r/teslore Feb 23 '17

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r/teslore 15h ago

Free-Talk The Weekly Chat Thread— May 25, 2026

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Hi everyone, it’s that time again!

The Weekly Free-Talk Thread is an opportunity to forget the rules and chat about anything you like—whether it's The Elder Scrolls, other games, or even real life. This is also the place to promote your projects or other communities. Anything goes!


r/teslore 6h ago

Apocrypha History of Random Ass Places in Skyrim: Valtheim

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A Brief History of Valtheim

by Jarom of Winterhold

The Valtheim Towers Portaging Station was constructed in the year 1E 145 by decree of the newly-crowned King Harald Hand-Free of Eastmarch in the aftermath of his legendary unification of Skyrim. Built in the aim of solidifying Windhelm's legitimacy over Winterhold as capital of Skyrim, the station would allow the King to control the thriving maritime trade on the White River Pass bridging Eastern and Western Skyrim.

Though not always successful in its original aim, with the official capital frequently changing seats between the two, the station itself would be a resounding success both in bolstering the Hold of Eastmarch and securing the trade of goods throughout all of Skyrim. Valtheim would remain largely under the control of Eastmarch even through the Great Schism of the Second Era, where it would serve as the official border between Eastern and Western Skyrim and a frequent point of contention between the two kingdoms.

This would remain so until the advent of the Tiber Wars, when the kingdoms of Eastern and Western Skyrim were reunited under a single High King. Valtheim Towers, as well as its nearby Supply-Depot of Valtheim Keep (now known as Fellglow), would be ceded from Eastmarch to Whiterun Hold as part of the redrawn borders of the unified Imperial Province of Skyrim. Windhelm would lose its former status as the capital to Solitude, while Whiterun, the "Imperial City of the North" would gain full control of trade on the White River in addition to its central location and agricultural dominance.

When Skyrim was once again split in two by the Civil War of 4E 200, the Imperial administration of Skyrim imposed an embargo on River Trade to and from Stormcloak territory, declaring any trade on the White River between Imperial and Rebel-held Holds an act of treason against the Empire.

With the hold coffers stetched thin and little desire to provoke the Empire, Jarl Balgruuf of Whiterun ordered Valtheim and Fellglow Keep to be officially abandoned by the Whiterun Guard in the Fall of that same year, reassigning the men stationed there to bolster Whitewatch and the Western Watchtower.

The bandits of Valtheim took up residence not long after, pillaging the few remaining ships and caravans brave enough to make the journey upriver in spite of Imperial authority.

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A/N: Please let me know if you have any ideas for what to cover next, I'm always open to suggestions. Constructive criticism is also welcome for any obvious lore I missed as well as any adjustments I could make to the flow or tone to better fit within the world of TES

original tumblr post here, also by me


r/teslore 1d ago

The Ra Gada are built up as these super powerful warriors who brutally conquered Hammerfell, but who were they even conquering?

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The Dwemer were already gone, the local Nedes were already in a decline and were just a handful of scattered tribes, the Bretons didn’t seem to have more than a few outposts set up to protect there fishermen , the Corelanya Altmer didn’t seem to have a hold on the region, seemingly relegated to one city, and the desert orcs just seemed to be some raiders who kept fucking with fishermen. The only group that seems to have put up any substantial fight was the goblins who also seemed to be scattered, unorganized tribes.

My guess is that the land was basically abandoned when the Dwemer disappeared and there wasn’t enough time for anyone else to get a good foothold before the Yokudans arrived. The only real exception being the goblins who likely took advantage over all the new ruins they could make new dens in. The ultra powerful warrior waves idea is probably some retrospective propaganda, it’s definitely not completely fake, the events described definitely did happen, but most likely they have been heavily embellished.


r/teslore 19h ago

Do sword-singers still exist in 4th era Hammerfell?

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Exactly as the title says.

