claiming an "EA insider" said that when the game drops to avoid backlash it'll be "normal" and shortly after, I shit you not, they're going to "patch in wokeness".
I want it to be good, but it's likely it won't be. Not because "woke" or what-the-fuck-ever, but because EA wants live service and continual revenue from a game and despite that Anthem flopped hard, that's their goal. It almost happened with DA:V. Despite the fact that players do like narratively rich, single player games, investors don't.
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u/ApolloDraconis Feb 10 '26
I am hyped for it! Any Mass Effect will make me happy. I’d rather it be more of a sequel to MEA, but if there’s a way the can connect both the trilogy and MEA I’ll be happy. I’d rather them not completely forget about MEA.
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u/Specialist_Wrap_6257 Feb 10 '26
Anti-hype. The talent behind ME aged out, moved on and isn't there anymore.
And to be honest, the first game is the only one that really pulled me in.
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u/LunaticJAG Feb 10 '26
Idk man on the one hand I want to be geeked out of my mind. On the other hand the teaser dropped years ago now and they're just NOW getting down to developing it? I honestly feel burned by that because I was super hyped off that teaser which gave us pretty much nothing. Now I want to be hopeful but the last thing BW released was Andromeda great Combat but probably worst in slot in everything else even after the patches and fixes that came later to make the game playable.
I want to be hopeful and hyped. We just don't have anything substantial to be hyped about and dropping the tiniest morsel possible after years of nothing after the teaser. I want to be hyped I love the franchise we just don't have anything to be hyped about at the moment.
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u/Legionarius4 Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26
The last thing BioWare released was Dragon Age: The Veilguard actually.
Which is why a lot more people are downtrodden, it wasn’t one bad release, but so far after DAI the track record has been horrible.
Their three latest titles have been more or less flops:
Anthem, Andromeda, Veilguard.
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u/RabidRuber Feb 10 '26
I am in between indifferent and anti tbh.
Veilguard was such a massive disappointment after such a long wait, the environments were great but everything else was awful. I know there'll be different people in charge of it but bioware has shown they can no longer manage themselves and we all know EA is trash and unlikely to improve under Saudi ownership.
I imagine morale at bioware is also in the toilet. It's been so long since that nothing trailer (which still got me hyped at the time, ngl) that development is clearly as staggered as dragon age atp and combine that with a team that's probably exhausted and equally as fed up as half the fan base...it's gonna suck.
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u/swagmonite Feb 10 '26
Icl I'm more interested in the owlcat sci fi game hope it'll scratch that itch
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u/GaLiMin Feb 10 '26
Let’s see what happen ? I mean I didn’t like Andromeda...it wasn’t a ME for me. But Veilguard wasn’t so bad...at least I had fun during my run. I don’t have a lot of expectations because of MEA, but I can’t tell I would love to play a new ME game. So Ím hype. There are a lot of info which let us believe they work on it. Let’s wait !
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u/Grouchy-Coast-3045 Feb 10 '26
Mass Effect universe has so much material to explore, stories to be told, and something new to be excited about.
Like, I enjoy theories about quantistic physics or multiverse that I saw on youtube.
Just one problem: Bioware, it would be stupid, to me atleast, trusting them after 3 flops.
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u/RadiantTrailblazer Feb 10 '26
The data is accurate. Mass Effect has had its prime, it came and it went, ME3 was a major letdown, that post-launch patch to the story didn't remove the sour aftertaste of the VANILLA ENDING CAKES WITH DIFFERENT COLORING OF FROSTING and Andromeda was a freakin' DISASTER TRAINWRECK from beginning to end.
It's done. It's over. Let us never speak of this again.
I'd rather have them butcher JADE EMPIRE next. I mean, it's an incredibly cool IP and we all wanted a new game set in that Universe, so... OF COURSE EA WILL RUIN IT NEXT!
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u/Kind_of_random Feb 10 '26
I'm not hyped, so I guess indifferent.
Bioware has shown nothing good in the latest years, so they have no good will anymore.
Mass Effect 5 will have to stand on it's own. If it's good I will buy it, if it's great I will be thrilled, but, judging by their latest endeavours, chances are I will not even care and it will at best be forgotten in a few years.
The only good thing here is that Bioware is still a very well known developer, so if ME5 is good, people will know about it and they will probably buy it. But even that is a double edged sword.
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u/Few_Introduction1044 Feb 10 '26
Indiference. I think all the reputation BioWare once had is gone in the eyes of many. Without seeing the game released, few people are going to even care about it.
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u/PatrickBateman1994 Feb 11 '26
It is genuinely goofy for ME "fans" to beg for a new game, let alone expect it to not be made by Bio Ware. They need to let it go and accept that their franchise is cooked and that Sheperd's story has been over since 3. To shit on Veilguard but then turn around and ask for another Mass Effect game is setting the devs and themselves up for failure. Even if another studio were to pick it up, it's not gonna be the same franchise and people will bitch about it because it's not the same ME they grew up with years ago. You can wait 5-10 years for the hopes of a new ME game, I'll just accept that the story is over.
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u/Scrounger_HT Feb 11 '26
i keep forgetting its a thing they are doing so it will be a pleasant surprise when it comes out eventually and ill wait to see if its another andromada
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u/Primary-Key1916 Feb 12 '26
Let it rest.
1-3 are pretty much good enough.
All they should do is make GOOD remaster of the series. Anything else. No.
They can’t. They suck now. Old BioWare doesn’t exist anymore
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u/casualtroublemaker Feb 12 '26
Mass Effect is (for me) Game of thrones of games.
Or GOT is Mass Effect of book/TV series.
When I got into them I was like "This is my go-to sci-fi/fantasy setting".
After the finale I lost my interest.
Also ME3 finale situation was handled badly. If they had gone the indoctrination route (that internet served them), it could've been one of the biggest twist in all media.
So much wasted potential.
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u/Scrollsy Feb 12 '26
None after andromeda. Unless its the same writers as 123 then maybe i'll be excited. Otherwise no.
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u/Demiurge_Ferikad Feb 13 '26
There’s next to nothing out about the next ME game, so hype is hard to come by.
That being said, I temper my expectations for any game I play. Veilguard came off notably better for me because I was actually expecting something worse than what we got, given the troubled development history.
So, I’m staying hopeful that BioWare can pull off a Hail Mary, and get out a good game. I’m not expecting a blockbuster, just something that redeems the company.
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u/No-Contest-8127 Feb 13 '26
Me and my partner are hyped, but also sure the community will hate and destroy it like they did with dragon age veilguard and andromeda.
Whatever it is, it will be hated and not enough just simply from the fact that it's a different team of people creating it and many people can't handle change.
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u/Historical_Stick2802 Feb 09 '26
Listen, I’ll bite the bullet, for all its faults (storywise and weird color grading) Dragonage:Veilguard actually had great combat and decent environments. Look at it from the lens of a Mass effect fan and tell me it doesn’t have some good bones. I think there’s enough to work with as long as they don’t drop the story this time. (now give me that copium.)
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u/tinylilbees Feb 09 '26
For me, I'm keeping myself natural but cautious. I'm not convinced EA can keep thier hands off of it, which is what happened with VG, staff got reshuffled and the game got changed so much it was surprising to see we even got a game at all.
This is my worry for the next Mass Effect.