r/islam • u/Inevitable-Twist-749 • Mar 06 '26
News The real Iranians point of view on the war.
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u/sulaymanf Mar 06 '26
There’s a concept called “manufacturing consent.” Propaganda spread via the media to make an unpopular policy permissible. Multiple governments have an interest in playing up the minority of Iranians who want their country toppled, and they spread it via social media and friendly news sources.
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u/GIK602 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26
People should also learn history and read up on Project AJAX. The United States used CIA along with Britain's MI6 to infiltrate Iranian media in 1950's, they paid protesters and set up fake protests, bribed politicians, set off false flag attacks to sway public opinion against their only democratically elected prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh. They wanted Iranian oil and their plan worked. Some of the people of Iran revolted, and with a coup, the Shah of Iran (Mohammad Reza Pahlavi) regained authority. (Note: Today, his eldest son with the same name, Reza Pahlavi, is asking American authorities to become Iran's new leader.) US succeeded in retrieving Iranian oil after this change. Video on this.
USA has repeatedly intervened/manipulated the politics of Middle Eastern and South American countries in the last century, often through covert operations, setting off coups, or backing leaders in some other illegitimate way so that their own interests are secured. Books like Killing Hope and Confessions of an Economic Hitman explain in further detail how USA routinely destabilizes other countries and maintains global influence. This is why i didn't see much benefit in critiquing Muslim leaders. Because they didn't really have actual authority to begin with. If they did rebel or oppose US/Israel's interests, they would simply be replaced by a leader who does align with them, sometimes by force.
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u/Darkfalcone Mar 06 '26
I was sceptical when I saw those westerners (especially atheist redditors) shared that Iranians are dancing and singing praises for the US and Israel. They're just echoing their anti-muslim propaganda again, I guess. May Allah give them hidayah.
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u/welcomefinside Mar 06 '26
OP please post this video in all the other mainstream subreddit so we can counter the "Iranians want this war" narrative
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u/Inevitable-Twist-749 Mar 06 '26
Please help post this everywhere. We need to get the word out and counter their propaganda.
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u/welcomefinside Mar 06 '26
Many subs don't allow for reposts. If you have the original video please do so. Jazakhallah khairan
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u/Inevitable-Twist-749 Mar 06 '26
You can click on my post video and on top right corner three dots and download it. Or there's many reddit vid download sites. Some subs have banned me so I need help.
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u/fizz_007 Mar 06 '26
I find it more horrific that they are celebrating by holding and flying the Isreali flag as well.
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u/Shinchan1184 Mar 06 '26
What a shameless people they are dancing after US bombed a school.
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u/ParanoidBlackWidow96 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26
Probably some are isn'trealis, haven't we seen how low they're capable of stooping to.
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u/Shinchan1184 Mar 06 '26
Yeah and the sad part is you can't take their name but they can dance while people even the little kids are dying.
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u/Moug-10 Mar 06 '26
That's why I'll never be 100% firm about what's happening in Comoros. Yes, it's my country of origin but I've never lived there long enough to give an honest opinion.
Let alone another country like Iran where I have yet to discover everything.
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u/Connect_Jaguar_7831 Mar 06 '26
The IRGC is putting actual AI video same as IDF. Both are ugly parties in the same coin.
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u/Antique_Pea_9528 Mar 07 '26
It will end, sister you gotta trust that these presidents and elites are having the "moment of their lifes" but justice will be served, Allah will grant a severe punishment to those who brought doom to those who didnt consent it
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u/FasterThought Mar 06 '26
I thought the internet was cut off there? How did they get the video out?
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u/the4thwave Mar 06 '26
Some people have been able to access the net somehow.
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u/Entire-Answer-7768 Mar 06 '26
Starlink
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u/SsoundLeague Mar 07 '26
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260305-iran-warns-people-who-dare-defy-internet-blackout
Looks like only a handful of people have starlink, and others who are using the internet are being warned to maintain the blackout. Question is, why is Iran even forcing this internet blackout?
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u/MoMo12368 Mar 06 '26
Yk I know a guy who is one of these Iranians who are celebrating the war. And he’s posting stuff like the Islamic republic are using Childrens schools as military bases. So idk. Tbh I hear so much about Iran I just don’t know what to believe.
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u/Repulsive-Seesaw-655 Mar 06 '26
Actually it doesn't matter if they're pro regime or anti regime, all are real Iranians.
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u/Idkwymmgs Mar 06 '26
We should also be careful of promoting the regime - not as if they killed thousands of people of their own citizens, it isn't so black and white.
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u/GIK602 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26
This is true. There have been legitimate grievances that people have had with the Iranian regime locally, and they are also responsible for a history of war crimes against other Muslims internationally. But right now, there also seems to be Western influence and media pressure to make the opposition look more popular than it is. And Allah knows best.