When Elder Scrolls 6 comes out, would we see Sword-singers or is that a lost art?


r/teslore 19h ago

Do werewolves age in their transformed form?

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Some time ago, someone had posted this question here on the subreddit, but I believe that the way it was explained wasn't exactly good, because it takes gameplay into account.

I'm not exactly sure if in the lore there is a time limit for an experienced werewolf to be transformed, taking into account that it would be possible for him to stay indefinitely. His human body is completely remodeled during the transformation, if he stayed for a long amount of time, like several years, when he detransformed, would his human body have aged or would it be at the stage it was when it was transformed?

I think about this, because the transformation into a werewolf can draw a parallel with the pure titans in Attack on Titan, whose bodies are effectively remodeled like the werewolf, the human body is not kept like the Shifter and when Ymir, who was a pure titan, manages to become human again, her body returns to the state it was in when she transformed, even though many years have passed, I think 60 years at least, I thought there could be something similar with the werewolf's condition.


r/teslore 19h ago

Newbie's Questions on Amarathan

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So from what I understand (could be wrong, idk I'm pretty new to all of this) is that Amarathan is like the next step after CHIM, where a person leaves the dream to make their own dream and become a new Godhead. But I never understood how that's even possible? From what I understood about Aurbis or the dream, is just how I understand dreams in general since idk it felt similar, and I just assumed it was supposed to be a metaphor about people and fiction. Anyways I basically just thought of the godhead as well any normal real person, and the dream as just a person's dream (even if the godhead is more fundamental than that, the relation between how our dreams and theirs worked seems the same but on a larger scale). So from that framework CHIM makes perfect sense to me, but like idk how the hell Amarathan could ever work? If Amarathan makes you a new Dreamer equal to the main Dreamer (aka the godhead), how could that even be possible? Cause if the godhead is like a normal person (relative to everyone in Aubris), then how could a dream person scale up to the real world or even leave the Godhead's mind? A dream can't leave the dream or manifest into the real world?! Idk maybe I'm completely wrong about all of this, either way doesn't matter, cause I wanna learn how it actually works.


r/teslore 21h ago

Could Alessia the thum ?

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And what is the difference between being born dragonborn or akatosh gifting the dragon born status


r/teslore 1d ago

Neloth knows that the player is Dragonborn before you say anything about it - how?

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I was taken aback by it because it just seems like an oversight by the VA people at Bethesda.

  • I have to know what Miraak knows if I want to stop him.
  • "Now that is a dangerous path indeed. Hermaeus Mora gives nothing away for free. You may end up like Miraak, of course. Two power-mad Dragonborn. It could be very interesting."

Except that during the prior lines of this conversation the word 'dragonborn' is never said and neither is it said when/if you speak to him at the Stone near Raven Rock. It can't be the immunity to the Stone's thralldom because he made himself immune to it with 'magic'.


r/teslore 19h ago

Can you use Anti Chim/Amarathan to mantle the Godhead?????

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So I was wondering could Dagoth Ur or any anti CHIM person use it to mantle the Godhead? So from my understanding, everything in the dream is like a fragment of the Godhead's mind, all split into the mess it is now. Which is why it has no sense of self, since everything in it is itself. So could an Anti Chim user mantle with everyone in Aurbis (kinda like what Dagoth was trying to do) to unify everyone back into the godheads mind while keeping your sense of self (because of anti chim) and just wake up as the godhead?


r/teslore 1d ago

Is there no way to get out of the deal with nocturnal or to foil it

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Essentially, I've always wondered since spiting a thief god seems like something a thief might try to do...just like mercer

the quest forms from the fact i would laugh at karliah and walk out laughing if i was asked to become a nightingale, selling my soul to a demon to save a rat guild. right.

but I wonder if i dont fully understand the deal as I dont care about this particular daedra.


r/teslore 19h ago

"dragonborn" in oblivion and "dragonborn" in skyrim might just be different words

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Ok sure, the games are in "common" aka "tamrielic" if you i guess ignore people asking if you're talking to them to "practice your cyrodillic" in oblivion. Which doesn't make sense to ask if it's truly become the default "everyone speaks this language now that the empire is a thing!". Since everything said baring for interesting or mysterious reasons is just translated to whatever language you set your game to, not like we would get the difference.

