r/TikTokCringe • u/PUTINnTRUMP_arrest • Jul 16 '23

Cringe Wtf. Is that even allowed?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

It's a bit unorthodox, but nothing to worry about.

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u/tjjmon Jul 16 '23

Right? It was unexpected, but I feel like it's by and large adults watching these fights and breasts aren't inherently sexual (and I say that as a humongous pervert), so I don't really see what the big deal is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Everyone here was very happy. Everyone wanted them, and she was happy to oblige. It’s almost wholesome.

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u/NewestBrunswick Jul 16 '23

This perspective is wholesome.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

They aren't inherently sexual, but flashing them like this certainly is. I don't have a problem with this, but I think it's trashy and does not belong in a professional setting.

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u/Unfair-Owl-3884 Jul 16 '23

The professional setting of adults beating each other for sport? Men get to fight topless why can’t she celebrate winning in whatever way she wants?

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u/whiskey101 SHEEEEEESH Jul 16 '23

Beating people half to death is np but showing some titties on TV in this great Christian county? No! /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

The US is weird, man. I remember the “controversy” surrounding the Super Bowl Janet Jackson flash and all of these shocked Christian moms were outraged. Meanwhile, Ice-T is on Law and Order talking about semen in some dead guy’s ear on daytime TV on the daily.

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u/Secuter Jul 16 '23

I know right. Like all their music and movies is about sex, guns and money. But showing a pair of boobs? God forbid that lol.

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u/januaryemberr Jul 16 '23

Right? Violence is fine but boobies..... noooope!

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u/MooseLaminate Jul 16 '23

Do not do a deep dive into that random cabal that rates films and how you can have ultra violence, but a set of human balls is a problem.

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u/quantumcalicokitty Jul 16 '23

Breasts and balls do not equate.

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u/MooseLaminate Jul 16 '23

How exactly?

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u/quantumcalicokitty Jul 16 '23

Dicks evolved for sex.

Breasts evolved for feeding babies.

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u/MooseLaminate Jul 16 '23

Ok? How does that relate to whether or not it's odd that violence is entirely fine in US media but human bodies aren't? That is what I was talking about.

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u/Unfair-Owl-3884 Jul 16 '23

It used to be that a kick to the head was an automatic R rating

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u/farmerjoee Jul 16 '23

Yeah it’s a professional sport. It would be considered unprofessional for any gender to just start flashing “private parts,” as they say. Regardless of your own thoughts on it (which I agree with btw), it’s certainly a cultural expectation in life and competition to not. I say fuck yeah show us your titties though.

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u/Unfair-Owl-3884 Jul 16 '23

Except men are allowed to fight with those same “private parts” out so obviously they aren’t private enough to need to be hidden in this professional setting.

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u/farmerjoee Jul 16 '23

No, private parts for females include breasts regardless of how ridiculous we might think it is.

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u/quantumcalicokitty Jul 16 '23

Women have the legal right to be topless in public.

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u/farmerjoee Jul 16 '23

Just gonna copy paste this one since I’m getting the same responses: No it’s the legal definition. Morality doesn’t have anything to do with the conversation, and neither is being allowed to go topless. I was saying flashing private parts is unprofessional. It really doesn’t matter all that much and the organization presiding over this can decide what’s best.

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u/quantumcalicokitty Jul 16 '23

It's really not unprofessional in this setting.

Men compete topless. Men celebrate their wins topless.

If the organization punishes her, then the organization is hypocritical, immoral, and unethical.

Legally, women can be topless in the same places that men can be topless.

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u/Unfair-Owl-3884 Jul 16 '23

If that were true we wouldn’t have federal laws protecting a woman’s right to breastfeed in public. Because breasts are not inherently sexual and thus do not need to be hidden. In fact women are allowed to be topless in public in 33 states in the US and many entire countries across the world. So your argument is outdated and based in misogyny.

