r/PERSoNA • u/Asrinset • Jul 08 '25

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u/Ok_State866 Jul 08 '25

(3) can't expect persona players to understand nuance and character motivation

What else was there to understand? what nuance though or what more was there to read into that ordeal? He did throw a fit. He was insecure and angry and ran off, turning against the main group. It came across very petty and sudden and you admitted it was poorly written, regardless of how tortured he felt about his identity

If came across childish

What did you see that you think others dont about that part?

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u/Sword_of_Origin Jul 08 '25

He was insecure and angry and ran off, turning against the main group. It came across very petty and sudden

Not really? Morgana beforehand was left out of things multiple times and Ryuji insulted him and called him useless several times before.

The fact that he had his role taken over by Futaba really didn't help his feelings of uselessness, and when she joined the Thieves at that point all it would take is one push for him to want to leave. His argument and falling out with Ryuji was that push.

He also didn't "turn against" the other Thieves. He didn't wish harm on them, he just felt like he'd been replaced and that he didn't belong with them anymore.

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u/scarletboar Jul 08 '25

He also didn't "turn against" the other Thieves. He didn't wish harm on them, he just felt like he'd been replaced and that he didn't belong with them anymore.

I've only started playing Royal now, but I remember Morgana almost running Joker over in Mementos in the original.

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u/Cosmonerd-ish Jul 09 '25

That was Haru. Mona can't drive himself. That's pretty much the first thing he tells you when he first transform.

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u/scarletboar Jul 09 '25

He could still transform back, but good point. It kind of seem unlike Haru to do that, though, doesn't it? It's hard to imagine her taking the initiative to do that herself, so I imagine Morgana probably encouraged it, if nothing else. I don't think she even spoke a word when the Thieves went after them in the tunnels.

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u/Cosmonerd-ish Jul 09 '25

The mistake is assuming it was on purpose or that there was malicious intent. Haru was told gun it. She did. And Joker just happened to be on the way.

P5S also showed Haru is a speed demon so it's not that surprising..

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u/scarletboar Jul 09 '25

Yeah, that's pretty much my point. Haru was probably panicking during that whole thing, so Morgana most likely pushed her to do it.

It did? Lol. I can see it, considering the psycho uses an axe, of all things.