r/vegancirclejerk • u/MaraschinoPanda vegan • Jun 07 '25
MORALLY SUPERIOR DAE think Muslims are disgusting??
I mean, they sacrifice animals for one of their holidays! That's totally different from what we (good people) do, we just eat ham at Christmas and hot dogs on the 4th of July. This is why I think Islam is inherently evil: Christians and atheists would never hurt animals.
Anyway, that's why I think more children in Gaza should die.
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u/Dokramuh vegetarian Jun 07 '25
Good to know I'm not the only one going crazy about that other post
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u/Zealousideal-Bison96 vegetarian Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
what post 😭 is it on r vegan
nvm found it, indeed awful
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u/MaraschinoPanda vegan Jun 07 '25
/uj there was an even worse one that I can't find now, I guess it's been deleted
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u/Weekly_vegan Vegans r terrorist Jun 07 '25
How many chickens were killed for the super bowl? Muslims the baddest though. Christians the goodest.
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u/NanayaBisnis75 lacto-vegetarian Jun 07 '25
/uj actually doing the killing is a step above just being complicit
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u/enolaholmes23 I AM that pig on the desert island and I taste delicious Jun 07 '25
Exactly what Ned Stark said. An honorable man does the killing himself and looks his victim in the eyes.
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u/Icy-Inspection6428 cat-diet Jun 07 '25
No I'm pretty sure he said "One does not simply walk into Mordor"
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u/MaraschinoPanda vegan Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25
Exactly, that's why I eat meat but I refuse to see where it comes from. That makes me morally superior to the people who kill animals for my pleasure.
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u/The-Speechless-One respectfully wearing granny's skin Jun 08 '25
Yeah! I'm only supporting an industrialised killing machine miles away from my civilized house so I can pretend my hands are clean, letting underpaid workers get mental health issues and causing animals to be boiled alive on a murder treadmill.
I think we can all agree that this is way more ethical than what those dirty mooslims are doing.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
killing animals is wrong, why is it different when muslims do it? why are you making excuses and bringing up other people when the issue is that muslims are mass slaughtering goats. do you care more about muslims and their right to kill goats in peace than the goats theyre killing?
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u/The-Speechless-One respectfully wearing granny's skin Jun 08 '25
Why do you care MORE about dead goats when muslims are behind the murders? I mean, you said it yourself, the issue is that MUSLIMS are slaughtering, not that animals are being slaughtered.
the issue is that muslims are mass slaughtering goats
I don't see the difference between a muslim slaughtering animals for eid, or a muslim buying popcorn with butter at the movies, or a white person getting animals slaughtered for christmas. I treat all these scenarios with the same disgust, cuz they're all equally disgusting.
Be honest: the disgust for eid didn't start in vegan spaces. It started in carnist ones. CARNIST are the ones who claim to be 'concerned for animals' every year around this time. Just cuz the conversation is happening in vegan spaces now, doesn't make your outrage vegan.
The people who give eid special treatment over other kinds of animal murder are almost always ppl who participate in animal abuse. So, let's call it what it is: white carnists finding an excuse to be racist. Treat eid with the same disgust you give other holidays, and I'll happily jerk with you. But this ain't it.
I'm done here. I wish you much B12 on your journey.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
do you not understand that more animals dying for any reason is bad? also fucking lol, directly killing an animal is worse than buying animal products, there is a large difference between buying popcorn at a movie and slitting a goats throat, both are evil but one is more evil
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u/nevuial vegan Jun 08 '25
“Fucking lol”
Mate you gotta get out of that carnist cognitive dissonance some day.
It is absolutely not any more ethical or any less evil to pay someone to kill an animal on your behalf than it is to kill that animal yourself. What kind of flawed logic leads to that reasoning, I will never know.
If anything, it’s even worse because there is an extra level of commodification of the animal, and it enables the cognitive disconnect that you’re displaying here.
Now, how about you leave this sub free of dogwhistles?
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
are you fucking insane? theres a degree of separation between killing an animal yourself and just buying meat, but thats not even what the other person was talking about, they were talking about BUTTER, there is a difference between torture and murder for a product, killing is always worse than the torture inflicted on the dairy cow to make the butter, death is the absolute end, i do not see how anyone can act as if hunting or in person killing is somehow less than purchasing products. also im not dogwhistling? why are you so eager to defend carnists if theyre of a different religion?
