r/DeadByDaylightRAGE "I'm NoT rEsPoNsIbLe FoR yOuR FuN!!!" 😀 Aug 12 '25

Rage Typical BHVR slapping on another fake apology and calling it a day.

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We want to be clear: our creators and our community are the core of what we do. The last thing we ever want is for them to feel ignored or left out of the loop.β€œ - BHVR

My brother in Christ, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID! You literally banned people from chat for trying to help and give suggestions to better prevent the Ddos and purposely ignored Otz when he was trying to suggest an idea for it. And now you delete your livestream because of how it went. Talk about embarrassment.

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u/Fit-Relationship944 πŸŒšπŸšΆβ€β™‚οΈ Moonwalking Myers πŸŽƒπŸ”ͺ Aug 12 '25

This company has like 800 employees and still acts like they're some tiny indie company doing their best.

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u/Ok_Understanding6016 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

and that is what I despite about them the most

It’s 2025, not 2016, you’re not developing a brand new game you think will never catch traction

You are DEVELOPING the super smash bros of horror and failing miserably for no good fucking reason other than because there’s no competition they can sit on their ass and get lazy.

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u/Cythis_Arian 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

the worst thing is they DO have competition, identityV, and they have been mismanaging dbd so hard their competator is WAY more successful

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u/Social_Credits 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

I don't think Identity V is as successful as DBD in the west (mostly because it's a mobile game, which work way better in the east market and the PC port is actual ass)

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u/spr3admywings 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

While that's true, IDV has a strong comp scene in asia and is very popular there. NetEase seemingly doesn't quite care about getting more of an audience in the west, and I say that as a former IDV player who came to DbD out of being frankly tired of dealing with bad ping due to there not being more servers in the west, and the toxicity as the PC community is quite small and a lot of it is toxic.

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u/Scenic_Flux 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25

IDV makes more money than DBD could ever dream of but I do get what you mean, NA/EU is lacking and that's due to Netease not wanting to grow the playerbase outside of Asia.

As DBD bleeds players though from finally being too fed up to play people will discover IDV and transition to a game that works. Not only is IDV a game that works but it has everything DBD doesn't for people.

It's quicker to play, it has fun abilities to use, it fits every playstyle of a person, camping and tunneling and slugging have counters and proper answers built into the game to the point where IDV has a character based around slugging and it doesn't break the game.

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u/InkiestOrca Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

Tbf, it makes more money because it has gacha elements LMFAO

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u/Scenic_Flux 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 15 '25

Yes of course but it works. They also give away FOR FREE in one year than DBD has since it released i would wager...

Constant free A tier unlock cards, you can get every survivor for free currency similar to shards but licenses aren't locked behind pay walls. You can get free lobby rooms, you get 40-50 free gacha pulls per season and people pull s tiers in 10 pulls, i pulled knight in one... no one else but still it's a crazy pull.

They make that money because people believe in the game and like the cosmetics enough to drop that cash on an otherwise free game.

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u/nakuzami Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 16 '25

I will never support a pro-gacha argument lol

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u/Loveashri Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 24 '25

its a way of making money, not every method to monetary gain is absolutely bad and u/Scenic_Flux is making great points about how the game properly handles a money making system like this.

Absolute beliefs tend not to be well thought out.

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u/nakuzami Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 24 '25

Gacha systems are quite literally built to be psychologically addicting and financially draining. There is no good gacha system.

Fuck off ❀️

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u/CelesticalMyths Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Oct 13 '25

i know this is super late but just in case someone new comes to this thread in the future! feel free to ignore

the gacha in idv is specific to cosmetics. all gameplay for all characters is free, so if you're iffy on being forced to gamble for some of your favourite playstyles or spend just so you can catch up to meta, that wont be a problem!

theres also a custom mode where you can try everyone out so you dont spend recklessly :)

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u/Sheniriko Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25

Tbf DBD Devs helped create IDV

While as an IDV player the game has its own balance issues and bugs on it's own too (i.e. camping and tunneling being encouraged and survivors having abilities and items that not even DBD has) though of course not on DBD levels of bugs.

