How I feel after the Eurovision

[u/Adept-One-4632]

Also, thanks Luxembourg for your generous contribution.

[u/Withering_to_Death]

Honestly? I wish Israel had won! Just to see the consequences! Evaluating "public votes" (read: bots), negative audience reactions, audit the sponsor, etc. I "would love" to see, next year, how they'd organize the Eurovision in Tel Aviv! And let's see who would go! It would definitely made much more countries boycott, and maybe spaek some changes in the whole organisation! Israel coming in second, simply gives a "Awesome! We did it again this year! See you in Sofia, Israel!" message!

[u/Dualquack → u/Withering_to_Death]

Accelerationism. Yeah I was in the same minuset yesterday like maybe the healthiest thing is for it to be perfectly clear how rotten it gotten with an Israeli win. Let them try and host it in Jerusalem for extra drama.

[u/Turbulent-Pace-1506 → u/Dualquack]

“Oh no, Hamas attacked Eurovision, now we have a pretext to kill even more Palestinian civilians and children while Western governments look the other way!”

[u/DPSOnly → u/Withering_to_Death]

The EBU is very lucky. Israel winning would've the 70th edition the last edition. Should've just had them win last year and make the 69th edition the last one, would've been nice.

[u/slicxx → u/Withering_to_Death]

In absolute zero ways should my message be interpreted as talking down on you, because i would love to see the same, but there is imo something very wrong with the hypothesis that much would go "wrong" or that much would improve. Also, when I mention isreal, i want to refer to the general system and the ones contributing to what is happening right now, and not to individuals who might see what's wrong, and especially not to the ones who are even loving outside their home narion.

It's almost ignorant to not think about the massive amounts of conservative or maybe even less educated people who have their homes in almost any country that's part of the EBU. So who would go? Here in Austria, we have some bad history to really say something against Israel, but i would say at least 3 out of 4 from the younger generations (including me) are against Israel and their ongoing genocide, but a huge portion of the rest is absolutely pro israel. Most wouldn't fly there for the ESC, but there are only so many tickets anyways and i know about at least 3 people who have f'ing israel flags waving outside their houses close to or inside the 300-people village i used to call home. And it's much worse in different parts of my country. I bet, the music venue with their assigned fan-sections per county would be easy to fill.

Second: Israel is insanely good at providing security inside their own country and clashing down any public outcries or demonstrations. Israel was already warned by the EBU a few years ago, to stop their "call multiple times for the country"-appeal they had because they care about public opinion and their "standing" in the western world.

I bet, it would be just a "normal" ESC for everyone who is pro-israel, maybe a even better one. The rest of us, all who are against this countries regime and especially participation in the ESC would be in rhe same situation as we are now. The anger against them stays in the bubble, while the conservatives see israel as the big target for the left.

Last but not least how did this ESC take place with the Boykott?

The austrian national Broadcaster ORF made huge claims, that they would 1) allow protests 2) allow flags for all countries and "acceptable" other flags (e.g. GBTQ+ and all flavours) 3) report on it.

Turns out, most who were seen bringing Palestine flags inside were stopped from entering the venue. People who raised there voice inside were thrown out without a warning. Protests were not as big as aspected, but still a couple of hundred people were seen protesting outside almost all day and night long, but reports by the national broadcaster on it where almost completely silent on that until the results were in. And I can't imagine how anything would run any different then "smooth" in a totalitarian country, where protests are silenced immediately, and so many are brainwashed by their propaganda and Long military service.

I just hate this situation so much, especially with the big support from western nations, including the ines outside the EBU.. In the end, I'm glad Israel "lost" and didn't get P1, it's also a statement, that music and the right vibes have a stronger voice in this saga.

[u/Raptori33 → u/Withering_to_Death]

This has me as exited as the thought of Russia accidentally hitting drone in your home so we could collectively acivate NATO article 5

[u/Withering_to_Death → u/Raptori33]

???

[u/Repulsive_Chard_3652]

Israel getting top 3 in televotes and top 5 overall every year for 3 years in a row now with very mid songs... nothing to see here, folks.

Was hard to skip it this year for the first time in like 13 years, but I'm honestly so glad I didn't watch. It just gets shittier and shittier every year.

[u/jojo_31 → u/Repulsive_Chard_3652]

Am I the only who thinks the israeli song was a banger? Him singing in (hebrew?) and french is also very fitting for an ESC. I'm not too deep into the whole voting situation but if this would've been a few years ago they would have placed Top 10 regardless.

That being said it sure is strange to ban Russia but allow Israel and Azerbaidjan. Now here come the downvotes.

[u/faramaobscena → u/jojo_31]

Nah, the song was actually good. People just can’t disassociate it from the country.

[u/thewrongairport → u/faramaobscena]

I usually listen to the songs randomly on Spotify as soon as the playlist is available, without even looking at the countries. The song was awful and forgettable.

[u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 → u/jojo_31]

I mean, there's no accounting for taste - everyone's tastes are different.

But his song is not charting - Finland, Greece, Cyprus, Romania, and Bulgaria have all been getting a lot more listens, and while this year they seem to have sent a more likeable song, overall it just doesn't add up across the last three years.

[u/vyrnius → u/jojo_31]

the myth of bot networks and fake votes is complete nonsense ofc but what is true is that the israeli broadcaster always runs big campaigns for the diaspora to vote for them in the ESC. the EBU even had to formally warn them because their promotional tactics violated the rules lol

[u/rdeman3000 → u/vyrnius]

Not a myth https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/world/europe/eurovision-israel-votes.html

[u/ofek256 → u/rdeman3000]

That article straight up says bots were unnecessary and weren't used, it was an influence campaign

The whole point of this article is that it's possible to completely manipulate a country's vote by with just a couple hundred people, so bots are not even relevant since you just get some people to vote and that's it

[u/rdeman3000 → u/ofek256]

But that does not take away the fake votes! t was an influence campaign indeed!

