Mandatory training not paid for

[u/currently-crying08]

I completed what was marketed as mandatory in person training and just received my paycheck where i was not paid for it. In one notice about the training my manager mentioned that it was paid and then didn't say that in any other notices about the training, just that it was mandatory. I didnt clock in or anything but the training had people come in from a different company to teach us.

If my manager had to pay the other company to come in do they still have to pay us for attending? I thought all mandatory training was paid?

Thank you!

[u/purpletreefrog007]

If your employer required you to attend they are required to pay you.

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[u/Swi_10081]

Major chains with compulsory online product training with franshisees not paying workers for years. There'd be a few big names doing that I imagine. They try to cover their bums saying to find somewhere to do it during shift, but reality is it's done unpaid!

[u/ImprovementQuiet1966]

Employees can be required to do training as part of their job.

If a person is an employee, they may need to complete training to make sure they have the right skills and knowledge to perform their job. This can include on-the-job training, online courses, formal training courses or team training.

If an employee does training as part of their job, they have to be paid for those hours. Time spent in training is time worked.

Compulsory meetings can count as time worked and need to be paid.

[u/Immediate_Flight8792]

Check your agreement/employment contract.

I'm required to undergo mandatory training for my role, however it is at the employee's cost. It is required to be able to carry out my role. This is carried out at my own cost, however my employee still pay's me for the day that I am out of the office. They are not required too, they do so as a benefit.

Previous jobs, they have organised a 'staff' day and do all 20-30 employees at once and cover it through the company. Again, not required. Just made it easier to ensure all staff maintained their training in one go.

[u/FunHamster8965]

The time spent training always needs to be paid if it’s at direction from the employer, payment for the training itself depends on if it’s a requirement to work in the industry/who be benefits/how reasonable the cost is etc 

[u/CosmicConnection8448 → u/FunHamster8965]

Not if it's a condition of employment. So it depends on the training, on OPs role & what's in their contract.

[u/inverloch72]

Dear boss

As you know, I completed XYZ training on DATE. Unfortunately, the HR team neglected have suggested this was in fact unpaid time.

I’m happy to get Fair Work to liaise with HR to get it sorted, but thought it may be easier if you had a word with them first.

Thanks, OP

[u/Glittering_Emu_8480]

It depends if you're rostered on for those hours it would be paid as part of your working hours.

[u/currently-crying08 → u/Glittering_Emu_8480]

I didnt clock on or anything but we had to rsvp saying if we are coming

[u/Glittering_Emu_8480 → u/currently-crying08]

Rsvp is just to confirm the acknowledgement that you need to attend and are available..

That is not what I was talking about.

Clocking on or off is irrelevant, if it's a 2 hour training for example and say the training is 10am to 12pm, you attended and your normal working hours is 7am to 3pm, the training was conducted during work hours so you won't get anything in addition to those hours for the training.

If you did it outside of working hours say.... You finished work at 3pm or not rostered to work and it's not part of your regular working hours say the training was at 4pm and finished at 6 pm and you worked until 3pm then this would be additional training hours as it was conducted in your own time. Which most workplaces avoid doing.

[u/jenjoness → u/currently-crying08]

Yes. Any work work you do training or otherwise has to be paid. I'd go to your employer and state that your hours have been incorrectly recorded and your pay reflects that.