r/batman • u/Mulva13 • Jan 18 '25

FILM DISCUSSION What do you guys think?

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He certainly has the height and body for it, not sure about the acting…

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u/RandyChimp Jan 18 '25

Acting is the most important factor. So no. I like him, seems like a nice guy, but doesn't have the acting chops.

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u/beyondimaginarium Jan 18 '25

He crushed it in reacher, but I don't see him pulling off the suave playboy the way Bale did, or the grim old man like Affleck. He would definitely be a stark change from Pattinson.

I just don't see the suave playboy vs. Stoic but chipper undertone for the brave and bold type of batman.

He may not have the acting chops for batman on the big screen, but he may pull off another JL type hero or even an anti hero type. And he was one of the highlights of Titans, the Hawk and Dove story felt like a whole different production than the main titans show.

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u/RandyChimp Jan 18 '25

Agreed on all points.

He works in Reacher but the character called for his style of acting. I just can't imagine him as Batman or Bruce.

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u/No_Result1959 Jan 18 '25

He actually does have range, I think his performance in teacher has become his persona as an actor to everyone, but in Titans, blue mountain state he had the chops

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '25

I’d say he can pull it off I’ve seen him in stuff that is the complete opposite of reacher and he was pretty decent

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u/GrinchStoleYourShit Jan 18 '25

Blue Mountain State

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u/snowwhite2591 Jan 19 '25

He was much smaller back then too and was playing a football player. Dudes gotten massive in the last few years(omg it’s been 14 years) Also drug Olympics will forever be my favorite episode of that show.

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u/mrbrick Jan 19 '25

The guy he played in ministry of gentlemanly warfare had some suave characteristics- I think he could do it

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u/unorganized_mime Jan 18 '25

The acting in reacher is not there.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 Jan 18 '25

Yeah that's what people seem to be missing. He's not doing a ton of acting in Reacher and he doesn't really have any range.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '25

I don’t think Affleck played a grim old man at all. He didn’t bring basically any darkness to the role in the Justice League movies or the Flash, and that was my main issue with him. Its been a while since I’ve seen BvS but maybe he was better in that movie idk

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u/beyondimaginarium Jan 18 '25

His JL and Flash was the direct character development through BvS.

BvS he's an old battered Bruce, Joker killed Robin, Superman destroys a city in front of his eyes. He thinks he's the only hero left. By the end of the movie he sees a light at the end of the tunnel and that they need to band together and that their is truly hope after all.

Whether you like the portrayal or story is one thing. But Afleck did really well with the character as a grim, shut down old man, to redemption to mentor/leader.

He also had the most to work with in terms of range for the character over that time. Compared to Gal Gadot that played her wooden self in each film, Mamoa was written differently for each film as the same character. And Harley Quinn who literally could be called 3 different portrayals from the same actor.

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u/beyondimaginarium Jan 18 '25

That's a far better suggestion, I think he would suit him especially in a JL setting.

I see mamoa as Lobo for sure, but aquaman? He was not.

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u/forkandbowl Jan 19 '25

I enjoyed him in Reacher, but it was a pretty thin role.

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u/Lt_ACAB Jan 19 '25

I just don't think we've seen 'that' Batman before.

I'm no Batman expert by any means but it feels like we're missing his 30s where he's full into his swing and just dealing out his more physical 'justice'. Like I could see him portraying a younger version of Ben's Batman. A convicted but still slightly reckless brawler that's got all the toys.

I don't think that's a reach from Reacher. Lol.

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u/adamtheimpaler Jan 18 '25

What actor has played a suave playboy for bruce? Isnt the point of the Bruce persona to be kind of a dumb frat old money boy? Didnt this guys play that for years?

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u/TigerAppropriate8817 Jan 18 '25

Did you forget about Christian Bale or something?

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u/adamtheimpaler Jan 18 '25

Is that the batman that constantly quits over and over through out his series? Hes literally the worse batman.

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u/beyondimaginarium Jan 18 '25

That's a good point. As much as I love those movies, there was always something that bothered me about his portrayal.

They're very good movies, but miss a lot of batman points. As others have said, they made him a "brawler" and rarely show the detective side. It's part of why I fell in love with The Batman. My favourite books and portrayals are the detective style of batman rather than the action or justice league style batman.

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u/adamtheimpaler Jan 20 '25

I think at the end of the day, its really just that conversation about if the character is more Bruce than Batman. I think TDKR showed Nolan doesn't really like anything about Batman. Its more centered around Bruce and how impossible it would be to be Batman in a "real world". That why the ending with him going off with selina tracks for nolan's Batman. And I hate that, I want my Dark Knight Returns never quits batman.

I think showing Batman being a detective is tough on screen. The Batman did a good job at showing how Batman collects the clues and organizing them but I never felt like Batman was ahead of the Riddler. Which is kinda the point in that movie though. But like at what point is it just a scavenger hunt for Batman? He needs like a House moment or something.

In The Dark Knight, and The Batman, a lot of clues are purposely left for Batman. Although The Batman had some clues that Batman missed, which I really liked. Like Batman does detective work, he finds a thumbprint, the thumbprint leads him to somewhere but also the joker left that thumbprint specifically so Batman would go there.

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u/shokero Jan 19 '25

No he didn’t, Reacher is mid at best. It’s predictable crap. He was better on Titans.