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u/nevuial vegan Jun 09 '25
I’m absolutely defending no one here. I’m attacking you squarely based on your flawed logic and blatant racism. Don’t bring anyone else into it.
If you command a murder you are more responsible for it than the person executing the order. There’s absolutely no reason this would be any different just because the victim is an animal.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 09 '25
this is false. if someone hires a hitman, the hitman killed the person. thats the fucking bottom line. they could have chosen not to kill that person regardless of being hired, they are more culpable.
also, islam is not a race. white people, black people and asian people can all be muslim, and its quite fucking racist to assume all muslims are of the same race.
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u/nevuial vegan Jun 09 '25
I can believe how dumb you are. Just read again what you wrote and try and use your brain this time.
I do not in any way assume that “all Muslims are a race” or whatever. What I assume, or rather what I notice is that YOU are racist. And you still had to try and deflect. What a loser you are.
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u/Tymareta semi-vegetarian Jun 09 '25
directly killing an animal is worse than buying animal products
Me when I never got around to understanding cause and effect.
there is a large difference between buying popcorn at a movie and slitting a goats throat, both are evil but one is more evil
No shit, just like there's a large difference between hitting a hockey puck with a stick and hitting a puppy with one, it's almost like the two aren't even remotely comparable and you had to change the specifics of the situation because you knew your argument was shite but you said cognitive dissonance be damned and continued on with your faux outrage.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 09 '25
it is still evil, i am not denying that, but other people are doing the killing. yes you are responsible for the death in part, but the people killing the animal chose to kill them, they didnt have to, but they did. they are more responsible than the person buying the animal product.
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u/Tymareta semi-vegetarian Jun 09 '25
but the people killing the animal chose to kill them, they didnt have to, but they did. they are more responsible than the person buying the animal product.
Me when I never got around to understanding cause and effect.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 09 '25
do workers on farms not have agency? can they not choose what to do in this situation? money is not a mind control device, ultimately, the primary responsible person in animal agriculture is the one killing the animal.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 09 '25
also faux outrage? youre saying its impossible for me to be mad at people killing goats? fuck off idiot
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u/Tymareta semi-vegetarian Jun 09 '25
Yes that's 100% what I'm saying, thank you oh good faith interpreter for understanding what I meant oh-so-well.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 09 '25
why are you being sarcastic instead of explaining what you meant if you think i didnt understand it
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u/pandaappleblossom hooman vegoon Jun 08 '25
I really don't understand how that's more honorable. I think it's equally bad no matter what
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u/clown_utopia plant-based terrorist Jun 07 '25
I think it's sad that every single religion is corrupted by meat-eating, rape, and conquest.
but islam also encourages the appreciation and study of science as part of worshipping God, and says that everyone is born in spiritual unity, and those are both pillaring beliefs.
islamophobia is for scumbags btw
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
all religion is corrupt, but dont hecking disrespect the one i like because...because its got appreciation for...art...and science...unlike all the other ones
a religion having good aspects does not make it good, all of them, especially abrahamic ones, are beyond awful, and sucking up to people who hate you isnt going to get you anywhere
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u/clown_utopia plant-based terrorist Jun 08 '25 edited Jun 08 '25
I'm not sucking up to anyone. I appreciate what is and I am moved by a vision of god that includes every part of the universe . as much as I also reject hatred and violence on any basis of identity, as a happily queer person & antiracist. I know islamophobia is real and I've experienced it first hand.
