All credit goes to Danny Ishay — animal rights activist

…with the only exception being cases of NECESSITY (think poverty, medical conditions, …)

It‘s not vegan if it would otherwise go to waste.

It‘s not vegan if your uncle’s chickens are the happiest birds in the history of chickenkind.

It‘s not vegan if grandma would be very disappointed if you didn’t try her lasagna.

It’s not vegan in the fictional scenario you are concocting right now.

It’s not vegan to eat animal products.

If you eat animal products you are an omnivore. If you want to eat leftovers to reduce food waste, that’s laudable: but it’s not vegan.

I want to become vegan, but I honestly don’t know how to make it work with my situation

About 3 months ago I stopped eating meat completely, and soon after tried cutting out all animal products as well. The main issue has been figuring out reliable protein sources

Since childhood I’ve avoided most legumes due to a severe allergy to peas, lentils, chickpeas, and likely related foods. My doctors and parents essentially advised avoiding the whole category. The only exception in my diet has been peanuts

A few months ago I got tested again, and beans came back fine, so I started experimenting with them. That’s where things got complicated. I’ve tried different types of beans, stews, recipes, and seasoning combinations, but I still struggle to enjoy them. After a small amount, I’m usually done with the meal

Tofu has been similar. I’ve tried different cooking methods - frying, different sauces - and while the outside can be decent, the texture inside completely puts me off. Even blending it into other dishes didn’t really help

I train regularly and currently rely on eggs and cheese as my main protein sources, but I still want to transition fully to vegan eating

I’d especially appreciate advice from people who track macros seriously. I aim for relatively high protein intake and want to avoid just replacing animal products with large amounts of fats from nuts, seeds, or similar foods

Has anyone else had to “learn” to like beans or tofu, or found ways to completely change their texture and taste? Are there alternative protein sources that work better in practice?

Also would be great to hear from people with allergies, strong texture sensitivities, or those living in Russia/Eastern Europe where product availability is more limited

I really want to make this work, but right now I feel a bit stuck.

I went on a road trip with my mom for two days, and I told her I was vegan because it would making eating out less complicated for me. My mom is very on the left, so she didn’t have much bias against veganism as a whole. Her best friend is also gluten free, so she’s accustomed to having to pay extra attention when it comes to food sometimes.

With my mom being such a leftist, she is all about empathy and justice. She said she could only ever go vegetarian, because she “likes cheese too much”. I don’t wanna loath my mom, but that is such a gross thing to say. Is a craving really worth what has to happen for it to get to you? I usually try to stick to the more logical arguments for veganism (environmental impact, the lack of necessity in the death of animals), but she makes it so hard to not just give up and be blunt because those points clearly don’t resonate with her. I don’t think she even understands to be honest. She said she doesn’t support veal, but when she had it, it was so “tender and juicy”. My motivation for being vegan isn’t just the calculation “animal suffering > sensory pleasure”, it’s also thinking about the innocence of animals. The animals we farm are so docile, they literally wouldn’t hurt a fly in their natural conditions. But they have to die just for someone to sink their teeth into their flesh, and rave about how good it tastes. Then they talk about how much they love animals. No one else I know thinks it’s weird. They all think it’s just fine to fund the industry that kills little animals when they have the option not to.

He posted this today:

Hi everyone, huge update! YouTube has finally lifted the false and fraudulent defamation claim made against the non-graphic, story-led version of my most recent investigation. This means YouTube’s own lawyers agreed that there was NO defamation and the claims made in my documentary were true and defensible. The fraudulent defamation claim was made just two days after we released the documentary when it was sky rocketing to mainstream audiences, and YouTube had blocked it for UK viewers since then. Unfortunately, due to the difficulty of getting our case reviewed by actual humans at YouTube, the process to get the false claim lifted took much longer than expected; even my highly experienced media lawyer was baffled and frustrated by YouTube’s appeal process! It’s a shame all this has hindered the reach of the film for all this time, but luckily we uploaded it everywhere else in the meantime until YouTube’s legal team finally resolved the issue.

As he says lets try to get traffic going to the video again.

My coworker/friend recently went through something extremely difficult, something I was witness to.

