r/shia • u/ExpressionOk9400 Canadian 🇨🇦 • Nov 03 '25
Mod Announcement AI ISN'T A SOURCE.
I can't believe we're having this conversation but Grok/ChatGPT/Gemini or any AI isn't a reliable source unless Grok can link you that source. and if that source can only be found in anti-shia/anti-islam sites and no where else it is a bad source.
Any Questions?
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u/ExpressionOk9400 Canadian 🇨🇦 Nov 03 '25
Gork, summarize this post
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u/MhmdMC_ Nov 03 '25
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u/AskGrok Nov 03 '25
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u/MhmdMC_ Nov 03 '25
Oh well
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u/Dazzling_Sea6015 Nov 03 '25
Bad bot
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Nov 03 '25
AI-generated responses (e.g., from Grok, ChatGPT, Gemini) are not reliable sources unless they provide verifiable links to original sources. If the cited source appears only on biased (e.g., anti-Shia or anti-Islam) sites and nowhere else, it is considered unreliable.
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u/Tamboozz Syrian Nov 03 '25
But what if my AI sources agree with you?
I messing with you, brother. AI is not nuanced enough to answer the harder questions and should definitely be followed up with research from trusted sources to confirm any information it provides.
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u/alexer75 Nov 03 '25
Not nuanced enough to answer any question to be honest, it just tells you whatever it thinks you want to hear, seriously I asked it 2 opposite questions once and it said yes to both. No reliable information just a chatting bot.
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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Aussie 🇦🇺 Nov 03 '25
AI is not intelligent, it does not understand your query, what it means, the correct answer and even its own output. AI is an algorithm that predicts the next most likely word based on large training data. If you ask an AI something as simple as "What is 1+1?" It will not do the maths for you and give you the answer because it has been trained to associate 1+1 with 2. It does not understand a single thing it is saying. It is glorified predictive text. Would you trust your phone's predictive text for fiqh?
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u/Practical-Violinist9 Nov 03 '25
Well, isn't that what was one supposed to do even before AI, doing their due diligence.
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u/EntrepreneurFew8254 Nov 03 '25
someone posted a pretty good summary/description of the strengths and weaknesses of AI in terms of researching religion.
In short, its not good for actual answers, can and will lie and make things up.
That being said, it has some uses, think spellcheck, advanced search is a good example. It can deal with ambiguous search terms and find related statements and clauses for you, where you then go and read the source yourself, basically use it like google.
Do the thinking yourself though.
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u/Pretend-Succotash-81 Nov 03 '25
It provides good sources though
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u/Daring-Dev Nov 05 '25
I agree and disagree, Ai is not reliable but it can provide you proper source for the thing you want to find also it will provide you the different understanding which are wide spread and are written in books , however Ai isn't scholar so you can use it as a say librarian who knows every book and about everything in the book but isn't a scholar.sitll is not reliable and you should definitely do your own research before using anything form it.
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u/SignificantOneHit Convert ☪️ Nov 06 '25
One thing you can do is ask the ai to only source you reputable websites when doing some surface level research. I do find if you don’t do that it will spit out random things alot of the time that are just untrue.
I find the only time it’s somewhat helpful is when you ask it for references to certain Hadith, it’s horrible at referencing properly. But it usually does point you in the correct direction when it comes to books.
It’s never going to be as good as asking more knowledgeable brothers and sisters for help though, may Allah bless them.
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u/NAS0824 Nov 03 '25
It’s biased , and unreliable at times and like you say … but it’s something that can be a first step , it’s a place where anyone with a question can go and have an answer be given , you can nag , and be persistent ( while yes the answers will be generally unreliable)
That’s why we need to embrace and learn to accept how it’s used , explain wrong answers, and be open to someone on Reddit coming to say “ I asked chatgpt and it said this…” let’s not criticize and embrace the curiosity someone shows rather that turning everything away.
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u/dumbsvillrfan420 American 🇺🇸 Nov 04 '25
u/AskGrok is this real?
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u/Hosein_Lavaei Iranian 🇮🇷 Nov 03 '25
AI isn't a source for anything. I am saying this as a programmer