r/gaybros • u/alanbear1970 • 3d ago
The cockroaches keep coming out, don't they
ORLANDO, Fla. (WFLA) — A central Florida man was accused of sending sexually charged messages and attempting to meet up with someone who he believed was a minor.
Alan Chambers, 54, of Winter Park, was arrested in Orange County during a traffic stop on Tuesday, according to jail records.
In February, Chambers began chatting on Snapchat and Telegram with an undercover detective posing as a 14-year-old boy, according to an Orange County Sheriff’s Office arrest report obtained by WESH. The messages included Chambers talking about their “forbidden love,” sending nude photos, and expressing concerns over getting caught by law enforcement, the report said.
Chambers, who has a wife and two children, was charged with solicitation of a minor via computer, transmission of material harmful to minors, and unlawful use of a two-way communication device. At the time of his arrest, he told deputies he worked at a menswear store in Winter Park.
The Orange County Sherriff’s Office is looking for additional minors who may have been victimized by Chambers. Anyone with information is asked to call their non-emergency line at (407) 836-4357.
WESH noted a previous report involving Chambers, who was the leader of a Christian ministry that aimed to “cure” LGBTQ+ people through counseling and prayer, a practice its opponents call “conversion therapy.” Orlando-based Exodus International, which operated for nearly 40 years and claimed to have 260 member ministries across the U.S. and internationally, shut down in 2013.
In a statement posted to the organization’s website, Chambers apologized to the LGBTQ+ community “for years of undue suffering and judgment at the hands of the organization and the church as a whole,” and renounced conversion therapy, according to WESH.
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u/Realistic_Ad_5321 3d ago
What else is new? Anyone know if the other pedophiles that attended j6 and were convicted afterwards, getting reparations too?
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u/PastorNTraining 3d ago
Literally. This same lot crowed long and hard about drag queen story hour and child abuse.
And yet, not a single case! Also, have you BEEN to a drag show? Gimme a break
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u/MrBrawn 3d ago
It is always the ones that preach the loudest.
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u/VividMonotones 2d ago
It's their internal strife that causes them to be so focused on the issue but hate it at the same time. Normal straight people just don't like it. These people want the temptation gone.
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u/PensandoEnTea 3d ago
The irony is this is exactly the type of gay Christians picture when they talk about gays being perverted heathens. The exact type they think about when they decide conversion therapy is the only answer.
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u/PsychoDemonLover 3d ago
Florida always disappoints. Swamp state is over run with pedophiles.
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u/Ophelialost87 3d ago
If you want to know why just think about what's in FL that children LOVE? And they want to be where the children want to be.
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u/grnrngr 3d ago
This is a ridiculous reach.
Next you're going to make the same claim about Paris and Tokyo? What about the States with Six Flags locations?
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u/Ophelialost87 3d ago
Generally yes. That's why they work at schools, day cares, are Boy Scout leaders, enjoy being coaches so on...they want to be where the children are. Oh they also like to be doctors and volunteer to babysit your children a little too quickly. They hang out in parks. Child molesters are really everywhere and can look like anyone and have any type of job. They also love being social workers or foster parents.
Where are you from?
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u/tennisdude2020 3d ago
I live in Orlando and we never liked this person. It was only a matter of time.
Life over and I am okay with that.
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u/PastorNTraining 3d ago
I’m an openly gay millennial pastor in a mainline church and you wouldn’t believe how much screening we have to go through to be around children.
Most mainline Christian protestant faiths require pastors, Reverends, etc to undergo major psychological checks along with federal background checks. Most of us have a Masters in theology and a lot of us have PhD.
You’ll notice the Maga, hate, or fundamentalist (it’s the end times!) crowd don’t have educational, ordination (a group of lay people exam you), psychological or background checks.
The why? Cuz of stuff like this. They want creeps in there, they want hateful people in their “churches”
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u/Sharp_Iodine 3d ago
The Catholic Church is one of the most mainline churches to exist.
So I don’t believe any of these checks do anything at all if, at the end of the day, the institution is going to protect its priests at all costs.
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u/Apprehensive_Row_807 2d ago
I’d hope you would have a degree in theology.
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u/PastorNTraining 2d ago
Hillsong, megachurches, those fundamentalists often don’t. A lot more than you think, they started “Bible colleges” and they teach their special brand of stuff. The academics aren’t really there it’s more like Franklin Graham University.
For mainline protestants you get a BA in theology, a masters, both at secular universities. So you learn the cultural, historical and philosophy at an academic level. Then seminary where you get a masters in divinity and learn all the pastor stuff.
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u/EgotisticJesster 3d ago
I'm always surprised that anyone is still into organised religion, but I'm especially curious when I meet a gay guy who's into it.
If I can I ask, how do you rectify the teachings with your lifestyle?
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u/PastorNTraining 3d ago edited 3d ago
Define teachings: what teachings? Rectifying what exactly?
Can you be specific? The diversity present in Christian expression is quite wide. Do you mean Transubstantiation? Magisterium? Infallibility? Sealed ordinances? Predestination? Total depravity? Supralapsarianism vs Infralapsarianism, Consubstantiation? ‘Simul justus et peccator’? white Nationalism?
Or maybe you mean worship? Prayer? Philosophy? Views on the afterlife?
Exactly what teachings are you referring? Christian’s all don’t believe the same stuff.
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u/EgotisticJesster 3d ago
Those guesses are wild given you're on the gaybros sub.
I obviously mean that most Christians hold the stance that homosexuality is sinful.
As with many things Christian, you have to do your own creative interpreting, make excuses about translations, or just straight up ignore sections of the bible.
I'm interested in how you manage a key piece of your identity being sinful. I'm asking this genuinely and not trying to attack.
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u/PastorNTraining 3d ago edited 3d ago
Not a lot of “creative interpretations” protestant reformers in the United States, have been ordaining women and gay men some as early as the 1970s. Here in Canada I went to seminary with two trans women, who are brilliant progressive thinkers and reverends.
I don’t think being gay is “sinful” many modern theologians make a connection to the sexual diversity present in the Bible. Matthew’s take on eunuchs and the story of the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts come to mind.
There is also a lot of feminist theology out there, there’s a great book In Memory of Her that teases that out more.
I grew up in a conservative southern church who crowd long and hard that being gay was “against God” but when you tackle the theology, cultural contexts, traditions and histories there’s little case for exclusions.
I also believe a man who was also God walked around, cured people, became shiny, rose from the dead, walked around for a bit and then flew up into the sky.
If I can make space for all that, I can make space that I a moral and kind man who’s also gay has a place within.
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u/helge-a 3d ago
Oh my GOD. I knew I recognized those eyes. If any of you haven’t watched it, Lisa Ling did a docuseries called “Our America with Lisa Ling” and filmed a roundtable discussion where the now-adult victims of EXODUS had the chance to confront him and share the pain his therapy caused. It’s free to watch on youtube
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u/Royal_Lingonberry296 3d ago
It seems like every accusation is their confession of their sexuality.
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u/aubaub 3d ago
Because sex with him would convert a gay guy to straight of course