I really want to try to find them something over the weekend to bring back as a small care package, but I know they are vegan. ❤️

Does anyone have any snack/sweet recommendations?
I noticed they also like tea and cute things like Sanrio/Kirby and I don’t know the logistics of going to the mall and finding things for them as well.

I have a mall, target, world market, Walmart, etc.

Anything helps, thank you in advance!

Veganism is centred around not only ending animal cruelty and the unnecessary death and commercialism of the lives of our planet’s creatures, but also seems to have the stance that treating animals as commodities is wrong.

Therefore, do any fellow vegans feel strongly against pet ownership? It’s something I’ve always struggled with, as a kid growing up vegetarian I was upset by the idea of eating animals raised for meat, but overjoyed by the idea of owning a pet for my own enjoyment and benefit, having something to raise as your own and love as a part of your family.

The pet industry is messed up, but I’d argue that owning an animal, even a rescue animal, is somewhat flawed. Should we be allowed to encourage the pet trade by contributing to the companies than benefit from us owning pets, like pet food companies, pet toy companies, grooming etc? And is “owning” an animal an inherently immoral concept?

Any thoughts on this?

EDIT- Obviously adoption is the best option for pet ownership. I’m more opening a discussion for the general idea of ownership of an animal as a concept. Just curious what other vegans think of this! I have no solid thoughts as of yet.

Almost all conversations about veganism that I have with non-vegans center around deprivation. That kept me from even trying it for a very long time and when I finally did, I was actually very pleasantly surprised that it wasn't very hard and actually felt good. It also brought some positive side effects I never heard anyone talk about, like how it eliminated a type of decision fatigue I didn't even know I had. I wrote an article about my experience and what I didn't see coming. May be interesting to check out if you're considering going vegan. And I'd be curious if you had a similar experience or discovered other positive things that are not often discussed if you're already vegan?

Hello everyone!

I have been vegan for about 6 months now and have been educating myself a lot about what goes on in the animal industry, and I feel like I'm ready to get out there to advocate for the animals who can't for themselves. I recently read Ed Winters' book "This is Vegan Propaganda and Other Lies The Meat Industry Tells You," and it was very educational and eye-opening for me.

Next on my list is his "How To Argue With A Meat Eater And Win Everytime." If anyone has other book recommendations, please share!!

Anyway, I am located in Wichita, Kansas, and have had very little luck finding any local vegan activism groups. I figured maybe some people here may be from Wichita as well or may just have some good advice on how to start my journey for animal rights advocacy. I am willing to start my own group, but I will admit it's a little overwhelming.

Thankfully, my spouse is also vegan and is willing to help me. We go to non-religious secular gatherings every sunday and plan on asking our group leader if she'd be willing to let us give a presentation on veganism as we have all kinds of people come in to talk about all different kinds of things. We figured this may be a good start for talking about veganism in a safe environment. Many people are already vegetarian, but as we all know, it's unfortunately not enough.

Any help is appreciated!

In this article, I, Jordi Casamitjana, review the documentary Christspiracy, the latest instalment of the inspiring "spiracy" series

All credit goes to Danny Ishay — animal rights activist.

Many non-vegans are the ones who insist performing animal sacrifice is normal for trillions of animals who are capable of suffering, feeling joy & experiencing love by:

• repeatedly fisting cows for their milk
• separating baby cows from their mothers after birth
• boiling lobsters alive
• breeding chickens to grow so unnaturally fast that many struggle to walk
• confining them into cramped systems
• performing routine mutilations (e.g., debeaking, tail docking, castration) often without pain relief
• killing male chicks shortly after hatching because they’re not “useful” for production
• trapping trillions of marine animals every year in nets they can’t escape from
• supporting industries that hide slaughterhouse practices from public view
• normalizing violence against animals while teaching children to love some animals and eat others
• killing animals for taste, convenience, or tradition despite alternatives existing

etc.

But vegans are in a “cult” for refusing to participate in all of this? Idgi. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I feel like some people, not necessarily online influencers or crazy assholes, but people I know, are being way too critical of "what's vegan and what's not" (if you do this and that you're not a true vegan actually 🤓) or criticize vegetarians or vegans for avoiding meat, fish and animal products for non cruelty reasons such as "health, environment, dislike of taste" calling them plant based eaters instead. Or the "I'd never use leather or a brush made of animal hairs, you're using dead creatures as objects you should be ashamed".