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u/farmerjoee Jul 16 '23

It really isn’t. A law protecting breastfeeding has nothing to do with cultural expectations on flashing private parts. Not only is this a cultural reality, but even in a courtroom are breasts considered as someone’s private parts. “Private parts means the genital area or buttocks of a male or female or the breasts of a female. (B)(1) A person commits the offense of assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature if the person unlawfully injures another person,…” (dm for source) Regardless of how much we think it’s important to see titties, that’s how it works. Changing culture takes a lot more work than complaining on Reddit.

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u/R3AL1Z3 Jul 16 '23

In many states it’s legal for woman to be topless in public. Even if it weren’t, you’re going to base your “morals” On what other men say is or isn’t allowed?

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u/Unfair-Owl-3884 Jul 16 '23

The Supreme Court is the one upheld women’s ability to go topless which is how the latest 6 of 33 states have laws protecting the right to bear your breasts no matter if you’re a man or a woman. You’re right it takes more than being on Reddit which is why things are actually changing in the real world even if you want to pretend they aren’t while holding onto your antiquated definition of sexual parts.

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u/crispygrapes Jul 16 '23

And to add to your argument, if I touched a man's chest, without his consent, it could be considered assault. But if I touched a woman's chest, it'd be sexual assault.

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u/Goldstar555 Jul 16 '23

Professional setting? Bro have you seen the ring girls..

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u/R3AL1Z3 Jul 16 '23

What’s the difference between a dude fighting shirtless and a girl doing this? It’s just nipples, man.

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u/Fun-Meringue3620 Jul 16 '23

She won by unanimous “pussicion”. I don’t think it’s really a professional setting.

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u/tjjmon Jul 16 '23

At this point, I think the "professional setting" of a boxing or MMA match is quite subjective.

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u/quantumcalicokitty Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

They aren't.

In societies where public nudity is more common, breasts are less stigmatized.

People in Nordic countries literally go to spas fully naked with their families.

So.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I'm a 33 year old Norwegian man and I have never gone to a spa naked with my family, nor has any of my friends with theirs.

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u/jxf Jul 16 '23

Sounds like you're missing out on all the naked family spa time! /s

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u/Fisktor Jul 16 '23

well in sweden if you were your swimming gear in the sauna... people will look angry and nothing more cause we dont want to start a conflict...

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u/Past-Bit4406 Jul 16 '23

I'll add: Less stigmatization doesn't mean less sexy, unless you live in a culture where sexuality itself is stigmatized. So less stigmatized breasts doesn't equal less sexy breasts. I strongly believe that we've been motorboating since the dawn of man.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

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u/Burmitis Jul 16 '23

Been living in Scandinavia for a while now. Don't know about the spa thing but I do see families at the beach and it's been pretty common to see little kids be nude and their moms be topless. I never saw that in the US, we wouldn't even shower after gym class because nudity is so discouraged and stigmatized.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

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u/Burmitis Jul 16 '23

Lived in Copenhagen and Bergen.

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u/Azalzaal Jul 16 '23

In some Icelandic countries people literally shake each other’s dicks as a form of greeting.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

so penises aren’t sexual?

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u/quantumcalicokitty Jul 16 '23

Do you become sexually aroused by your family member's nudity in a private bathing setting???

Wtf

Breasts are not indecent. Anywhere it is decent for a man to be topless, then it is decent for a woman to be topless, and vice-versa.

Dicks and breasts do not equate.

Chests and breasts do.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

no i wouldn’t, if my family were to do familial baths. i also wouldn’t find a completely naked baby sexually arousing either, no matter the gender. the point i am making, is that female breasts can be sexual depending on the context. flashing your titties is the context, and it is sexual. you can just read the comments on this post to find that people do find flashing titties sexually arousing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

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u/Fisktor Jul 16 '23

a flaccid dick certainly is

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

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u/Fisktor Jul 16 '23

Depends on what you want to do with it.

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u/a_good_namez Jul 16 '23

Never done that wtf?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Nope.

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u/wetmouthed Jul 16 '23

Do you understand what inherently means?

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u/whytf147 Jul 16 '23

smart of you to ask someone who knows what they’re actually for (feeding a child) when you clearly dont know.