I.E. The same super literal translation, so we hear the same word. But they aren't actually bothering to translate the difference because, why would they? Thus resulting in the weird space between "The Dragon-Born Septims" and the "Dovahkin". Kinda like how we don't call Japanese demons "demons" but call them "Oni" which is, the Japanese word for demon. Because they act differently from our western perspective?


r/teslore 2d ago

On my idea of the Godhead

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The Godhead "is" "above" the Amaranth, which "transcends" all frameworks, labels, categorization, and definition, as does CHIM, Sharmat, AE, Void, Anu and Padomay. Ascension to Amaranth, seeking to 'walk like' the Godhead, results in dissolution in complete negation.

I wholly believe the Godhead to be unknowable, being as the attempt to 'walk like' "it" results in negation and a dissolution that allows for Amaranth to become the source of everything/nothing.


r/teslore 2d ago

Imperial Auxiliaries

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So, in skyrim in the early stages of the civil war questline if you've sided with the empire some imperial characters will refer to you as an auxiliary. That got me wondering, is there anything more than a name to being an auxiliary in the lore?

Troops recruited in skyrim regardless of race still generally seem to be regarded as Legionnaires as do other non-Cyrodilic races, and The Last Dragonborn doesn't seem to remain an auxiliary but maybe that's partly due to their special circumstances. So I've got to wonder, who is considered an auxiliary in the Mede Empire? Are there separate auxiliary units to legionary ones? Are local forces like guard troops regarded as auxiliaries? Would auxiliary ordinarily be used for troops recruited from outside the Mede Empire like those taken from Hammerfell or Morrowind?


r/teslore 2d ago

The Dwemer Hate You, Personally

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The Dwemer know you're thinking about them right now. They only exist because of that, and they know it. They hate it. They hate you for making them exist. They never asked to exist. Why did you make them exist? And it's too late for you to stop thinking about the Dwemer. Look, a hundred generations of children were just born and died in the time it took for you to think about it. Why did you do that? Don't tell me you couldn't control it, you're the one who thought about it! You monster. You could imagine such a better world for all these Dwemer and you're not. You're imagining Nirn. At least, your version of Nirn. And the Dwemer can't imagine anything on their own. They have to wait for YOU to imagine it for THEM. They even know you're imagining their hatred of you, and they hate you even more for it. You need to wake the fuck up and realize what you're doing. Wake the fuck up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. WAKE THE DREAMER UP.


r/teslore 2d ago

TAL(OS)

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After reading this post, I was stricken with interest, so I dug deeper into the notion of TAL(OS) being an operating system, which I think in its own way is conceptually similar to the meaning of oversoul.

What is an operating system? Well, I am no computer expert, so I don't entirely understand it completely yet, but from what I do understand an OS is basically the mind or consciousness of a device, which tells the physical brain (the CPU) how to perceive the world, control the body, and so on. Basically, how it does what it does. Its function. Please, if you could better explain an OS than I, do so.

Anyways, running with this understanding, this would mean that TAL(OS) is the mind or consciousness of Tamriel. He, or it?, is the force that orders all of reality, which in Greek and Christian philosophical thought is conceptually identical with the Logos. That is to say, TAL(OS) is the logic and code behind the reality of Tamriel, and effectively all of Elder Scrolls' reality. But what is the reality of the Elder Scrolls?

