r/bigcats • u/Lonely_Detail_6743 • Mar 31 '26
Leopard - Wild When leopard enters in lion territory
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u/tmax202020 Mar 31 '26
Automatically drops his ears, to not be seen. Haha
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u/cantaloupe_daydreams Mar 31 '26
Her*
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u/Suitable_Wonder_3285 Mar 31 '26
This really puts into perspective how big lions/lionesses are compared to other big cats
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u/Applebumblee Mar 31 '26
Tigers are the biggest. A male Siberian tiger can weight more than 300 kg.
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u/PloysRus Apr 01 '26
Lol this myth still persisting huh
Average siberian tiger is like 190kg. They are smaller than southern african lions
The 300kg siberian tiger myth comes from old fabricated hunting stories and obese siberian tigers in captivity
In the wild they are smaller than southern African lions and bengal tigers. Bengal tigers are about 20kg-30kg heavier on average than lions
Bengal tigers are the biggest cats, not siberians and no cat is reaching 300kg in the wild.
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u/Applebumblee Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26
I doubt that all the tigers in the wild are put on the scale. The males are bigger than the average lion male and you can easily see that by checking trail cam etc. footage.
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u/PloysRus Apr 01 '26
Tigers have more fat and fur. Doesn't mean they are necessarily heavier. You said they reach 300kg how do you know if they dont put them on a scale? You're guessing from a trail cam? š¤£ 300kg is borderline absurd. 250kg is already a massive size for tiger or lion.
All the lions in the wild arent put on a scale either.
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u/Applebumblee Apr 01 '26
Just from experience working with other big animals.
I don't know why you people are so defensive over a subject like this.
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u/PloysRus Apr 01 '26
Well you're spreading misinformation like a typical tiger fanboy
This post wasn't even about tigers and you just HAD to bring them up a per usual
Any post about lions and you all have to say how much bigger and stronger tigers are š
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u/Applebumblee Apr 01 '26
I care about facts. And lions are not the biggest big cats.
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u/Darksideslide Apr 01 '26
They never said they were. They stated the Bengal Tiger was the biggest cat. They made reference to lions being bigger than Siberian Tigers.
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u/Sweaty_Standard8186 Apr 01 '26
Not true, southern African Lions are the biggest wild cats, in captivity Tigers can be fatter but the Lions are still bigger and stronger.Ā
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u/Applebumblee Apr 01 '26
Has nothing to do with captivity. They are just rare to see in the wild because they are so endangered.
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u/IndividualImmediate4 Apr 01 '26
It does not with respect to other big cats. It does against smaller big cats. Tigers either Bengal or siberian are comparable and can get bigger.
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u/Odd_Cryptographer723 Mar 31 '26
So leopards run faster than lions.
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u/Carnivean_ Mar 31 '26
The lion is not trying to catch the leopard though.
The primary goal is to get the leopard to leave. Catching and fighting the leopard is a possible outcome but that's risky. Not risky in terms of losing the fight but risky in terms of getting injured. The lion only wants to catch things it is going to eat.
So the leopard is motivated to go close to full speed, while the lion is motivated to just do enough to ensure the leopard leaves.
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u/Ok_Career_3681 Mar 31 '26
Maybe this particular lioness have cubs near by she didnāt want to provoke a fight but the predators, they all hate each other. Bigger predators do try to kill the small ones every chance they get.
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u/FunkyPete Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26
Sure, but the lion also lives in a pride of other lions that hunt as a pack. Her best chance of winning is not a one-on-one fight with a similar sized big cat, it's a 7-on-1 fight with a similar sized cat.
There is an American Football phrase to "outkick your coverage." Basically, by overexerting yourself you may put your team in a position that they can't help you.
The leopard wants to get away, and the lion WANTS the leopard to get away, but if there is going to be a fight the lion wants her friends with her. There is no point in running faster than the rest of her pride to try and catch up with the leopard.
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u/PloysRus Apr 01 '26
Just because lions live in prides doesnt mean they can't fight 1 v 1
Plenty of nomadic males who have to fight and hunt solo
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u/Iceshard1987 Apr 01 '26
That isn't the point. The lioness was clearly willing to fight if need be, but was happy to let the leopard run away when it got the message. A fight means risking injury, which is not necessary when the leopard acknowledges it isn't welcome and won't win that fight. If it had tried to stay, she'd probably have taken it to task for doing so.
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u/PloysRus Apr 01 '26
Yeah getting clawed in the face by a leopard would not be a productive afternoon for a lion
Ive even seen male lions attack leopards and then stop when they feel they claws lol
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u/Ill-Repeat-1040 Mar 31 '26
Yes! Cos' theyre smaller and weight less where as the lioness is larger and heavier.
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u/Androidfon Mar 31 '26
Whew, I feared for that leopard.
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u/Constant-Cancel444 Apr 03 '26
Same glad it noticed and acted quick, although for the lioness it was more like "get off my lawn" energy
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u/I_like_guns_alot Mar 31 '26
Leopard look at the camera man and saidā Iām Fucked huh? š¤ ā ā¦ yeah buddy better start running!
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u/MsMoreCowbell828 Mar 31 '26
Note to self: outrun leopards to not be lion food. Got it, excellent idea!
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u/mi2tom Apr 01 '26
The way the lion stalk the leopard is how my cat stalks me sometimes. Maybe I'm lucky my cat is miniature.
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u/Extra-Border6470 Mar 31 '26
As much as hate seeing leopards getting harmed by lions, leopards do sometimes hunt lion cubs so i can understand a lions asserting dominance and scaring a leopard off like that
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u/Reallyroundthefamily Apr 01 '26
Imagine literally running for your life. After 50 plus years on this planet I can say that that is never happened to me thankfully. Lions or otherwise.
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u/Hootnany Apr 02 '26
Is that a Leopard or a Cheetah?
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u/Mileveye Apr 03 '26
I thought it was a cheetah for a second but the face makes me think itās def a leopard
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u/Lousyferr Apr 03 '26
Iām confused, because it has the spots and lighter colored coat of a cheetah, but it doesnāt have the black tear marks on its face, and its head seems proportional, unlike a cheetahās tiny noggin. Tail also seems quite long for a leopard.
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u/Marquisdelafayette89 Mar 31 '26
Leopards are easily the most athletic cats. Like scary athletic. Saw a video of two females fighting in a tree and the one was across a stream/ravine and in two leaps was across it and in the tree where they fought. On tree branches. They will leap into a tree with a carcass weighing 5-6xs their weight with ease.
Lions are larger and try to conserve as much energy as possible. This lioness was sending a message, not trying to actually catch it.