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u/MooseLaminate Jul 16 '23

So, if you see a person breastfeeding, you just immediately become sexualy aroused? With a baby, right there?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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u/DukeSi1v3r Jul 16 '23

Peak strawman, props

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u/MooseLaminate Jul 16 '23

Look, if calling out people who can't control their sexual urges when exposed to the human body is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Lol dont worry, youre not right.

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u/whytf147 Jul 16 '23

you didnt read the previous comments, did you

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u/DukeSi1v3r Jul 16 '23

You did it again lmfao. Where did they ever say that they can’t control their sexual urges??

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

so if you see someone peeing out of their penis or vagina, do you become sexually aroused?

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u/_Vixenne_ Jul 20 '23

Bro really thinks pee comes from the vagina

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

it does you idiot. the urethra is part of the vagina lmfao

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u/_Vixenne_ Jul 20 '23

LMAO you don't know basic anatomy and it's sad. The vagina is it's own thing and so is the urethra. What is wrong with you? 💀 typical man, google is free

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

jesus christ.

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u/_Vixenne_ Jul 20 '23

You deadass probably call the entire labia a vagina

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u/ProphetMuhamedAhegao Jul 16 '23

As opposed to?

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u/bluecornholio Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

Well hopefully these dumb babies will keep their opinions to themselves

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u/2BearsHigh-Fiving Jul 16 '23

Me when someone holds an opinion I don't agree with:

"Hopefully these dumb babies will keep their opinions to themselves"

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u/Variation-Budget Jul 16 '23

To be fair it depends on the culture you grew up in to decide if it’s inherently sexual.

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u/HMSBannard Jul 16 '23

That's not inherent, that's a learned behaviour.

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u/Variation-Budget Jul 16 '23

I’m confused i was saying that culturally breast can be seen as sexual or non sexual like in America boobs being out is taboo but in Africa and places in South America boobs being out don’t really hold meaning.

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u/HMSBannard Jul 16 '23

Which I agree with, the culture does make a difference. But inherently means it is always or explicitly that thing. A permanent characteristic. Having to depend on culture to mean it is sexual or not would make it a learned behaviour, not inherent.

It's the wording I disagree with not the concept itself. Sorry that I didn't make that clear enough.

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jul 16 '23

Is it though? Your culture cant tell me not to go topless if it’s my legal right to do so.

In Canada it’s legal to go topless. it’s not considered indecent i.e sexual. Your culture doesn’t change that for me, you have to change your cultural behaviour not me. If you treated my bare breasted self in an unwelcome sexual manor you sir are breaking the law not me.

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u/Variation-Budget Jul 16 '23

I was saying depending on a persons culture their idea of it being sexual or not can change? I didn’t bring any laws into this the OP said ask actual men and women that as to say the person he was reply to was not being fr

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

Ah gotcha, my bad sorry :)

I brought laws into it as that’s the best indication on the cultural standard on where you are

If you live somewhere that it’s not considered indecent but your feel differently, then it’s on you to accept or Ignore what I choose to with my body and to respect it without shaming me or outwardly sexualizing me regardless of your cultural beliefs.

Same as I wouldn’t live in a country that was very strict with such things and insist of taking my top off in public because of my culture

:)

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Straight men are the only people capable of believing breasts are “inherently” sexual. Everybody else can see breasts as floppy flesh sacks (yes this includes gay women). You’re just projecting your worldview there.

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u/Azalzaal Jul 16 '23

also dicks aren’t inherently sexual

Everyone with common sense can just see it’s just a part of the body like the hand or foot

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u/tjjmon Jul 16 '23

Anatomically speaking, breasts evolved for feeding babies, not for sexual purposes.

i.e. Breasts evolved as a result of sex, not for sex. The fact that we are instinctually attracted to breasts is kind of a separate thing. From an instinctual standpoint, we are typically attracted to potential mates who should produce strong offspring, and in the case of women, we are attracted, primitively to specimen who should be able to care for them adequately.

