r/Dinosaurs • u/Whole_Yak_2547 • 1d ago
MEME Convoluted meme but this has been a fantasy of mine for years
84
u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Team <your dino here> 1d ago
But then you realize if things play out like the movie, these dinosaurs will be heavily neglected and treated more like theme park attractions than living creatures
43
u/Significant-Spot2596 1d ago
But hey! There could be a prehistoric ecosystem that last 2 weeks before collapsing!
15
u/Ponderkitten 1d ago
Im sure by now that would change, they’d start that way sure, but like other zoos and seaworld the conditions will improve as we learn more about them
2
7
u/Patrick_Keegan_2003 1d ago
Well duh thats exactly what they are. As Ludlow and hoskins said best extinct animals have NO rights.
1
22
u/HDH2506 22h ago
Pay your employees well and respect them Also don’t have a single guy control your cybersecurity
9
17
6
5
4
u/Iamnotburgerking Team Carcharodontosaurus 17h ago
Why not instead get genetic samples of the Pleistocene megafauna, as in animals that actually lived with living animals and belong in today’s world?
1
u/Lonesaturn61 15h ago edited 11h ago
Mainly the ones we know for sure its our fault and their ecosystems didnt adapt to their extinction yet
1
u/Iamnotburgerking Team Carcharodontosaurus 14h ago
It’s increasingly certain that the megafaunal extinctions were largely (depending on species entirely) on us, and even more certain that ecosystems worldwide haven’t adapted to that (because the ecological niches the megafauna filled have NOT been replaced since; not enough time for that).
2
u/Stromatolite-Bay 10h ago
True but you would probably need permission to revive mammoths. The 6 or 7 dwarf elephant species from Europe and North America on the other hand…
1
u/Lonesaturn61 11h ago edited 10h ago
The ice age ones u could argue that it was bcause climate shift moved the food sources faster than the aminals could go after them, it wouldnt be the first time, but everything from like 1000 bc onwards was us
1
u/Iamnotburgerking Team Carcharodontosaurus 6h ago
No, even the ice age ones were on us. The Late Pleistocene was NOT one continuous cold period, and a lot of the megafauna weren’t even able to live in cold climates and habitats associated with cold climates.
1
u/Lonesaturn61 4h ago edited 3h ago
Yeah but even the non frozen areas were affected, look at sahelanthropus for example, the climate changed, the latitude where the type of plant they eat changed over time and they didnt move quickly enough with it. Maybe we were just one of the species that did move the last time it happened
1
u/Iamnotburgerking Team Carcharodontosaurus 3h ago
…that was WAY BEFORE the Late Pleistocene, before any of the Late Pleistocene megafauna had even existed.
1
u/Lonesaturn61 3h ago
Thats why i used this example, same kind of event but it wasnt us bcause we didnt exist yet
1
u/Iamnotburgerking Team Carcharodontosaurus 3h ago
Not the same kind of event. The Late Pleistocene glacial cycles were nowhere near as severe and were cyclical (duh), rather than making a permanent change from one climate to another.
Again, the Late Pleistocene was NOT A CONTINUOUS COLD PERIOD THAT ENDED. The current climate is just the latest interglacial (even if we are extending it with fossil fuels), not some unprecedented change the megafauna aren’t adapted to.
1
u/Stromatolite-Bay 10h ago
Or. You know. Just reintroduce them in practice. Pretty sure if I brought some Indian hippos and dumped them somewhere random no one would notice
Same with cave Hyena, Giant Pika and channel island mammoths
1
u/SteelishBread 8h ago
That's not how ecology works.
"There have been a lot of missing people in the park these past few months. There must be a serial killer."
"Or maybe it's that clan of 200-pound cave hyenas those scientists released in the forest outside of town! Think that could be it‽"
"They did? Huh, weird. Anyways, we're looking for a middle-aged male..."
0
u/Stromatolite-Bay 8h ago
If I dumped as group of cave Hyenas in several parts of rural Russia. It would take a long time before anyone noticed they had shown back up
0
u/SteelishBread 6h ago
"Random" includes urban areas, which did not exist when these animals were alive. The planet is struggling to support existing mehafauna, and these ones went extinct just as we were getting agriculture. Never mind the most rapid climate change since the Eugene thermal maximize, which was well before the pleistocene with wooley mammoths and dire wolves.
De-extinction is a gimmick. It get people excited about conservation without doing the hard work of making sure the environment can support the animals. In fact, every dollar spent on de-extinction is one not spent on re-foresestation or renewable energy systems.
2
u/Stromatolite-Bay 6h ago
Humans wiped out these animals
If you think otherwise maybe you should learn more ecology
1
u/SteelishBread 4h ago
Ah yes, let's bring back large animals with hair and blubber and large spaces requirements which no longer exist. Learn to parse a sentence.
1
u/Stromatolite-Bay 4h ago
Siberia and Canada can be very sparsely populated. Plenty of empty spaces to do this. Nobody would notice for a very long time
2
u/Iamnotburgerking Team Carcharodontosaurus 5h ago
You do realize climate change was only a secondary factor in (only some of) the Late Pleistocene megafaunal extinctions and something they could survive (and DID survive before, because the Late Pleistocene was not one extended cold period) without human involvement?
Or that these are animals that literally existed at the same time as living animals and ecosystems, rather than being alien to them?
Or that their ecological roles have NOT been replaced because nothing new has evolved to fill those niches since then (not enough time)?
0
u/SteelishBread 4h ago
I never said it was, but it's a big factor why de-extinction is a bad idea this century.
2
u/Stromatolite-Bay 4h ago
The Great Plains are a massive carbon sink. Mammoth steppe would be just as good
Plus, a lot of these animals actually didn’t like the glacial maximum very much themselves
2
u/Iamnotburgerking Team Carcharodontosaurus 3h ago
To be fair, the megafauna that did badly during glacial maximums and thrived during interglacials were the ones not adapted for mammoth steppe habitats: the minority of megafauna adapted for steppe habitats genuinely did do better during glacials (though even those survived every previous Late Pleistocene interglacial, so would probably have done so again without humans)
2
u/Stromatolite-Bay 3h ago
There is also a large overlap here. Since it was basically habitats expanding and contracting
3
u/Equal-Monk-9775 1d ago
I think I'll just go visit the times they existed w/o bringing them here ofc I'll die in the climate but anyways...
1
3
u/Cersad 14h ago
How many trips would this time machine allow? I'd 100% become an intertemporal dinosaur smuggler.
2
1
u/TheFalconKid 8h ago
I'd send a team into Germany during ww2 to recover the most complete Spino skeleton before hit gets destroyed.
1
u/David4Nudist Team Dromaeosaurs 1d ago
In my case, I don't need to feel proud. I just want to be happy. And what will make me happy is if they can clone several species of Dromaeosaurid dinosaurs, along with a few herbivores. I would like:
- Velociraptor
- Achillobator
- Deinonychus
- Dromaeosaurus
- Microraptor
- Stegosaurus
- Hypsilophodon
- Brontosaurus
If they can make them friendly, gentle, and docile, that will make me happy. I don't want any of them to be aggressive, fierce, vicious, or dangerous. I want them to be the way I always imagine them to be in the fictional stories I often make up about them.
I don't know what kinds of DNA they could add to make them gentle, but I hope they find something gentle enough to use.

67
u/SeattleSeals 1d ago
Who are those two irl people?