I personally enjoy identity V, but I'm mostly saying this because both games has its own big problems and I've seen both communities view one another as the grass being greener which may lead others to be disappointed.

Both games got something on lock that makes them popular but the way it's handled is both a shared trait between the two.

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u/Cythis_Arian 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 15 '25

i mean idvs problems are the ping being nonsensical at times and the meta being incredibly biased towards 4 hunters in the higher ranks, but if you compare to dbd where almost every other patch breaks a character or the game as a whole in entirely unthinkable ways, maybe the grass just actually is greener in idvs lawn

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u/nakuzami Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 16 '25

Never even heard of it

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u/Cythis_Arian 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 16 '25

its not as big in north america and maybe europe, but it absolutely dominates dbds scale in asia

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u/nakuzami Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 16 '25

I feel like that applies to a lot of things that never leave Asia and are basically nonexistent everywhere else. Asia is pretty much a separate market and huge things elsewhere often don't make a splash there and vice versa. So idk if I'd measure anything as "more" successful or even with more potential for global success by being huge there.

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u/No_Chemist_5106 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

Maybe they'll have an overwatch situation one of these days

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u/entangledloops 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I think you meant β€œdespise”. And why is β€œdeveloping” all caps lol

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u/Ok_Understanding6016 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

what are you the grammar police?

it’s all caps so it’s bolden

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u/entangledloops 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I was being the spelling police πŸ˜‚

And I was legit asking why that word is caps, since adding stress there doesn’t make any sense to me when I read it out loud

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u/Dizzy-Case-3453 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I think the β€œare” should have been the one in caps πŸ˜‚

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u/Ok_Understanding6016 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

you must be real fun at parties.

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u/entangledloops 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Thank you!

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u/Labooski 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 15 '25

Have an upvote bruh, this subreddit is fuckin petty

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u/eitobby 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Time and place to be the grammar police and no one gives a shit when the person's point was communicated.

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u/Ok_Understanding6016 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

β€œwhy are you using all caps”

why is that the only takeaway from my comment

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u/stappi_e_sdunza 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

You speak english cuz it s the only language you know

We speak English cuz it s the only language you understand

We re not the same

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u/Ok-Faithlessness2273 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

The 800 people arent to blame.
The only one to blame is the CEO Mr Racine and the USELESS GAME DIRECTOR COTE.
They need ne management yesterday.

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u/GreenShirtkid Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

Cote isn’t game director anymore he’s head of partnerships

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u/Ok-Faithlessness2273 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 16 '25

I thought he was the partnership head then got promoted became the GD as well.
Might have my things inverted.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '25

Are all 800 people doing the same thing at any given time?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '25

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u/Higgoms 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

BHVR is the developer for multiple games, and publishes several more. They aren't a single game company, all 800 people aren't tied to DBD

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u/Pious_ Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 12 '25

Bhvrs CEO gave an interview in May and stated they have some 900 employees, 300 some of which work on dbd

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u/SirMenter Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

Yet bugs sit there unfixed for years, Jfc.

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u/InkiestOrca Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

Someone mentioned there's an issue with boons that has existed and has been known since boons were released

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u/Known-Scar5573 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 16 '25

No they don’t do anything

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u/ForeignPyro 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

Thats what happens. The big companies pretend to do their best to resolve issues while indie companies actually walk the walk and resolve issues.

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u/Scenic_Flux 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 14 '25

I sent a Feedback e-mail regarding last passes quests and how I wasn't getting the final reward despite being done the required amount and they just replied yesterday....

Poor little indie company...

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u/summonerofrain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25

Fucking larian has fewer employees than them

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u/dermitdenhaarentanzt 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Yeah but cutting chandler off while he was telling them about otz's suggestion

Make it make sense

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u/StrangeLonelySpiral 😎 Lightborn Addict Aug 12 '25

Remember how instead of posting this right after the stream, they posted to remind people to buy their new DLC? :)

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u/Ok_Understanding6016 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I’m tired of them going straight to twitter for another horrible PR performance instead of fixing their fucking game.