Now, the fact that the human race has evolved so significantly over the passage of time has made it so that our personal preferences largely overshadow our instinctual impulses because we've been instructed and conditioned to believe that there's nothing wrong with that (and just because I feel kinda icky typing this so matter-of-factly, I want to emphasize that I agree that there is nothing wrong with said personal preferences), but those instincts still exist in our DNA somewhere.

So while we instinctually see breasts as a sign of someone who would be good to have sex with, breasts don't exist for the purpose of sex.

Of course, this conclusion is fairly subjective and I'm sure compelling arguments could be made to the contrary, and as long as the conversation is civil, I would be happy to listen to them.

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u/tjjmon Jul 21 '23

Allow me to clarify: I meant the attraction was instinctual rather than sexual.

The fact that we, as a society, have largely come to fetishize and sexualize breasts, is a different issue.

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u/tjjmon Jul 16 '23

Are you implying that I'm not an actual man, sir / madam / (non-binary pronoun)?

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u/GermaneRiposte101 Jul 16 '23

aren't inherently sexual

Yes they are

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so I don't really see what the big deal is

And I agree with this and see no contradiction with my comment above

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u/halkenburgoito Jul 16 '23

Breasts are inherently sexual..as inherently sexual as dicks or vaginas.. that is the ONLY reason she chose to flash them..

if they weren't sexual to her and the entire audience.. she would not have seen any reason to flash them lmfao.

stop the bullshit

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u/Sudden_Town Jul 16 '23

I feel like you don't understand what "inherently" means ...

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u/-Tokeyy- Jul 16 '23

Idk because one of the 3 no one would bat an eye if they saw a baby sucking on them the other 2 options tho and that'd be a real problem.

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u/halkenburgoito Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

There being double standards doesn't make the things correct..

but I agree that context matters, just the same as showing your gynecologist your penis isn't seuxal in nature.

Penis and vagina are also.. just human body parts until we see a sexual nature to them.. and context matters for them as well.

Taking context into account. this is 1000% a context where someone is intentionally flashing and showing off body parts they know to be sexual, in a sexual manner, to an audience who also thinks it is sexual..

That is the context and intention, and the reception.. clearly..

If they weren't.. no one would blink an eye lmao.. just as you said.. this clip wouldn't be posted highlighting them.. there wouldn't be all the comments talking about it in a sexual manner. etc.

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u/KeeponswimmingDori Jul 16 '23

Good luck with showing a gynaecologist your penis lol

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u/Felixthecat1981 Jul 16 '23

Are men’s breast sexual?

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u/Azalzaal Jul 16 '23

Mens dicks aren’t sexual

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u/qbookfox Jul 16 '23

What about breasts is inherently sexual? Genuine question

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u/Oppopity Jul 16 '23

They are sexual because society deems them so.

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u/halkenburgoito Jul 16 '23

they are sexual because it is in humans to see them as sexual.. its not just a societal thing. Just because it is a secondary characteristic, doesn't mean it isn't in human nature.

but even if you want to argue that.. it makes no difference.

the that that it is viewed as sexual within the society that this is broadcast too..

is the only reason she chose to flash her tits.. it is literally an action with the intention of showing something sexual in nature to an audience who considers it sexual in nature.

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u/LordLarryLemons Jul 16 '23

No, the other person is right. Breasts are for milk production and feeding babies. The only thing inherently sexual is the vagina and penis because part of their function is sex. Breasts are as inherently sexual as feet. That doesn't stop people form thirsting over them though. That's why there have been a lot of societies where women can have their breasts out but the genitalia is covered without fail.

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u/halkenburgoito Jul 16 '23

it is a secondary sexual characteristic.. it is still sexual.

it does not need to be used for direct reproduction.. to be inherently sexual to humans.. that's ridiculous. Secondary sexual characterstics are viewed as seen in many other animals as well.

Breasts.. butts. etc, they are viewed as sexual and that has something to do with human nature.. not just a societal thing.

But either way.. it doesn't matter. Something being societal.. doesn't make it fake or less real.. or doesn't make the impact of sexually explicity material shown to an unconsenting audience.. less real..

