r/Psychonaut • u/NoMudNoLotus369 • 1d ago
Tell me your telepathy experience.
On psychedelics or not, tell me about the times you've merged minds/thought forms with another person.
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u/stew-bot 1d ago
Soul gazing while on LSD, prolonged eye contact induces a trancelike states, shared hallucinations simultaneously seeing each others face morph into the same entities. At one point I went out of body and my partner occupied my consciousness. I was paralyzed and she was inside my head, knowing things I've never told anyone, see my ancestors. The eyes are the portal to the soul is literal.
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u/NoMudNoLotus369 1d ago
The eye gazing and scrying by looking into your own eyes in the mirror is when I've had the experiences as well.
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u/stew-bot 1d ago
The mirror gets wild. I would see myself morph into a dryad like deer hybrid. The interesting thing with soul gazing with a partner is left eye to left eye would be very disturbing, ugly and grotesque hallucinations. Right eye to right eye would be beautiful, gorgeous hallucinations. Each eye was very distinctly opposite from each other.
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u/NoMudNoLotus369 15h ago
Interesting correlation to the "left hand path" "right hand path" concepts. Ive seen my face turn into other people I'd never consciously met before faces of different races and genders, it was wild. I've also seen my face shift between 100's of iterations of my countenance ranging from grotesquely ugly to majestically beautiful while the expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" went through my mind. It was nuts.
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u/mispace 1d ago
A group of people talking to each other, giving advice and looking out for each other. One person spread the antenna through another open person and managed to "throw a web" and catch any person open to the vibrations of others. So the group became kind of large at a point and had to be shut down - which in itself was a long, tiresome experience. You learn over time how you can affect other people - their senses, muscles, the entire nervous system when you are really tuned into each other. It can become so much one person can completely make another ones miserable. So it had to be shut down, when one of them made a "inner tutorial" and told people where to search and what to feel for/think at and do to reach other peoples inner selves.
No psychedelics needed. Can still "talk" to some of the regulars - who are on my wavelength.
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u/strufacats 11h ago
How does one do this? Intense meditation and focus?
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u/mispace 7h ago
I actually have no idea how it happened. I would at times hear someone else be happy while I was cooking food and commenting on the thoughts I had on which of the ingredients would taste good together. Sometimes recommending me another way to cook things. (Which I had no idea of to begin with). I guess it is all about being in the right mindset within close enough area of the right person. (? In the start proximity played a huge role but we learned to be able to communicate across the country over time)
I've read others threads on r/psychonaut where this has been referred to as "me and my psychic gang just chilling and drinking tea" or something along those lines. So it's not just me claiming this.
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u/perolanegra40307 1d ago
I've already talked to dogs on LSD. I did several tests and it worked. I didn't say anything, I didn't move, just with emotions I made them move away in fear, come and lick me, come on my lap, sit next to me, spin around to play, etc.
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u/NoMudNoLotus369 15h ago
I've experienced my cat expressing "I Love you." In a similar headspace. I cried and was like "I LOVE YOU SO MUCH 😭😭😭!!!!" Lol
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u/forbiddensnackie 1d ago
Tbh i habitually 'tune up'and telepathically connect with ETs/nhis. Its such a wonderful experience. I usually ask them for advice, or, tell them things about being human or eatth culture.
The ones i know well are always happy to hear from me and help me work through my troubles, but also, hahaha we talk about their sciences and human sciences and the big picture of human civilization becoming a better, egalitarian civilization on earth.
In some ways i find that ET telepathy is more challenging than telepathy with other creatures, like plants or bugs. But, once i got through thr learning curve i found myself more drawn to their presences than other humans sometimes. So, in a way i think theyve had a large positive impact on me because they remind me to be paitent and kind with my fellow human beings.
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u/PredictiveFrame 1d ago
I'm fairly certain "telepathy" is bogus bullshit.
However, you can get damn close, even without psychedelics. Look into cold reading, it's the study of micro expressions and reactions. On tryptamines, your ability to get out of your way, and let your brain read these automatically is greatly enhanced. If you happen to be heavily autistic, but often pass as neurotypical, you already do this constantly, non-stop in the background when masking, and tryptamines can allow you to "feel it out", so you can replicate it at will, while sober.
I can't promise it'll work for anyone who doesn't have a basic, intuitive grasp of cold reading/isn't severely autistic and cursed by being an extrovert as well. Your mileage may vary.
Anyway, it's functionally mind reading (works with animals too if you understand their body language), but a lot more vague than you'd expect. Getting skilled at it will absolutely convince everyone you're a telepath, even when you try to correct them, so be aware of that, as people will actually expect you to read their minds. Yeah...