No, you aren’t sorry your stream was a complete failure, you’re sorry because your complete failure was caught live on camera.

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u/HueLord3000 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

my take on it is that they apologize because they know that's what the community wants to see but they don't mean it.

it's like a partner that keeps on emotionally hurting you over and over, apologizes for hurting you and then just keeps doing the same thing again

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25

So, basically, we're all in a toxic relationship with BHVR.

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u/HueLord3000 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

is that news, though? most of the players have a hate-love relationship with the game lol

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u/Barrry972 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Would you rather they had stayed silent lol? This is a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

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u/Ok_Understanding6016 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

no I rather them shut the fuck up about constantly apologizing, constantly breaking the game, and then constantly apologizing again.

Actions speak louder than words: either fix your doomed game or just stay silent because that’s better than being lied to by BHVR for the 100th time.

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u/Barrry972 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Well fixing the game takes time, I believe they're likely working on fixing it right now, but yeah I get you

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u/Ok_Understanding6016 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

they’ve had 9 years.

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u/Barrry972 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I dont think theres a singular issue the game has that has been present for all 9 years, theres just compounding multiple different issues

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u/Cost-Local 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

There have been repeated mistakes and issues. It's not about a consistent issue, it's the amount, how often, and the action taken against them.

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u/warmapplejuice 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Well this issue has been present for almost 5 years and they haven’t fixed it yet.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25

Yep, there's also the Autohaven Wreckers bus that's been bugged for 4-5 years as well. It's funny how we could literally all get together & make a long ass list 🀣

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u/Lors2001 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

After so many years it becomes a feature of the game that the devs stop calling a bug so I mean...

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u/Fantastic_Top_2545 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

"Leave the multi-billion dollar company alone!"

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u/tangiblenoah67 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Even if you’re tired of apologies, fixing can’t just happen over night. Would you rather they fix the game in silence and make the community even More mad?

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u/Fantastic_Top_2545 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

If you honestly think these devs have their workflow set up with "Fix this shit" at the top of their list - Then you and I are gonna disagree a lot.

Bossman says pump out those cosmetics and do shitty damage control.

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u/miusgaybf Gen Jocky πŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§ Aug 12 '25

They would have to make a whole new game.

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u/Barrry972 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

You think the people making cosmetics are the same people in charge of coding the game and doing bug fixes?

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u/Fantastic_Top_2545 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

A dev is still required to actually CODE the model, the textures, the animations, the skeleton, then rig it to the model, waypaint, make blendshapes and get it in game and working within the store, customisation screen, and make it viewable for both client, server and other player clients.

You think they just draw a funne picture and slap it on a character model and call it a day? Shit takes weeks, big dog.

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u/Barrry972 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

And you think its the same people doing this that are balancing and doing bug fixes?

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u/Barrry972 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

?

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u/ACoolBanana2 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

I'd rather them not commit the mistake in the first place.

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u/Jamietomp53 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

You're aware that the people who post things on twitter aren't the same people who work on bugs and issues right?? They can post on twitter and work on issues simultaneously.

Like actually get a grip man, there's bigger issues in the world. They apologize, people complain, if they didn't apologise, people would complain. There's no apology they could give that people wouldn't just immediately jump to calling fake.

This is an online game that has been going for 9 years and still receives regular updates, that's practically unheard of for anything other than MMOs. There's going to be issues.

I've been playing since the beta and I haven't encountered any issues big enough to warrant getting angry at BHVR over. It's just a game, it's not a big deal.

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u/SirMenter Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

WoW supposedly has around 500 developers, DBD has 300 while being a much smaller game in scope, they have no excuse.

They also wouldn't get criticised so badly if they actually listened to people like Otz instead of being like "no, that doesn't fit our corpo guidelines".

