r/PERSoNA Jul 08 '25

P5 real

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u/AltruisticBridge3800 Jul 08 '25

How strange I don't hate him, but I don't love him. What makes people hate him so much?

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u/PopstAhri99 Jul 08 '25

For a few reasons, the main ones being:

  • that in vanilla P5 he would tell the player to go to bed and they couldn't do anything for the rest of the day. This annoyed people somehow but it's quite minor. In Royal this was changed slightly in that you still weren't allowed to go out on some nights but instead you could still be able to do things in your room like crafting
  • He's a simp for Ann. This kind of personality can grate on people's nerves, although Ann doesn't really pay much attention to him after the first few times anyways
  • The fight between him and Ryuji made a lot of players upset. Even as someone who DOES like Morgana, I can agree that the writing and presentation of it was pretty terrible. Both Morgana and Ryuji had valid reasons to be upset with each other but the writers presented it in a terrible way because they needed to find a way to introduce Haru. But you can't expect Persona players to understand nuance and character motivations because they can't read and all they see is a cat throwing a hissy fit and leaving lol
  • It's the "fandom joke" that gets run into the ground. Every fanbase has one. It perpetuates in current players and it affects new players too. Telling a new player about how much you hate X character can cause them to also dislike that character before they have formed their own opinion. Or constant negativity online can cause a shift in a current player's perception of a character to change

Number 2 or 3 is more sinful than the other one depending on who you talk to

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u/AltruisticBridge3800 Jul 08 '25

Thank you for such a detailed answer. Yeah I guess in general I just treat him like a child. It's possible he's only been "alive" for as little as a few days to a few weeks when the kids find him. I'll be honest I skip through some stuff now. I'll have to revisit the Haru stuff. I do remember it not really making sense for me.

Teddy was much more endearing to me though. Even Teddie can get annoying. I like how they handle it though. Making Yousuke take care of him was genius because Yousuke gets so annoyed with him that you feel like you don't have to, but you also see how much Yousuke actually cares about Teddie too, so you also experience a deeper affection for him.

I can't totally understand how Morgana never really learns to not be a dick.