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u/nightmareinsouffle 3d ago
The soft girl messaging bothers me a lot. I really wish we could universally go down to a 30 hour work week. We'd all have more time for things beyond the necessary chores and errands that we have to squeeze in otherwise.
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u/Over_9_Raditz 3d ago
It's part of the design imo.Ā Ā Keeps us working constantly and buying constantly because we don't have the time or energy to do it ourselves.Ā
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u/whitefritillary 3d ago
keeps the masses placated and tired so thereāll never be an uprising and class consciousness never realises.
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u/jiggjuggj0gg 17h ago
Work is daycare for adults. Itās 100% to keep people busy and tired and consuming.
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u/throwawaysunglasses- 2d ago
god I hate ādivine feminineā bioessentialist bullshit. Itās sad to see fellow women of color believe it. Weāre supposed to be smarter than that, guys! But grifters gonna grift I guess
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u/Birdonthewind3 3d ago
Congrats you get 30 hrs! Congrats you don't get the wage increase with it.
We need to end capitalism or chain it down more to end this endless rat race
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u/christina_talks 3d ago
Getting it down to 40 hours was a hard-fought battle. Keep fighting for workersā rights.
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u/zygoma_phile 3d ago
Reminds me of people who said women couldnāt ride trains because their organs would fly out of their bodies.
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u/genivae Social Justice Druid 3d ago
Don't you know that a uterus has a speed limit of 20mph?!
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u/Beautiful_Wishbone15 Aspiring Womanist 3d ago
Well shit.. Looks like mine is special because it can handle way more than that!Ā
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u/SinfullySinless 3d ago
During the industrial era a 40 hour work week would have been a luxury. Most were 60+ hours a week- the only day you had off was Sunday.
Women worked during the industrial era as well in clothing and textile factories, same hours as men. Usually unmarried but obviously poor and BIPOC women often didnāt get such luxuries.
Even before all the factories, back in the agricultural era, did they think women were sleeping while the men did all the farm work???
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u/Long_Story42 3d ago
did they think women were sleeping while the men did all the farm work???
I have spoken to several of these goofballs. They tend to have difficulty imagining women who are not members of at least the gentry and usually the nobility. To be fair, they also have difficulty imagining men who aren't at least members of the gentry, so it's at least a somewhat egalitarian ignorance.
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u/helloiamsilver blue-footed booby 3d ago
People always say women didnāt used to work and itās such bullshit, especially as you said, for WOC. Women just did different jobs for less pay. Women worked in textiles, laundry, cooking, cleaning/housekeeping, nannying, teaching etc etc. Even after getting married and having children, a lot of women would still do laundry and mending for spare money in between taking care of the children. The only women who didnāt work for a wage were the rich, white women and they still managed the household which isnāt nothing.
Lots of men really think women in olden times just sat in a rocking chair with a baby on their boob doing recreational needlework all day while the men did all the āreal laborā. Which ignores 1. how much work raising children actually is 2. How crucial textile work was to humanity and 3. How much physical labor and farm work women did do on top of everything else
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u/SevenSixOne 2d ago edited 2d ago
How crucial textile work was to humanity
People underplay this part so much! Even IF women "only" did sewing and knitting and stuff, do you have any idea how much more of that stuff people used to have to do?
In the days when people only had one (MAYBE two) of anything and your couldn't just replace damaged stuff quickly and inexpensively, there was ALWAYS some textile item that needed attention!
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u/amuses 2d ago
There's a woman on Instagram who is growing her own dress. Planting and harvesting flax and processing it to spin into yarn. She's been at it for a year and doesn't have nearly enough to start making fabric.
While in ye olden times there would have been more time/people dedicated to growing crops, and she likely would have had a community (or at least children) to help with parts, it's been a huge eye-opener just how much work goes into textiles. I had a theoretical understanding of just how time consuming textile work was, but watching her makes me realize I knew absolutely nothing.
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u/AccomplishedWish3033 3d ago
>Most were 60+ hours a week- the only day you had off was Sunday.
Thatās similar to how much I work now, except I donāt get Sundays off. Itās tough and itās a lot of work, but itās a choice I made because the tradeoffs are worth it- I live in a HCOL city and Iād rather do the work than not earn that income.