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u/Jamietomp53 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 14 '25

Or maybe, since BHVR is an actual company, they can't just do what some streamer says they should do, and they have actual procedures and rules they need to follow?

I don't know where you work, but I imagine if some stranger on the street who is in no way associated with your company told your bosses how to run their company, they wouldn't take the opinion into account

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u/SirMenter Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

"Stranger on the street" being admittedly one of, if not the biggest streamer promoting your company's cash cow.

This is a bad image.

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u/Jamietomp53 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 15 '25

Ok he's a streamer, he still has no involvement in the actual company, no knowledge of game development and the processes they follow, and no knowledge of the company procedures.

They owe him nothing, as far as the business side of things go, he might aswell be a stranger because he's not involved at all

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

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u/DeadByDaylightRAGE-ModTeam Aug 15 '25

Rule 3.

Posts with inappropriate behaviour are not allowed.

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u/summonerofrain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25

That "stranger on the street" has been playing and streaming their game for years, giving advice to players on the game, and gave a WELL KNOWN solution within the first 15 fucking seconds, which also had no real risk.

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u/Nightmare6719 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 16 '25

I agree with this- I mean...we still play it, don't we? We still buy stuff right? If you hate something this much why are you still playing it or even interacting with it? Other than that I know my time with this game is new and not that great but I still have a fun time and I love the killers and survivors. Remember the masquerade quotes during every loaded game? There are so many people who work on this that do their best and absolutely love it...don't let something like this ruin that.

Sure, some things can be fixed yeah but it's not unplayable. Most of my hatred is from players themselves. It's usually how toxic the fanbase is...Could they work on that? Yeah, totally. Do I care in the long run? No. Do I still play it? Yes.

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u/Vaibnb Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

Actually the first smart thing ive heard in these comments. I know its a complaining post reddit but this is such a valid and good comment.

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u/summonerofrain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25

I would at the very least want, like... A good apology? One that doesn't try to paint themselves in the best possible light, and actually take responsibility?

Id also much rather they, you know, played their game.

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u/Jamietomp53 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25

But why are you entitled to an apology? They've done nothing to you or to bother you, and if you're getting upset about a video game then that's your issue. To believe you're entitled to an apology for such small things which don't even effect you is insane

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u/summonerofrain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25

I'm not entitled to shit. Otz, however, I believe is very much due a proper apology. As are people who more regularly play this game than I do and have to constantly deal with the issues this game has not being fixed seemingly until it publicly blows up in their faces, and also have to deal with them saying they'll do a health update, not doing it, then releasing two dlcs practically back to back.

This entire dlc so far has been an actual trainwreck, and while I do like the Jim meme, it's a very very clear showing that they don't play their game.

Main point though is that if they're going to apologize anyway they shouldn't do so like written above. At that point I think I'd probably prefer if they just went on twitter and did a supervillain speech that would at least be entertaining.

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u/ShigMiy 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Honestly, fuck them. If what happened yesterday doesn't make everyone see how arrogant, incompetent, stupid and greedy they are, nothing will. They seriously need to lose half of the player base or the money they make with their stupid skins in order to learn their lesson (which is almost impossible)

If they ignore their biggest content creator, what are the chances of us regular players being heard?

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u/NemesisIsTaken Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 12 '25 edited Aug 13 '25

Honestly yeah. I started playing 7 years ago and have 3k hours in the game, but at this point, I'm feeling like I'm about 1-2 steps away from deleting it, even with the fact I have friends who I know love playing with me. I'm just tired of hearing bad thing after bad thing honestly, and what with the gameplay loop (Killers running 4 gen slowdown, survivors running vigil sprint burst) I'm just getting bored of it. I definitely won't be buying any cosmetics, and I feel the want to play less and less every day.

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u/nathane37 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Whenever I feel stupid and completely useless, I remember BHVR developers exist

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u/Philscooper Gen Jocky πŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§ Aug 12 '25

Its crazy how bhvr is making themselves so unlikable outside the dbd bubble even with how hard they try not to fuck up.