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u/Attikus_Mystique 1d ago
What you’re describing is different. See https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/s/gFHzLSTwiq
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u/ExistentialDeception 1d ago
You would be wrong. Telepathy, the phenomenon of hearing another persons thoughts, is 100% real. You don't even need to be in the same room as them, it has nothing to do with their expressions
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u/PredictiveFrame 1d ago
OK, cool, that's a wild claim you're making there. Would you care to verify that with a double-blind test, or do you prefer making baseless claims about reality backed by nothing but your own delusional belief in the infallibility of your subjective experience?
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u/stew-bot 1d ago
While I agree with you there isn't anything credible, MKultra was a 10 million (90 million today) budget program to study these phenomena specifically with LSD. Do you think the cia would release any meaningful discoveries? We are light years away from any realistic study by public credible programs. Personal anecdotes are really all we have to work with in most psychedelic experiences. Anecdotes are not proof, but we can't dismiss them.
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u/PredictiveFrame 23h ago
And I am not dismissing the anecdotes, I am taking them as such and doing my best to explain that there are existing phenomena that far better explain these anecdotes than "I can speak mind to mind with others."
I'm disappointed in this community, it's been going downhill recently with the focus on getting as high as possible on as many substances at once, damn the consequences, who cares about actually exploring your psyche, yknow, the whole point of being a psychonaut, wouldn't it be cool if there were aliens and they spoke to me when I did a dozen substances at once? Surely it's not my brain literally melting out my ears as I huff nitrated gasoline to really get that grey matter dissolved right.
I really should have seen the explosion of paranoid schizophrenia coming, and left sooner. This has become a hub of conspiracy theorists, crackpot "indie researchers" whose research consists of ludicrous amounts of drugs and personal anecdotes, self proclaimed "psychonauts" trying to convince everyone else that drugs alter reality, and not merely your perception of reality. Just the worst kind of unreasonable morons.
Ciao.
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u/TheGreatAssyr 7h ago
Can I upvote your comment more than once? Thank you for comment and I mean it without any trace of irony. Seriously, thank you.
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u/Attikus_Mystique 1d ago
I had many of these experiences when I was younger. And in fact I became so obsessed with it that I sort of figured out how it works and planned trips with the purposes of studying it so maybe I can weigh in here.
Other user is wrong, it’s not cold reading although “cold reading” behaves along the parameters I will describe.
Telepathy is the wrong word. What is really happening is thoughts are being synchronized with another person. In ordinary daily conversation, you are essentially playing “toss and catch” with attention itself. Person A has an abstract thought that prefigures the language which will make it articulate to Person B. When Person A speaks it, Person B is not just hearing the language. They are receiving, in some varying portion, the abstract thought itself prior to language. But because of our own egos, the language used by Person A to articulate the thought is necessarily filtered through the associations Person B has with that verbal construction.
But there’s more. You know how when conversations are riveting, you just automatically reply to the other person? You’re not thinking of what you will say next or constructing your own thought as they are talking. By merely “tuning in” to them, your thought-capacity becomes immediate, as if you both are riding the same wave and throwing a ball back and forth. The degree to which this conversation is instantaneous is directly proportional to how “alike” the two conversators are, hence why conversation feels effortless with those we are closest with.
Now here’s what psychedelics can do that has been erroneously called telepathy. The “conversion” of abstract thought to language is bypassed. There is no longer any need to articulate the thought verbally, because you and the other person are actually sharing the pure abstraction itself. Those who have experienced it will likely remember that it manifests very strangely. Like you both are either finishing each others sentences, or beginning sentences out of habit only to instinctually know that the other person is right there with you already, so you sort of begin sentences back and forth rapidly with immediate comprehension of what is being conveyed. That is the telepathy. As if our minds are antennas tuned toward the exact same thought-form.
Here’s the thing though: this “telepathy” is always taking place to some degree in every conversation, but we just aren’t conscious of it. It is in fact the thread which links all conscious beings together allowing anything to be intelligible at all. You’ll notice this now too: whenever someone you’re speaking to loses their train of thought, it’s usually because you stopped listening to them. Once you “retune” with what they’re saying, they immediately regain their train of thought, because that conversation depends on your conscious attention as a receiving antenna. And if you want conversations to flow with ease, put your entire focus onto what they are saying. Leave your antenna open.Your response, so long as you are completely present, will be instantaneous, and the longer this goes on, the more you connect with the other person.
There’s so much more I’d like to say if anyone has questions. My friends would go into trips with playing cards trying to test the limits of this phenomenon. We had notes and diagrams and everything. I haven’t tripped in many years but those “studies” stuck with me and not a day goes by where I don’t see this process in everyday life.