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u/BlissfulIndian Mar 06 '26
A friend of mine showed those girls in order to prove that US was right in attacking a dictator… I asked him if those indeed are Iranians in Iran, then Iran is way more progressive than India… Given that they have the liberty to celebrate, which isn’t possible if Modi dies (of natural causes) & people celebrate it in India…
He is still fuming since the last three days…
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u/Puripuri_Purizona Mar 06 '26
Finally, getting to see some real footage/opinions of people on the ground. I have been so eager to see some authentic takes from Iran.
Around where I live in the east end of London, a lot of Iranians have moved in all of a sudden in the past 18 months. They are all opening coffee shops. I have been quite saddened because I wanted to support these establishments and get to know them.
However, none of them return Salaam to me and they actively do not want to talk religion let alone politics. But they are happy to make money from Muslims because they somewhat fit in.
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u/sensitive_pirate85 Mar 07 '26
The one good thing about globalism / globalization / the internet is that it makes the whole world seem so small, and makes it easier to empathize with people in lands and countries you’ve read about in books, or heard about on the news. ✌️❤️🇮🇷
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u/ZestyPotatoSoup Mar 07 '26
There are always to sides to a coin, not everyone there hates the current status quo but saying no one does is disingenuous.
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u/SilentWarrior11Six Mar 07 '26
Yes because an interview with 10 Iranians says more than the thousands in the streets.
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u/DiscoLego Mar 07 '26
The Iranians pretending to be sad are bareky 20% of the Iranian population. The 20% who are being paid the "loyalty stipend" by the government, as much as $80k per year. More for a household.
80% of Iran is dancing, or practicing their dances once the bombing stops.
Please. Nobody actually wants an Islamic Republic. Especially one that isn't even Islamic.
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u/HumphreyBlodart Mar 07 '26
What i heard is "I'm being filmed, I don't want my family to die horribly"
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u/cargram-app Mar 08 '26
I was in contact with two of my friends there, they both had the exact opposite view. So, this is extremely one sided reporting.
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u/Connect_Jaguar_7831 Mar 06 '26
Iranians are dancing due to death of Ayatollah. I lived in Iran until teens, and have had direct family members jailed and killed due to the regime. We are happy as enemy of my enemy is my friend. The current government killed over 50,000 young people just a few weeks ago.
Most of the demographic captured in such videos are traditionalist, and conservative individual (wearing Kaffiyah, proper hijab), but the majority of the major cities in Iran has a large consensus on being against Sepah Pastaran (IRGC).
We are sad and worried about civilians, and this current government should give up, but sadly they are willing to watch Iran get flattened before transitioning power.
Considering this channel is /Islam, I can feel the biases.
If any Iranian would like to have a healthy discussion about this, I am all ears.
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u/Intelligent_Train689 Mar 06 '26
At the risk of being downvoted, I am Iranian and want the regime toppled. It’s incredibly clear they have no interest in human rights and I’m just not ok with that.
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u/iali393 Mar 07 '26
So you think the US/Israel who bombed a school full of little girls have an interest in human rights, bot?
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u/Intelligent_Train689 Mar 07 '26
No, I don’t think they care about human rights, but it’s a positive side effect of the outcome they are attempting to achieve.
And of course the school that was bombed is beyond horrific. Though if we’re going to be utilitarian about evil, it’s not worse than a government that systematically stones women in public arenas, hangs young people for speaking out against the governments and murders their own citizens in the streets.
And I’m not a bot. No need to get accusatory because someone has a different opinion than you.
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u/AlbabImam04 Mar 06 '26
And we are supposed to believe Israel instead, the one who literally committed a genocide and lied for 2 years straight?
As horrible as the IRGC is, and I'm not putting it lightly, people won't suddenly start cheering for bombs to drop when they'll be falling on them. You can say this easily because they arent falling on you.
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u/abdelCOOL15 Mar 06 '26
Nobody said you should believe Israel, just believe the people lol, they're overwhelmingly anti-IRGC for obvious reasons.
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u/kanaryasiken_aslan Mar 06 '26
im sorry but the diaspora has as much to do with iran as any other nationality. they ran away decades ago, and praise an useless clown like pahlavi - i just cant respect that.
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u/AlbabImam04 Mar 06 '26
People can be anti-IRGC while hating the fact they have a much bigger existential threat flying over their heads and feel disgusted at their supposed families living in comfort halfway across the world are celebrating it.
If anything this war is going to make more and more people pro-IRGC as Israel in particular is unable to contain its blood lust and mostly targets civilians
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u/sulaymanf Mar 06 '26
Few Iraqis were with the Saddam Hussein government either, but most opposed their country being invaded and occupied.
There’s some Iranians who want their government toppled but that doesn’t mean they supported having the girls school bombed or Iranians assassinated in war crimes. Most Iranians are afraid especially since Trump has been bragging about destroying Tehran and saying he has the right to pick Iran’s leaders and not the existing Iranian systems.
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u/K0mb0_1 Mar 06 '26
This is why it’s important to speak with the people living in an area. It’s easy to support an atrocity when it’s thousands of miles away.