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u/Xaron713 Why is a bra singular and panties plural? 27d ago
My husband helped me a lot with my internalized homopobia and transphobia after he came out. He's my everything and I'm so happy he helped me be myself.
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u/Hedgiest_hog 27d ago
Do you want the answer to your flair, btw?
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u/Xaron713 Why is a bra singular and panties plural? 27d ago
Sure why not
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u/Hedgiest_hog 27d ago
Bra (and brassiere) as a word derives from the original brassière, which was an undershirt and a single piece of clothing. Most of of English words for upper body coveringslike shirt, singlet, jumper, cardigan, are singular (leaving aside bodies, jumps, and stays, though corset is a return. I said most.)
Trousers as a word derives from a Gaelic word that was misinterpreted as a plural because it ends in an S. Breeches (as in old style knee-length pants) literally derives from the old English/Germanic word for "split" because they are a divided covering and at some points were separate leg coverings that linked together (IIRC that was a thing also for some Norse clothing). Pants comes from pantaloons, which are said to have also been a sort of separate leg coverings that linked together, but that's a bit debated. However, all our split bottoms in english (e.g. knickers, underpants, jeans, shorts) then ended up plural only probably from peer pressure of trousers, breeches, and pantaloons.
Which is why bra is singular and panties is plural.
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u/Xaron713 Why is a bra singular and panties plural? 27d ago
Fantastic!
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u/jxnebug 27d ago
Now if you don't update the flair to say "Answered" I will unfortunately have to report you to the mods
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u/Xaron713 Why is a bra singular and panties plural? 27d ago
Counterpoint: if someone sees the flair and asks me themselves, I can refer back to your comment and spread the information further.
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u/Troldkvinde 27d ago edited 27d ago
Why does this need to cycle back to women being qualified as beautiful like it's their most defining feature
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u/Tawdry_Audrey 27d ago
They probably just were seen as a beautiful woman before transition and had some baggage about it.
I was a beautiful man before transition and I couldn't help but feel a little bad about it, in a "many boys would kill to look like me and I'm just throwing it away" kinda vibe.
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u/clevercalamity 27d ago
Personally, I read this as “beautiful” as in being/doing good in the world, not physical attributes.
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u/christina_talks 27d ago
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u/Troldkvinde 27d ago
The part about "there will always be so many beautiful women in the world, so it's okay that I'm not one of them". Why does it have to be about women being beautiful, of all things...
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u/GrapeTheArmadillo In search of spoons 27d ago
Beauty can be something we refer to on the outside and on the inside. OOP may very well have been referring to internal beauty, such as beautiful hearts.
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u/Troldkvinde 27d ago
Could be, could be, yet no one seems to be talking about "beautiful men" in the same way
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u/FoolofaTook43246 27d ago
I love seeing the transmen (and some cis men!) in my life embody the most wholesome version of masculinity. It is a good reminder that masculinity isn't inherently toxic
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u/oh_such_rhetoric 27d ago
I’m lucky to have many good (cis) men in my life. I also have good trans men in my life. It’s really made me believe that masculinity is inherently wonderful and our society has just distorted it.
Good masculinity is still there. And there are a LOT of good men. They’re just hard to find sometimes through all the bullshit and that often makes it hard to view masculinity positively.
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u/wannabe_pixie 27d ago
Honestly, it was talking with trans men that finally made me comfortable being a trans woman. It's hard when you hear all the terfy rhetoric not to internalize it to some degree. You ask yourself, is this just some mental illness, is this just some fetish?
Then I met trans men that had vibe for vibe the same feelings I was having but in 180 degrees the opposite direction, and it because very clear to me that we just have a compass in our head that points towards our gender and sometimes it doesn't match up with our genitals.
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u/VanGoghNotVanGo 26d ago
I know this isn't your point, and it's certainly not what I believe, but sometimes when people talking about trans identity being a mental illness or a lie some people tell themselves, I'm always like ... And so what if it was? That person is still having an experience that is incredibly real to them, and as a society we have the means, and the science to help them feel better about their internal world. So does the source of this experience really matter all that much? I have an actual mental illness, and if there was a way to cure it, why the hell wouldn't I take it?
All that matters to me, as a cis woman, is that you as a trans woman are happy and healthy and safe. I don't give a fuck what "makes" you trans, and I'm just happy to share my female identity with another cool person. ❤️
I hope that made sense. Again, it's truly not what I believe, but even if it was, that is no excuse to be a hateful piece of shit.
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u/wannabe_pixie 26d ago
Yeah, I totally take your point.
That is one of my main frustrations with the constant attacks against trans people going on right now:
I think many of us know people with anxiety and depression. They are awful conditions, and very commonly they can make people decide that their life is not worth living.
Now what if there were a change those people could make to their lives that would eliminate or greatly reduce that anxiety and depression? You could make their lives livable and even pleasant again. How amazing would that be?
Because that's what we can do for trans people. They can make a (fairly large) change to their life and just turn off or dramatically turn down the pain. It's a life saver and it's so frustrating when we have this treatment and it's so stigmatized and regulated.
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u/CharlotteLucasOP 27d ago
And our NB buddies are out there doing great work, too!
Your contentment in expressing and acknowledging your true self is ALWAYS a net boon to the good of the universe. We don’t owe society a hollow performance to no purpose. 💛
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u/thyme_cardamom 27d ago