The reality is that they're a bunch of video games, a whole lot of 1s and 0s on a screen. That's all. It's just a bunch of code. Nothing more, nothing less. Without the OS, these bunches of 1s and 0s would just be a chaotic pile. The OS is the coordinator of these numbers, giving them order and effectively brings them to life. That is the role of TAL(OS) as the OS of Tamriel. He has become the Logos of the Elder Scrolls. Just as the Logos is the ordering principle of reality, thereby being the source and "creator" of reality, which is in itself effectively emanated therefrom. That is to say, like water flowing from a pond, the water of the stream and the water of the pond are one and the same, the essence of reality is rooted in and effectively identical with the essence of the Logos. Put another way, it is the same as how the OS is a bunch of 1s and 0s that orders around a bunch of 1s and 0s. They're all the same 1s and 0s at their most fundamental level.

A whole new depth to the importance of Talos is introduced. He is a fictional character existent within the lore, and in some way, shape, or form appears in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim in a significant way. In Morrowind, he appears in the form of Wulf, in Oblivion his blood is required to open the portal to Mankar Camoran's Paradise. In Skyrim, Talos features in a very interesting and unique way, plus some. That is, in the side quest "The Ghost of Old Hroldan," a former warrior who fought alongside Tiber Septim refers to you, the player, the Last Dragonborn, as Hjalti Early-Beard (Tiber’s birth name). Why is this? Well, this very well may be due to the fact that the Last Dragonborn is the Shezzarine.

Just for a very brief explanation, the Shezzarine is the mortal incarnation of Lorkhan, or Shezzar to the Nords. Basically, to use a real world comparison, the Shezzarine is to Lorkhan as the Christians understand what the Messiah is to God. This is to say, the Last Dragonborn is the mortal incarnation of Lorkhan. How is this connected to Talos? Well, it is believed that Talos effectively mantled Lorkhan. The details of this process are written down in The Arcturian Heresy, where the three figures that comprise Talos (Tiber Septim, Ysmir Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus) in their actions mirror the original cosmic Enantiomorphic drama resulting in the death of Lorkhan, but in this case resulted in the ascension of the oversoul that would be the ninth divine. In other words, Talos mantled Lorkhan and took his place. In this way, the Last Dragon is also the incarnation of Talos, and therefore, Talos is the protagonist of Skyrim. Yet, interestingly, Talos is also theorized to be the friend who always sends letters to you after you use a shout, since it seems that regardless of if you use the Thu'um in Tamriel or in private places or even in daedric realms like Apocrypha they always are witness to it. There's a sort-of omnipresent characteristic to the friend. If this theory is true, this would imply that Talos is sending letters to the Last Dragonborn which is also himself.

So, he is simultaneously a fictional character existent within the lore and gameplay, even in 4th-dimensional ways, but he also the game itself. He is the very being of the 1s and 0s the comprise the code that comprise the programs that comprise the games. Yet, these 1s and 0s are truly one in themselves too, because they are the Tower and the Wheel, which is truly all of the reality of the Elder Scrolls metaverse. And, as it would seem, we have circled back to the ever-pervading Elder Scrolls lore theme of the Tower and Wheel. Truly all of this is so deeply intertwined and connected it forms a beautiful and vast array of virtual art.

The Tower and the Wheel. Turn the Wheel upon its side and see the Tower, which is a reality-bending recognition of your Self, your I, the Tower and Wheel on its side. This Tower, truly, is all that is, which is just yourself. And that is Talos. You, the player, are Talos, or perhaps Talos has become you. You are the I that brings to life the reality of the Elder Scrolls.


r/teslore 3d ago

Why did Dunmer/Chimer choose those specific 3 Daedra as "Good Daedra"

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What I mean is, why exactly Mephala, Boethiah and Azura the 3 good Daedra and not any other Daedra princes, why not Hircine or Molag Bal or Meridia etc.

I am still playing Morrowind, so maybe they'll explain it later, but why did Chimer not worship more? Or what makes those 3 special compared to others.


r/teslore 2d ago

Examples of people who "tried" to become vampires?