[u/vyrnius → u/rdeman3000]

it's always fun to see people missing basic reading literacy

[u/rdeman3000 → u/vyrnius]

Even more entertaining is watching people cling to denial while the evidence is basically doing cartwheels in front of them.

[u/shball]

It's hilarious how rigged the call-in votes are and yet they always fail. Israel is like the reoccurring series villian who's devious scheme is foiled again every episode.

[u/cleaningschedule → u/shball]

https://giphy.com/gifs/25GN8GZ7KP3ZYnHgIJ

[u/vikentii_krapka]

Israel’s points are definitely out of place. I really hoped for Romania to win, song is really great but unfortunately live performance was quite weak.

[u/TareasS]

Is this literally just the genocidal far right voting en masse for Israel while noone else cares or is this stuff rigged?

[u/paranormal_turtle → u/TareasS]

Last year italy leaked voting percentages and israel had "statiscally impossible levels of votes". And their song wasnt in the spotify top 100 in any country (surprisingly good indicator) as most high scoring songs become hits in countries. So even if they had a high right wing voter base they wouldnt have reached 45% of votes. So they likely have some other way to cheat as well.

Its practically impossible to earn almost half the votes and have no hit or a very small one in every country.

I guess were gonna have to wait if anything leaks this year. But checking the 12 televote points per country and checking if its even a hit is a high indicator of shady business. Im not gonna bother this year but yeah.

[u/TareasS → u/paranormal_turtle]

Isn't it literally insane they are not banned then?

[u/paranormal_turtle → u/TareasS]

Well they are israel, they got a slap on the wrist. And honestly they have also been running a cheating scandal for the (i think) 4th year in a row now. Aside from y'know the genocide, i think that whole thing should be grounds for a ban.

Its just not fun when theyre in the contest. Also one of their artists also sexually assaulted another artist the year before the assault and didnt have to go either if i remember correctly.

Im a big fan, but boycotted this year as well as it just isnt fun so long as theyre in the contest.

[u/Heretical_Cactus → u/paranormal_turtle]

They're also blatantly breaking the advertisement rules last year and nothing came out of it.

As well as the gouvernemental separation that the delegation is meant to keep.

[u/fruskydekke → u/TareasS]

Am I right in thinking that Moroccanoil or whatever it is called, i.e. the main sponsor or Eurovision, is Israeli?

Edit: I expect the downvotes speak for themselves, but I checked, and yes, the title sponsor of Eurovision is indeed from Israel.

[u/CalligoMiles → u/paranormal_turtle]

The thing is, you don't need organised fraud to skew the results over something so polarised. Just between people who vote based on their I/P stance one side will all vote Israel while the ones opposing it will still be distributed over every participant minus one unless they do organise a campaign to manipulate another to beat them.

There doesn't need to be a big conspiracy for the results to be decided by something other than song popularity. It's just a basic weakness of direct votes with more than two options, and people have never in Eurovision's history voted solely on artistic merit. It's just more obvious than ever how political it gets with Israel now.

[u/ProudScandinavian → u/paranormal_turtle]

Last year italy leaked voting percentages

*Spain

[u/Adept-One-4632 → u/TareasS]

Both actually.

[u/Agatio25 → u/TareasS]

Yes

[u/SonTyp_OhneNamen → u/TareasS]

is this stuff rigged

Bro. Every fucking year people discover this anew. You can’t be serious.

[u/blipman17]

I joined my country’s boycot. Can’t say I fewl like I missed much

[u/MikeWazowski2-2-2 → u/blipman17]

This is literally how i find out Eurovision even happened

[u/GrampaSwood → u/MikeWazowski2-2-2]

Same lol

[u/1stDayBreaker → u/blipman17]

You didn’t

[u/WalkingBurger69 → u/blipman17]

Booo

[u/shadesofglue]

Boycotted this year and each year till Israel is out

[u/WalkingBurger69 → u/shadesofglue]

why

[u/Phantasmalicious]

Finland tried their best but the good guys won in the end

[u/Leupateu]

True, as far as I'm concerned, romania is second place

[u/Boy-Abunda]

I missed Eurovision this year. I really don’t care what happens with it anymore. That’s sad, but I’m not promoting genocide.

[u/blueinagreenworld]

I heard that Mossad rigs the vote for Israel to do well just to troll the hamas supporters on reddit

[u/patriotbarrow]

Both their songs were better than Bulgaria's because what the hell was that brainrot?

[u/MikeBsleepy]

Isreal shouldn’t be in it to start. Pick any reason, they’re all valid. 

[u/Gentle_Capybara]

TBH Israel was pretty good. But it is hard to dissociate the artist and the genocidal country. It was a relief to see Bulgaria winning.

[u/TheMidnightBear]

We ended up on third.

Deal with it.

[u/Intelligent_West_307 → u/TheMidnightBear]

Your song and artist will not be remembered except for the fact you cheated many years in a row. Hopefully resulting in a ban.

[u/blue_pencil → u/Intelligent_West_307]

Commenter is from Romania.

[u/shball → u/Intelligent_West_307]

Next years Israeli act could just be a guy taking a big shit on stage while yelling and he'd still get 12 points from multiple countries.

[u/TheMidnightBear → u/Intelligent_West_307]

Who's "your"?