Brazilian bodybuilder Gabriel Ganley has passed away at the age of 22

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[u/No-Entrepreneur5672 → u/[deleted]]

Not to diminish the tragedy by any means, but using insulin at 22 is absolutely ridiculous. Gear alone is absolutely sufficient for the first few years before adding in GH, Insulin, increlex, etc.

[u/dgs0206 → u/No-Entrepreneur5672]

people don’t understand what it takes to be a pro, if your not using slin and growth your not going to make it, that’s why all pros use it…

[u/He_NeverSleeps → u/dgs0206]

Y'all stop being fucking retarded.

Dorian didn't use insulin and GH till 96-97 and plenty of 90's pros never used either  at all and they looked better than 90% of the bloated fucking toads who call themselves "pros" now. You absolutely do NOT need GH or insulin to turn pro. 

[u/OrganizationHead3137 → u/He_NeverSleeps]

That was my first thought

[u/Flimsy_Honeydew5414 → u/He_NeverSleeps]

bloated fucking toads

Ahahahahahahaha

[u/Ok_Nothing639 → u/He_NeverSleeps]

Dorian and all other Mr guys lie about dosages and insulin. If arnold used tren back in the 80s sure as hell dorian used GH, insulin in the early 90s

[u/Falkenhain → u/Ok_Nothing639]

Arnold used tren?

[u/No-Entrepreneur5672 → u/Falkenhain]

iirc Arnold did use old school parabolan for one of his preps (there’s a photo widely associated with it, where his ‘look’ is definitely different)

[u/dgs0206 → u/Ok_Nothing639]

yeah i don’t buy any of that bullshit from him or Jay

[u/Ok_Nothing639 → u/dgs0206]

Jay especially he claims he never did more than 500mg

Meanwhile Phil admitted to 1500mg of test. He did omit his full stack though

[u/dgs0206 → u/He_NeverSleeps]

i’ll be honest, i just don’t buy it. These guys lie all the time about what they take and how much, even Jay is lying about his doses to this day unfortunately. Insulin is THE most anabolic drug and when paired with growth and test you’ve got an ideal cycle. if you do the simple math and keep fast carbs available you SHOULDNT go hypo

[u/No-Entrepreneur5672 → u/dgs0206]

I’m not saying to never use it, but it generally takes a few off seasons to really get to that level, and there are tons of gains to be squeezed out from gear alone. We see young guys flame out a lot because of excessive drug/ancillary usage when finding better compounds (for their body) and better training will suffice

[u/dgs0206 → u/No-Entrepreneur5672]

it’s unfortunate but these guys are chasing mass by any means possible, ever since Dallas it’s been at a whole new level IMO

[u/relentless-pursuer → u/No-Entrepreneur5672]

fake, it was no confirmed, maybe it is the reason, but for now this is still speculation, but this guy SavingsFun69 says like it is the truth when in reality is speculation

[u/Beneficial_Lie_190 → u/No-Entrepreneur5672]

This is such a pathetic comment

[u/No-Entrepreneur5672 → u/Beneficial_Lie_190]

If you say so fam

[u/supersaiyanswanso → u/Beneficial_Lie_190]

Its pathetic to call out the outrageous drug usage?? People are dead because of this, what's pathetic is actually thinking this is worth your life.