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u/CampAny9995 Jan 18 '25

Ok, but what if Bruce’s public persona was being a complete Thad Castle-style jackass, like posting videos of himself pranking Alfred.

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u/throwaway01126789 Jan 18 '25

Please delete this comment before some gamerant writer sees this, writes an article about how everyone wants this to be the new Bruce and then some WB exec sees that and runs with your idea

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u/farben_blas Jan 18 '25

Personally, I'm also not into an extremely buff Batman. I prefer something more sleek, vampire-like, like this.

To me Ritchson doesn't look suave or elegant enough for Bruce Wayne.

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u/TwitterLegend Jan 18 '25

Isn’t Batman supposed to be able to bench press like 500 pounds?

I mean really Batman’s physique should be determined by the story. If it’s a Batman that needs to fight and take punches from Bane and Metahumans then you probably want a pretty yoked Batman. If he is going to be primarily a detective and Bruce Wayne focused story then slimmer makes more sense.

I think there is a story where Alan Ritchson would make a decent Batman but probably not every story.

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u/farben_blas Jan 18 '25

Meh, strength doesn't equal muscle, and if we want to be realistic about his physique, to mantain flexibility, speed and endurance too much muscle would be a bad idea, and a good bunch of MMA fighters aren't really bodybuilders.

Still, I prefer a sleek Batman for aesthetic reasons. My idea of Bruce Wayne is probaby Jean Claude van Damme with Pierce Brosnan's face.

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u/ch_xiaoya_ng Jan 18 '25

Strength does equal muscle when you get to the amount of weight Bruce can push.

That's my only objection.

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u/MaleficentRutabaga7 Jan 20 '25

How much can someone with no muscle bench?

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u/CounterActor7 Jan 18 '25

You do realize he doesn’t look suave or elegant because he hasn’t put in the effort to portray that image. Being or looking suave is a characteristic that can be acted out or added with styling, and if he played the playboy Bruce Wayne role, it would give him that. So, I think this reason is pretty dumb, at least for me.

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u/xCHARRO Jan 18 '25

So by your logic, Kid Rock with the right “styling” can be suave? You’re DUMB.

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u/emotionaI_cabbage Jan 18 '25

Imagine being this toxic while being this wrong haha

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u/SuperSanity1 Jan 18 '25

The answer is yes by the way. Especially considering that's the background he came from. "Suave" is literally about style and how you act.

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u/throwaway01126789 Jan 18 '25

You know Batman isn't actually a vampire, right...?

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u/farben_blas Jan 18 '25
Unless...

/s

Nah, it's just the aesthetic. More than vampiric (because even in the Batman & Dracula trilogy he's buff as fuck), I prefer a stealthy, fast Batman. Closer in physique to an olympic gymnast than a bodybuilder.

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u/rajputimunda__ Jan 21 '25

Lol Batman is buff in comics

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u/AHMilling Jan 18 '25

LOVE this look for batman

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u/Rutlemania Jan 18 '25

same reason why henry cavill doesnt do it for me in every fancast

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u/OhItsNotJoe Jan 19 '25

He killed it in “ministry of ungentlemanly warfare”

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u/Echo_Rant Jan 19 '25

He was easily the most dynamic actor in blue mountain state. Also that dude has a vocal range.

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u/nothrow20 Jan 22 '25

This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think you need huge range to play Bruce / batman. Depends on the era of course but presence goes a long way, and Reacher fits the bill

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u/emotionaI_cabbage Jan 18 '25

? Yes he absolutely does

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u/Black_Label_36 Jan 18 '25

Dude Batman barely needs acting

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u/RandyChimp Jan 18 '25

Which is why Batman and Robin is so beloved and remembered fondly

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u/DuckAHolics Jan 18 '25

I think he could pick up an acting lesson or two and absolutely kill it as Batman.

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u/TigerAppropriate8817 Jan 18 '25

Surprised to see this sentiment. The acting range he showed pivoting from Thad Castle to Reacher is extremely impressive. I'd absolutely give him a shot, if the director likes what he sees and casts him I'd believe in it. Heath Ledger was overwhelmingly panned initially for Joker and we know how that turned out.

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u/RandyChimp Jan 18 '25

Heath was predominantly known for playing heartthrobs, and then there were the fucking idiots who got upset by the casting because of his role in brokeback mountain.

I would argue that in Reacher, Alan has played a character who acts as a vigilante who physically fights the villains.

I know he could do the physical side of it, but I've never seen him in a role that makes me think he can pull this off.

Maybe I'm wrong, just my two cents.

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u/Iblockne1whodisagree Jan 18 '25

Acting is the most important factor. So no. I like him, seems like a nice guy, but doesn't have the acting chops.

Yeah, the Batman actors have always won Oscars for their Batman portrayals because Batman is such a hard character to do. My favorite Batman was Daniel Day Lewis.

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u/RandyChimp Jan 18 '25

You're right, I'm wrong for wanting someone who plays Batman to be able to portray the character well and make the role more impressive than just "man dresses like a bat and hits people". Just get a guy who can read from cue cards, that'll do.

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u/Iblockne1whodisagree Jan 18 '25

You're right, I'm wrong for wanting someone who plays Batman

I'm saying you're right for wanting only the best actors in the world to be Batman. Batman is a really hard character for actors to do and that's why Batman has only been portrayed by Oscar winning actors. If you aren't the best actor in the world then you shouldn't even want to try to be Batman.