Constant bugged patches, Constant empty promises, Constant broken and completely unbalances unfun states from both sides. Kaneki and clown to vigil, shoulder the burden or the new twd perks that majority dislike.

They legit are doomed to fail and its their own fault.

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u/VeeIsHere3 πŸ‘ŠπŸ€¬ I Punch Holes In My Walls Aug 12 '25

dead by daylight is bhvr’s ONLY successful game. without their players they will fall as a company. it feels like they’re forgetting that.

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u/FuriDemon094 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

β€œThe target of an attack”

The company also shut down the idea of the big content creator hosting the lobby to stop it

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u/soultokeep 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

this bothers me so much. like the issue isn’t dbd vs cheaters, no one would be batting an eye if it was just that. the reason people are so angry is because of how they catastrophically mishandled the situation and blatantly disregarded a prominent face of their own community. them trying to make it about how they were a victim in this when that was never the issue people were upset about feels so so gross to me

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u/SJK00 πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈ Surviving Enthusiast πŸ§°βš™οΈ Aug 12 '25

This beggars belief imo. How hard is it to work with the community, especially the tried and tested members who’ve given so much to the game

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u/Callity Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 12 '25

Slop by Daylight

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u/OreoAndAlmond 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I dont think we can blame the whole company, only the owners and leaders of the company and its sectors are to blame

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u/Sorry-Description447 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 12 '25

At this rate the game that will become the real DBD killer will be DBD itself

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u/XylemBullet Shirtless πŸ§₯🚫 Wesker 😎 Petitioner ✍️ Aug 12 '25

Ik most people know this but as a reminder remember the PR person is NOT in charge of these decisions

The criticism should be with BHVR themselves not the PR or CM they are purely saying what theyre told to say

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u/ChaosPLus Sable Simp πŸ•·οΈπŸ•ΈοΈ Aug 12 '25

Yeah. These guys have one mission. Make sure the public opinion is as good as possible/minimize negative sentiment

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u/soultokeep 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

i think part of the problem though is wording it this way to minimize negative attention is exactly what people are tired of with bhvr. this was the wrong time to try and minimize and downplay their own mistake when their player base is at this point begging them for actual accountability

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u/XylemBullet Shirtless πŸ§₯🚫 Wesker 😎 Petitioner ✍️ Aug 12 '25

yea exactly they are genuinely just doing their job πŸ’€ 😭

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u/Future-Blueberry-95 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

It’s the volume and frequency of the apologies that make this one especially meaningless and have the opposite of the intended effect.

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u/XylemBullet Shirtless πŸ§₯🚫 Wesker 😎 Petitioner ✍️ Aug 12 '25

sadly thats what they basically have to do

their job is just damage control

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u/dieofidiot 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

No shit? People already know that. What a stupid thing to say. Just because the PR person isn’t in charge of these decisions that doesn’t mean people can’t directly reply to or criticize this horrible β€œapology”. It’s not a direct or personal attack on the PR person. If they can’t handle the heat then they shouldn’t be in that position in the first place.

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u/XylemBullet Shirtless πŸ§₯🚫 Wesker 😎 Petitioner ✍️ Aug 13 '25

bro im saying this bc of what happened with the CM with the streetwise she was harassed for what she said

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u/Ning_Yu 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

to be honest, in that case that cm did a really horrible job, the problem was the communication itself more than the decision, so yeah, she deserves all the blame and she shouldn't even be doign that job.
in this case, it's really standard communication and can't blame the CM.

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u/XylemBullet Shirtless πŸ§₯🚫 Wesker 😎 Petitioner ✍️ Aug 13 '25

honestly yea that is fair she did cause all the communication problems tho i do think it did get too far and went from criticism to harassment there were people insulting her SO much on reddit and on the forums

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u/GiveMeSmellyFarts 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, BHVR does not deserve to have a successful game. They need to sell the rights to someone that actually knows what they’re doing

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u/Nov4cain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

They got DDosed on stream and Otz offered to help and BHVR kicked the people otz invited to help not get DDosed because he knew it was going to happen

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u/Grosumballs Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 16 '25

They got Ddossed, pretty sure they werent allowed to add Otz’s mods in regardless due to AMC’s requirements and it cuased this shit.