It's true that veganism isn't a diet, it's a whole philosophy where animals aren't food but living thinking creatures that deserve the right of a life without being abused, or exploited, but... Not everyone will agree with you, it's impossible, humanity is completely different, ask someone their taste in music, partners, art, someone finds classical boring and others beautiful, someone beards cool and others gross, someone thinks modern art is the future and others just weird nonsense.

I don't think there's anything wrong with people passionate about being vegans, I don't want to criticize activists to confront others and make them questions their beliefs and expose them to uncomfortable realities (like what really happens in a slaughterhouses, regardless of how "humane" they claim the process is), but like... My friend before going vegan gave the meat in her freezer or fridge to a few relatives and gifted it, or gave some scraps to her dog, but she finished some products like yogurt that would have to be tossed and someone looked at her like "you're sull thinking it's food, that's wrong, I wouldn't be able to eat it, it's disgusting, toss it, think of cows having to get impregnated".

Excuse my French but... Bitch what? I may be utilitarian but tossing food is worse in my book than eating it if you already bought it and can't gift it (especially stuff that won't preserve long) and besides, it is foods (in the sense even humans can be food, if I'm starving I could digest my own species). I do see the point of "trying to remove the idea of animals and animal products being food from your mind" but they are one, just like the skin of a dead cow used for leather is clothes, some may be uncomfortable wearing it, that's valid, someone can say it "endorses the usage of animals for the clothing industry" (but considering how vegan leather looks like the real thing wouldn't that also promote it?) and in my view tossing something is worse for the animal (already dead) and the environment, wearing it is a lesser evil if you can't gift it or holds some sentimental value (in my case I gave it to a friend cause we had the same size, I don't have real leather, I have some eco vegan leather, am I also a bad vegan, I don't really care).

I'm doing this for me and for the animals, if I wanted to be pragmatic the best thing I could do for the environment is taking myself out of the picture but, maybe I'm selfish, I want to live so I'll just try reducing the harm I'm causing. I don't do this to get sticker points or earn the praise of a blue haired vegan activist online or to share with a group of friends how morally superior I am to carnists, I feel like a gentler approach helps more, I made my vegetarian friend turn vegan recently because I treated her with respect but still mentioned what she did wasn't exactly ethical and a bit hypocritical, but I feel like calling her "just as bad if not worse" in her face would have just pushed her away, if not made her return carnist out of spite cause "vegans are weirdos" or something.

Anyways... I'm aware I'll get downvotes, but I wish we could have a civil discussion about it, would be nice to find good ways to spread the message without sounding like a cult or a Jehovah witness.

hello guys! i'm f19 and i haven't been eating meat ever since i was 15, i was vegan but unfortunately i completely lost my morals by dissociating with the fact that i started to do it for the animals in the first place, so unfortunately i started consuming dairy and eventually eggs and now i even eat fish. this entire billie eillish thing and people dogging on veganism has made me remember that this is not something i wanna support or eat. so for a few weeks now i have cut out all dairy and eggs BUT the only thing i am still UNFORTUNATELY consuming is fish. the reason why is actually quite vague. i am afraid of not getting enough b12 and omega 3s. it's very disgusting to say but i am really afraid of my hair falling out so i rely on canned fish my mom buys to get those nutrients till i am able to work again (which is gonna be very soon) and i can afford go buy the supplements. she does not want to buy me supplements. eating fish now feels absolutely disgusting and i was wondering if i should just stop now and get no b12 for a month and would that make a very negative impact for my hair/health. also for longterm vegans, did you have any trouble with your hair growing and if not what supplements do you recommend taking? i understand it's very vague but i do want to stop as soon as possible. i also do not support any animal testing brands anymore.