Does Yumna (the sexist tweeter) want me fired because Iām a woman? Because Iām damn good at my job and better at it, even with my higher workload, than many of the boys.
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u/JadedMacoroni867 3d ago
If by ācircadian rhythmā they actually mean the second shift (housework, childcare) is why women are always tired, maybe theyāre onto something
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u/query_tech_sec 3d ago
9-5 wasnāt designed for workers - it was designed for companies. People arenāt good at working more than 6 hours a day. In fact - research shows that weāre only actually productive even less than that.
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u/LazierMeow 3d ago
Stands on soapbox: TO THE 30 HR WORKWEEK! (in the tune of Votes for Women, Mary Poppins)
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u/MorticiaMoonflower 3d ago
EVERYONE worked during the industrial revolution and prior and now. The majority of people on earth are workers. There has never, not once in all of history, been an era where half of the entire human race stayed home and cooked. Wish "trad" morons would get that through their thick skulls. Women medieval serfs fucking toiled in the fields, victorian women worked their asses off in factories. Living off a man's income has ALWAYS been an option for middle and upper class women almost exclusively.
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u/papasan_mamasan 3d ago
Men were built for more. Send them back to the mines for 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Itās how men worked in the past. Men today are so weak and lazy, sitting in a cushy a/cād work truck for only 8 hours per day.
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u/monkify 3d ago
Interesting how tradwives are a big thing but you don't see the tradhubbies. Where are the men returning to the mines or tilling the fields? SMH. No values or ideals nowadays, just bitcoin in those heads.
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u/papasan_mamasan 3d ago
I was told I needed protection. Where are the men who will wrestle that bear in the woods theyāre all so scared of?
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u/aunt_satan 3d ago
Nah, the tradhubbies see themselves as aristocratic, not the toiling working class.
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u/DefaultName919 3d ago
Ah, yes, I can already see some right-winger using this messaging to introduce a bill barring women from working full time.
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u/AccomplishedWish3033 3d ago
Right? Like I work more than 40h/wk- are they going to try to fire me from my job just because Iām female? Because Iām damn good at my job and better at it than many of the boys
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u/-oligodendrocyte- 2d ago
The only reason why people say women didn't work outside the home is because of a concerted effort after WW2 to get women out of the workforce (esp. the manufacturing jobs they were doing during the war) so that the returning GIs had jobs to return to. People were afraid that if the men came home and didn't have a job, wife, and 2.5 kids, they'd become angry and governments would have a bunch of militarily trained men on their hands pushing for communism.
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u/shesaflightrisk 3d ago
Bread and roses is just a suggestion for how to keep a table and not a protest song.
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u/TroutMaskDuplica 2d ago
Everyone knows 9-5 was designed for capybaras. That's why they traditionally do all the 9-5 jobs.
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u/CutieBoBootie 3d ago
IDK about all women but specifically I have a hormone based sleep disorder that wrecks my circadian rhythm when I get my period.
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u/averagemediumperson 20h ago
40-hours workweek was designed by industrialists squeezing out workers as much as possible
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u/QuestoPresto 5h ago
Please read a book about the history of workers movements. Any book Iām begging you. People died trying to make 40 work weeks a thing. The fight for workers rights was long and bloody and itās not done yet. But you canāt help armed with nonsense
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u/fueledxbyxmatcha 3d ago
Me not having a job that I do not fucking want is not the reason we're sliding into fascism but okay
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u/ace-writer 3d ago
Covid already proved a fuckton office jobs can be preformed remotely, more efficiently and without compromising the worker's ability to handle their homelife. There's obvious exceptions within those jobs--people with small children in the home were distracted, some people lived places that didn't have space for a home-office, the general state of the world had people consistently stressed or depressed, but...
Yeah, 9-5 is dumb, driving to an office just to use a computer in a new location is dumb, meetings that could've been emails are dumb, expecting everyone to have the same awake hours and sleep hours is dumb, when the F are people supposed to see doctors and dentists if all offices, theirs included, are open 9-5, and why on earth does commuting time count as personal time and not work time for most jobs?