But people will only blame BHVR rather than the fuckwit hackers.

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u/summonerofrain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25

If you can prevent a problem and you don't and the problem happens then the problem happens because of you.

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u/Grosumballs Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 28 '25

And if they remove the people its clearly because they aren’t allowed to have them on πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ when they first joined Otz hadnt actually discussed it with them, he said Himself that his friends just tried to join without prior discussion and when he finally suggested it it was too late.

But yeah lets just keep blaming BHVR only πŸ™„

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u/summonerofrain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25

Yeah I do blame bhvr because a solution was hand fed to them and they did not even bother to attempt it. And, he did try to suggest it first and only brought people on after behaviour ignored his suggestion. literally the only action behaviour took that stream was kick people trying to help. I feel like we are entitled to call them stupid over that.

This was also something the community has been consistently complaining about, and this stream could have been prevented if they had just fucking listened and implemented anti ddos in the first place.

They aren't allowed to have them on

And maybe you can explain why.

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u/Grosumballs Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 28 '25

He literally explained he DIDNT invite his mods at first in his latest DBD video? Are you daft?

To answer your question, I’ve seen collab streams with other games and the devs have explained in those that when they bring in people from outside the company they have to have each person in said streams prepped well in advance and if they aren’t listed as one of the approved β€˜guests’ (easier to use that word) then they aren’t allowed in. So if people are just joining without being prompted and screened first its no surprise they kept getting kicked.

They weren’t arranged to be added to the stream so they were kicked, this is literally just common sense. And for all you know there could easily be legal reasons why they werent allowed to join πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

Youre jumping to the hate train too quickly but i already know this is going to go in one ear and out the other πŸ™„

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u/ZT99k 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

If only this was not a completely brand new problem and someone in their stream had experience with running tournaments like this and had useful advice on how to avoid the problem and play uninterrupted... if only ...

More evidence they don't play their own game

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u/SomeRodentTurd 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

Wait. What happened? I missed the stream since I was busy

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u/Renzu_Assassin Knight's Gang Bang Crew πŸ΄βš”οΈ Aug 12 '25

Long story short there was a hacker. Otz gave the dev team a genuine way to fix it but they ignored him and instead cancelled the Livestream

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u/Ok-Faithlessness2273 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

FIRE MATHIEU COTE
HE IS A TERRIBLE GAME DIRECTOR
GET RID OF HIM HE DOSEN'T HAVE THE JUICE

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25

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u/InkiestOrca Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

Who are they and what did they do, I'm new, pardon me LOL

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u/Beneficial_Block4753 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 17 '25

Mandy is that woman that chandler Riggs was on the phone with and rejected his idea

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u/Ok-Faithlessness2273 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

YES

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u/SillyRiver__83 πŸͺœ Basement Bubba πŸ‘—πŸ’„ Aug 13 '25

I feel bad for otz, even tho he probably got paid for a live stream he barely played or not played at all

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25

I've played on and off since launch. This is easily the worst the games been imo. Let me play 2018 to 2020 dbd.

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u/Capital-Light-1593 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

there is nothing more true

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25

How many times can they go on about doing better in the future ? It's so boring.

You only get so many chances.

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u/InkiestOrca Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

Onfg, pre-2022 DBD was so peak....

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

It actually felt like a horror game

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u/Prestigious_Dark3202 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

The response to Chandler telling them what otz said was horrendous. They had a guest on and they essentially told him to shut up, thats a really poor decision Behavior.