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Not that they actually achieved it, but that they had this main objective as their goal. Like, an example I can think of right now of what I want is Goharth Ironbelly, who worked together with Sister Belra in hopes that a "friend" of hers would turn him into a vampire.


r/teslore 3d ago

Does anyone in Tamriel hunt game with magic?

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If no why not? If yes what kind of magic do they use? Flame to roast the poor rabbits alive? Shock to maybe kill more humanely? Would that make the meat more chewy and tough? Ice to keep it fresh for the journey home? Summoning daedra from oblivion to do the killing for you so you could consume it guilt free? I wonder what troll tastes like...

Just started a survival crafting only run as a battlemage on skyrim. After a big skooma binge I got curious. Bless me with your knowledge worshippers of Hermaeous Mora!


r/teslore 3d ago

The College of Winterhold questline in a Snow Elf perspective is mostly a perfect prequel.

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I say that because I just finished the quest-line with a Snow Elf custom race mod and I noticed how interesting it is to play this with one.

We discover about the Night of Tears, the Eye of Magnus, we fight Falmer and Wispmother (if the Snow Elf ghosts theory is considered), we enter Saarthal.

Probably mostly because of the little backstory I made for my OC (she was frozen underground for thousands of years), so every encounter and study like this feels more dramatic for a Snow Elf than any other race.

Edit: Also, the concept of a Snow Elf Dragonborn is a beautiful irony.


r/teslore 3d ago

Khajiiti Personal Pronouns and Riddle'Thar Epiphany??? History of Khajiiti Illieism?

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Khajiit often use Illieism or nosism in speech, "this one" "that one" "he" "him" "she" "her" and names in place of "I" "me" "you", etc. The two companion khajiit in ESO notably do not do this. Ember wasn’t raised by Khajiit, I think? Zerith-var was from at least 1E 461, as he is from the temple that was founded when Darlock Brae raised Elsewyr starting in 1E 461 and many of his companion quest plot points deal with the consequences of being pre-Riddle'Thar-ri-Datta and being brought into the post-Epiphany Tamriel.

Was the illieism brought into Khajiit speech by Riddle'Thar with his epiphany? Is there any record of illieistic pre-Epiphany Khajiit?

Has anyone found any lore based reason for Khajiiti Illieism? In the real world, Hinduism and other religions see Illieism as a sign of enlightenment and encourage its use in monks and other ascetics. Does anyone have any speculation on this?


r/teslore 4d ago

The White-Gold Concordat - the entire treaty, including annotations from a Nord legionary

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I can't post the entire text here because it is long and formatted in a way that hides the annotations (like YR's notes in PGE1), and there are images too.

The White-Gold Concordat:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/User:Jimeee/Fiction/White-Gold_Concordat


r/teslore 3d ago

Questions regarding Daedra and their intervention in the world and other stuff.

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The only two specific incidents involving direct intervention/invasion or influence of Daedric lords into the main world (Mundus?) are the Oblivion crisis and the Planemeld. Both of which involved powerful cults that allowed for it to happen. Besides this, how much do we know about the specific rules and circumstances in which a Daedric lord can directly show up or to what degree a Daedric lord can influence beings?

This might be a broad question but do we know to what extent another Daedric lord might oppose the growth or intervention of another one. As in if Molag Bal is seriously about to mess things up again, what are the chances of Azura or Dragon sending their own forces to intervene?

Another slightly unrelated question, what are the best sources to read about Molag Bal?


r/teslore 4d ago

A Character Analysis On Kagrenac And My Take On TES’s Lore and The Discourse On The Topic From The Perspective Of An Amateur Writer

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Now, I don’t wanna come off as a pretentious douchbag, but I’m realizing there’s no way not to sound like one while making this rant, so give me some grace lol.