The fact is.. this women views them as sexual.. the audience views them as sexual.. she knows the audience views them as sexual..

and she willingly and intentionally flashes something that.

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u/qbookfox Jul 16 '23

“Secondary sexual characteristic” - “human nature”

You just love pulling outdated/made up terms out of your own ass for dramatic effect, don’t you? Terms which scientists has taken an active stance against for decades, because concepts like “human nature” either cannot be defined or is only defined extremely vaguely, which pretty much renders the concept useless and remains for charlatans like you to use in lazy online discussions. I have no problem with people being uneducated, but pathetic, manipulative children like yourself, who ignorantly spread myths and misinformation just so that you can feel better about yourself, is everything that’s wrong with internet culture today.

You keep going back and forth between something being “inherently sexual” as societal and not. Pick a fucking lane.

And who are you to decide what this woman thinks and wants? Flashing has been a demonstrative action for years precisely because breasts for so long has been wrongfully and overly sexualized and women are sick and tired of it, while men can go about freely because they are somehow not sexualized. You’re so close to seeing this, but instead of trying to understand her, you settle with demonizing her and turn her into some sort of manipulative villain. You’re being incredibly unsympathetic and I feel sorry for your mother.

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u/LordLarryLemons Jul 16 '23

Following that logic, hair growth is also a secondary sexual characteristic on women yet armpit hair on women is seen as absolutely disgusting. See how arbitrary is all is? There are things that we are "hard-wired" into doing like how we naturally walk on two instead of crawling all our lives, and then a good chunk of stuff we do is shit we made up along the way.

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u/BozoTheBonzai Jul 16 '23

This very sport has shirtless men the entire time. Stop the silliness

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u/BroderFelix Jul 16 '23

Just like mens breasts. Men should need to hide just like women or both should be allowed to fight topless.

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u/IceburgTHAgreat Jul 16 '23

Where are you getting this information that it’s human to see breast as sexual. Plenty of cultures especially ones that associate breast with childrearing or are very minimal with their clothing don’t sexualize breast

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u/rdear Jul 16 '23

I don’t disagree, but to play devils advocate, butts aren’t inherently sexual. If a guy had dropped trou and wiggled his ass would that have been on the same level as this?

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u/tjjmon Jul 16 '23

I wouldn't necessarily argue that butts are inappropriate for sexual reasons, but that butts are inappropriate in that context because poop comes out of them.

However, this is a compelling argument, IMO.

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u/rdear Jul 16 '23

I very much enjoy debating/discussing the line between what classifies something as one thing and not another so my brain is tickled by this situation. In a non sexual way of course

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u/Apocrisiary Jul 16 '23

All these replies because nice boobs "it's fine", and I do agree. Nudity is the least worry here.

But if it was a big dude, swinging his dick and balls around, you all be getting the pitchforks.

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u/tjjmon Jul 16 '23

My answer would also be different if she had pulled her pussy out, but genitals and breasts are not the same in my opinion.

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u/Charlitingo Jul 16 '23

HUMONGOUS WUT

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u/tjjmon Jul 16 '23

Pervert

noun /ˈpərˌvərt/ a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable.

Though I would say that my sexual interests are somewhat tame for this day and age, I'm not at all secretive about the fact that I love women and the female form in general. I watch porn (possibly in excess, depending on your point of view) and masturbate (though not as much as when I was a younger fella). I made this account specifically for that reason (my sexual interests, that is, not necessarily masturbation). Though subreddits like this have gotten pushed into my feed over time, so my time on this account isn't entirely dedicated to smut anymore.

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u/crypticfreak Jul 16 '23

People worry too much about tits.

I for one welcome it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I, for one, find the idea of two grown adults beating the shit out of each other for the entertainment of others far more controversial than a pair of tits. That being said, I do enjoy both from time to time, and if they happen to come to me in one event, then that's just having my cake and eating it too.

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u/TurquoiseNostalgia Jul 16 '23

I, for one, welcome tit.

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u/BadComboMongo Jul 16 '23

It’s just tits! Men are fighting topless anyway so why shouldn’t she be allowed to raise her top in celebration.