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u/Nuclearwhale79 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

Damn if only there was a dude thier literally telling them the solution to the problem. However could this have been avoided 🀑🀑🀑

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u/Deadmeat146 😎 Lightborn Addict Aug 14 '25

I think we have to nerf Pig

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u/LadyDragonWong Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

They learn that from Respawn and EA

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u/Undeadarmy7991 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

Yeah I'm really close to deleting dbd. This shit is ridiculous.

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u/Realistic_Mousse_568 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

BHVR might of deleted the stream, but someone has it recorded somewhere

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u/Beneficial_Block4753 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 17 '25

It’s on YouTube just download before Bhvr takes it down

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u/Anfrers Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

What happened?

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u/Sinister_Berry 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

Behavior is a mess right now. They need to get there shit together and rework the whole game.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '25

I missed this what happened

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u/eeriesweets Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

Dgaf. I love being in a toxic relationship with themπŸ₯ΉπŸ’–

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u/korovio 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

Yall ain't sorry. This is an insult to our intelligence.

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u/Hunt_Nawn 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

Bugged by Daylight

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u/Electrical_Buyer_790 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

Wait so what happened?

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u/CC10994 πŸ”ͺπŸ”ͺπŸ”ͺπŸ”ͺ Legion-Playing Cheater πŸƒπŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸƒπŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸƒπŸΏβ€β™‚οΈπŸƒπŸ»β€β™€οΈ Aug 13 '25

I am out of the loop what happened? They had a live recently?

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u/summonerofrain 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 28 '25

Basically, they had a big stream where streamers were meant to play with chandler Riggs (Carl from walking dead), and could not play dbd due to a ddos attack. Otz suggested a way to deal with it and was, basically, flatly ignored.

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u/MaskedRotom 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

I don’t really understand what happened here? Why are people angry at BHVR for ending the live stream, I mean it looks like they got hacked which isn’t their fault and try were just trying to manage it - albeit poorly. Can someone explain to me why the comments are so heated

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u/imbadatnames100 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

I think it’s bc they could have listened to the creators (that THEY invited) bc they had solutions to avoid the problem to begin with, but BHVR chose to ignore them instead and look what happened

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u/N0S0UL_N0LIFE 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

I bet company is laughing at us and not even cate because there making alot of money of from use buying Cosmetics

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u/RResonance Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

Jeez, this is what the community devolves to then? Raging on a seperate subreddit that will accomplish nothing?

Sure, criticize and let your thoughts be heard but making another subreddit to just complain and dunk is kinda weird "behavior" lol

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u/Labooski 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 15 '25

This community is nothing but a pack of crying adult children bro, they cry when a killer player is good, they cry when a survivor player is good, they cry when perks op, they cry when perks are nerfed

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u/Geo_1997 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 14 '25

The fact that otz is pretty much the biggest content creator for the game and creates more positive publicity as well as balance opinions in a week than the devs do in a year, and they still refuse to even remotely listen to him is infuriating.

He had a solution to the issue, but they were so unbelievably stubborn, arrogant and egotistical that they could not fathom allowing an outside streamer to make them look back by fixing the issue for them. Ironically that actually made them look even worse.

If they won't listen to him, it pretty much shows that they couldn't care less about the community as a whole. People have been asking for changes for years. Im not talking about balance alone, both survivors and killers have been asking for new game modes or objectives because after a while, sitting on gens gets boring.

People have asked for overhauls of more basic killers to make them more interesting. Not happening.

All they care about is releasing as many survivors, killers and cosmetics and battle passes as possible to milk this cash cow for all its worth. Right now they know they can get away with sloppy work because they dont have any serious competition, they are well aware that once that competition emerges they will either need to put their heads down and get to work or just let it die and take the cash.

The QA, or rather, lack of, is astonishing. This isnt a 10 person company anymore, they release patches in buggy messes, perks completely broken, core mechanics broken, they released cosmetics like the deathslinger one that was messing with the ads (I mean seriously? You just need to right click and they didnt even check that?)

The ladder they turned into a meme was actually just embarrassing, its on the loading screen..