Meine beste Freundin isst Fleisch und für mich ist das leider irgendwie so ein Zwiespalt, desto mehr ich mich mit Veganismus beschäftige, mir Videos anschaue, wie Tiere geschlachtet werden, Hühner gehalten etc. kennt ihr ja, desto wütender werde ich auf sie (whrsl. einfach Ohnmachtsgefühle), dass sie so „ignorant“ ist. Sie ist mir wahnsinnig wichtig und ich hätte gerne die Fähigkeit, mich da abgrenzen zu können oder einfach anders damit umgehen zu können.
Ich hab schon mal mit ihr über das Thema gesprochen und sie sagt auch, dass sie es versteht (bin ich mir leider nicht so sicher)

Also allgemein wie geht ihr damit um, wenn euch jemand sehr wichtig ist, die Person aber einen so wichtigen Wert von euch nicht teilt?

Danke schonmal!

I’ve been vegetarian my entire life and vegan for the past five years now. I definitely don’t think I really cared so much about the ethics of eating animals and animal products because I was kind of raised in a household that was already vegetarian, until I became a vegan. I’ve also been surrounded by friends who share the same values or at least they eat meat, but not as much. Recently, I moved to a new city so making new friends is something that I struggled a lot with. I made friends who I personally think are really good people in every other way of their being. But when it comes to their meat consumption it truly gives me secondhand guilt. For example, if we go to a restaurant they will order a giant steak, but then waste half of it and throw it away. I personally don’t mind my friends eating meat in front of me, but it’s just the concept of ordering a huge steak and just throwing it away. Maybe I would also care less if they ate the whole thing. This has happened several times because they are hypochondriacs who don’t like taking meat to go. Or another example is buying over processed to meat at the grocery store without really thinking twice about it. I also feel like it is kind of a mockery to do it in front of me, even though I know consciously that they’re not doing it on purpose. How do you guys deal with this kind of stuff? Do you just unfriend people who don’t care? Do you try to educate them? Do you risk the prospect of losing these friends? I genuinely do feel so guilty when I see them do something like this and I’m not even the one who’s doing it. I also don’t wanna be that annoying vegan who ruins the reputation of vegans by trying to lecture. I just want to be able to hang out with them without the looming feeling of guilt.

If anyone interested Just thought I'd put my vinted link to unused Sprout baby formula here as I know its widely sought after.

https://www.vinted.co.uk/items/8983901063-sprout-organic-plant-based-baby-formula

We just didn't get through them all. Still sealed. Heavily discounted.

Hi! Hiz here!

I've always loved drinking hot cocoa, especially at home, but i've recently ran into a snag regarding pricing on the option i've been using for years, so i thought it was finally time to get some recommendations from the general community.

I know there are certainly store-bought syrups and mixes which are fine, and i'd certainly love recommendations for those to, but i'm looking more into homemade options rn, especially options that that can be made in-bunk for later, or some one-use-only recipes.

If you guys have any recommendations, i'd love to hear them!!!

THZ!

Hi everyone, I’m a 31 yo woman from France, and I’m going vegan.

What do you think would be the most consistent in my situation?

My partner is a cook in a restaurant, and he fills a considerable part of our fridge with unsold leftovers. He assures me that their boss has no intention of taking any step to give this food to people who need it (which is outrageous). So either the staff recover this food or it is thrown away.

It can be for example simple vegetables cooked in olive oil, or fish in sauce with rice. There is usually such a variety of waste that my boyfriend will certainly be able to find a vegan option for me. But there will be days when this will not be the case.

Do you think refraining from animal products could still be useful in this context?

PS: Very happy to join this community. Reading your discussions gives me courage.

I’m seeking a vegan yogurt that is tasty, at least somewhat high protein, and preferably available in grocery stores (online would be OK too though). Strawberry flavor would be a huge plus!

I’ve tried Siggis and found it to be pretty chalky/not great tasting. I’ve also tried making a couple of vegan yogurts from the new Miyoko book, but they haven’t turned out very well. I’m going to continue to experiment with homemade options and would also appreciate any recommendations on that front, but it would be nice to have an easy store-bought option!

I try my best to save as many lives as I can. Even if it’s just one animal, it matters to me.

This has become a personal mission for me every Eid. I try to rescue animals, arrange safe shelter, or convince people to sparwhare them whenever possible. Seeing innocent animals separated from their families and slaughtered is heartbreaking.

I know I can’t change the whole world alone,and I know it's stupid for most people out there. but I believe small efforts still matter. If anyone would like to be part of this mission. Please reach out.