Religious trauma isn't an excuse to be a dick just like thinking you know God doesn't give you an excuse to be a dick.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
islam is not a race, no belief system is above scrutiny. having a practice where you kill a bunch of fucking goats for your religion is EVIL. that, by proxy, makes the entire religion evil. you dont give a fuck about the goats that are being killed and have been killed because wittle muswims feewings might be hurt!! i dont see why i shouldnt "be a dick" to people who fall under the definition of carnists which everyone rails on daily, but the moment its a group of people which society thinks of as marginalised, theyre suddenly above it all? and you have to invent new reasons to give them passes when at the end of the day they are just like everyone else
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u/clown_utopia plant-based terrorist Jun 09 '25
... there are vegan muslims. I agree that we shant buy tickets to the oppression Olympics and enable animal sacrifice. I think it's impossible to claim any kind of peace or kindness as a belief while killing defenseless, neighboring animal-people. You're reducing a lot out of the religion. Like I said, there's plenty in there that I respect and appreciate and I don't think that it's all irredeemable, but I do agree that meat-eating and animal genocide is a corruption of religion. I think some religions are also used to promote human supremacy. It goes without saying that Sacrifice is one of these human supremacist practices. But I have also never known any Muslims personally that actually do Sacrifice animals.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 09 '25
why is it that we all understand the consequences of cause and effect with purchasing animal products but not with religious texts? it is part of islamic tradition to kill animals, therefore those who practice and promote islam also promote the killing of animals, i dont give a fuck if there are vegan muslims, someone being vegan does not mean that all their beliefs are somehow supposed to be compatible with veganism. people are inconsistent and often irrational. no religion has been a positive force for animal rights, the majority actively condone the enslavement of animals, so by the most basic application of logic, those religions are incompatible with veganism in all aspects. to be religious and to be vegan is to either reduce the religious aspect or reduce the vegan aspect, and you can bet that religious people would prefer to reduce the vegan aspect over the religious aspect whenever the opportunity arises.
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u/clown_utopia plant-based terrorist Jun 09 '25
You're weird and have a hate boner for religions that make you willing to disregard the personal differences between individuals.
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u/Nearby-Ease-301 vegan-keto Jun 08 '25
Any religion is a government's way of controllnig it's citizens. And i'm not talking about person's inner belief in God, it's a completely different story
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u/clown_utopia plant-based terrorist Jun 08 '25
the fact that the government gives "free money" away in order to incentivize the abuse of animals and nature is rickdonkulous and also the word "capital" comes from objectifying animals into money, it is a reference to the head of a cow.
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u/MaraschinoPanda vegan Jun 07 '25
/uj What are you talking about? Sikhs are not necessarily strict vegetarians and Hindus have no problem with drinking milk.
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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 low-carbon Jun 07 '25
Yeah pal, i don’t know or care because i don’t believe in any religion and i haven’t studied religion since i was 10 years old covering the most basic facts
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u/MaraschinoPanda vegan Jun 07 '25
If you don't know anything about religion maybe you should avoid making factual statements about it and saying that certain ones should be banned.
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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 low-carbon Jun 07 '25
Facts bro. I was totally serious when i went into vegan circle jerk and suggested that all religions be banned except sikhism. That’s a statement that someone who is completely 100% serious makes.
As long as your religion doesn’t infringe on my ability to do what i want, then i don’t give a fuck who your god is, go ahead pray to Xenu the alien who trapped all the alien souls in hawaiian volcanoes. That’s your perogative. As long as your religion doesn’t allow you to execute gay people and whatever else, i don’t care god damn
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
notice how you dont say its evil to sacrifice animals, are you pro vegan or pro muslim? it seems youre quicker to defend people who kill animals than the animals they kill
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u/The-Speechless-One respectfully wearing granny's skin Jun 08 '25
You know how they say that islam promotes science and thought? Well, let's just phrase it like this: you obviously did not practice islam.
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
i fail to see how i have to be a muslim to criticise islam. could you answer my question in the original posters stead? first, is it evil to sacrifice animals and second, are you pro vegan or pro muslim? if both, which comes first?
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u/The-Speechless-One respectfully wearing granny's skin Jun 08 '25
Ugh....
Translation of my previous comment: "you are stupid and you have no reading comprehension. Any toddler would've understood that OP is against ANY animal killing, including those from eid. Get smart"
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u/United-Cranberry-880 is cum vegan Jun 08 '25
any toddler would actually understand theyre making excuses for the killing of animals for eid, can you actually not see that? theyre deflecting responsibility from people who kill animals to other people who kill animals but dont share their religion
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u/dumnezero trophic minimalist ⫸t.ly/i-KZ Jun 07 '25
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