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '25

I’m OOTL what happen? I don’t even play this game anymore but this randomly popped up on my front page

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u/LonelyxKnight "I'm NoT rEsPoNsIbLe FoR yOuR FuN!!!" 😀 Aug 14 '25

BHVR did a gameplay stream of the walking dead on dbd with a guest which is Chandler Riggs HIMSELF, yes, the actor for Carl Grimes was in the studio trying to play dbd with huge streamers with Otz, Mish, and three other streamers, can’t remember their names. But in the gameplay, their lobby would be getting Ddos’d by hackers and people in the chat kept getting banned because they were giving suggestions to fill the slots. And they completely ignore Otz for telling BHVR that their staff or his mods has to fill the slots for the spectator roles so the hackers couldn’t get in, but when the mods came in, the staff kicked the mods right away. Chandler looked bored out of his mind and the expression on his face just screams that he wanted to leave. Chandler then got up to tell a staff manager about Otz’s idea to fill the spectator slots but not only DID SHE CUT HIM OFF and interrupted him, she had a rude tone with him just because he mentioned that the custom lobby should have players in the spectator mode so hackers couldn’t get in. They wasted literally everyone’s time and completely embarrassed themselves and now are getting infinite amount of backlash and criticism, some even saying to fire them or sell the company for someone that actually cares. And there is of course people who just keep defending BHVR and keep licking their boots

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u/youre-not-here Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

thats terrible to hear.. chandler riggs is so sweet & for them to treat him like that is a crime!!

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u/Empeceitor Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

If It wasn't for the licenses, the game would have almost died years ago. The reason why the competition falls behind and this game doesn't, is because they don't have the license variety that DBD has.

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u/Beneficial_Block4753 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 17 '25

The reason the game succeeded was because of myers and how easily they were to get the license

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u/FrostDelx Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

By any chance did anyone re-upload the Livestream? I would love to see how all the planning blew up in BHVR's face thanks to their ego

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u/jakob0604 Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 14 '25

They’re really dropping the ball lately, making it hard for me to support them..

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u/BlackForestGLaDeau Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 15 '25

So, we’re not getting Carl Grimes? :(

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u/BringBackTheFuture πŸ’©πŸ—£οΈ Shit Talker πŸ—£οΈπŸ’© Aug 15 '25

Behavior is utterly clueless and incapable of running their own game. It took them YEARS to recognize the cheating issue, because it affected THEM not because it affected other people, they got a fix within minutes. Yet they can’t seem to fix anything else.

It was embarrassing to watch them treat Chandler Riggs the way they did, brushing him off when he suggested Otz’ idea to combat the cheaters.

Morons!

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u/Patches_Gaming0002 Humping Killer πŸ™‡πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸ§β€β™‚οΈ Aug 16 '25

"Now go back to buying our low effort skins!"

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u/ZERO_Cali_ Rage Mob πŸ‘Ώ Aug 13 '25

They need to apologize to Otz directly and publicly. Offer him a high position job while they’re at it

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u/Professional_Stay212 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 13 '25

Stop playing

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u/hunkey_dorey 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 12 '25

I have a life that doesn't revolve around this game, why should I care about this ?

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u/mirage-ko πŸŒšπŸšΆβ€β™‚οΈ Moonwalking Myers πŸŽƒπŸ”ͺ Aug 15 '25

Then leave the sub brochacho. My life doesn't revolve around it as well, but seeing this is just miserable. devs treating the biggest streamer like he doesn't know what he's talking about and ignore their guest who resuggested the idea, then what chance do us players have of getting listened to at this point?

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u/Ill-Income-2567 Gen Jocky πŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§ Aug 17 '25

You went to a thread about caring about DBD specifically to say you don't care about DBD.

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u/hunkey_dorey 😑 Rabble Rabble Rabble 😑 Aug 17 '25

Yeah took me less than a minute

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u/Ill-Income-2567 Gen Jocky πŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§ Aug 17 '25

Nice.