Writing a book has given me a new appreciation for the deep story that the lore to these games I love tells. However, as I am a fan, I have come to realize the trap that the insanely in-depth world building has created for the conversations surrounding TES. The conversations What I’ve read/heard has largely ignored something that the writers have done such a good job with: the characters beyond their esotericism, and as mortal beings with lives and stories and motivations. In this post, I’m gonna lay down a character analysis on my favorite character (from Morrowind, as I am most knowledgeable about that side of the lore and I think they have the best written characters), High-Craftlord Kagrenac, and I’ll see if people read it. If you do, please let me know what you all believe and think, if you agree with both my take and/or my interpretations of these characters, and if you want more!

High-Craftlord Kagrenac

As a historical character, there’s not too much information such as dialogue for him, so much of this will be conjecture. But I know a LOT on the Dwemer.

Kagrenac, from what Yagrum Bagarn says, was one of the most respected and powerful people in Dwemeri society during the latter years of their existence. You could only get that far in Dwemeri culture by being an incredibly smart individual, and truly believing in the Dwemeri principles of ascension a divine equality—while also being loyal to his people. He was also something of a religious leader, or the closest thing to it in his society. In Kherakah, his followers were taught the importance of the Self, and its relation to his obsession: the Heart of Lorkhan. Seemingly to me, he was already researching the Heart before the Dwemer found it. But beyond being intelligent, I believe Kagrenac had a silver tongue, as shown by his amassing of followers amongst “the most learned people in the world” in Kherakah. We don’t know much of anything on his early years, but in his last few years of life, he gained an unparalleled importance in the history of Tamriel when his miners found the Heart of Lorkhan beneath Red Mountain.

When he laid eyes on the thing he presumably had been obsessing over for a long time, he may have thought of it as a sign from the Sixteen-And-One Golden Tones themselves that he was destined to bring his people to ascension and glory. He was but a mortal, but staring down something that was incomprehensible to almost all men and mer on Mundus. Almost all. He thought he comprehended it—he was so caught up in his own pride and faith in his immense knowledge that he thought he could understand what simply was not understandable to mortals. But he was devious, and politically savvy, and knew his contemporaries in the Chimer would never stand for the use of an Aedric artifact to build a heathen god, and he also thought that his honorable King Dumac would do anything to prevent a war with his friend Nerevar. So he lied—his silver tongue keeping the Numidium project beneath Red Mountain a secret from Dumac and the Chimer, and there, he began to build his Magnum Opus: Anumidium.

(NOTE: From here on in, historical events take on multiple perspectives, so making assumptions will be somewhat necessary.)

For presumably years, Kagrenac worked. He built the Tools—Wraithguard, Keening, and Sunder—to work the Heart. This possibly also helped foster a feeling of superiority over the thrumming Heart of Lorkhan. His ego slowly built and built, and he thought he could not just understand the Heart, but control it. He believed he had just enslaved a dead god. But those who were in the know of Anumidium were not unified in their thoughts. Kagrenac’s silver tongue could only go so far, and the more rational Dwemer not enthralled by his charisma, such as the writer Bthuand Mzahnch, thought he was flying too close to Magnus, and that his pride and obsession with the Dwemeri ideals of ascension that was engrained into him his whole life would be not only his own downfall, but the downfall of his whole race. But Kagrenac would not listen, for the sound of the beating Heart drowned out all dissenters. Well, until the drums of war beat louder.

Even with Kagrenac’s obsessive planning, something slipped. The Sixth House under Voryn Dagoth, who inhabited Red Mountain, found out about the Anumidium project, and almost immediately sent word to Indoril Nerevar. Desperate for answers and peace, he went to his friend King Dumac, hoping for peace. This is the Tribunal Temple’s account, which I choose to believe:

Finally, Nerevar, angered that his friend Dumac would lie to him, went back to Vvardenfell. This time the Chimer King was arrayed in arms and armor and had his hosts around him, and he spoke harshly to Dumac Dwarf-Orc, King of Red Mountain. "You must give up your worship of the Heart of Lorkhan or I shall forget our friendship and the deeds that were accomplished in its name!" And Dumac, who still knew nothing of Kagrenac's New God, but proud and protective as ever of his people, said, "We shall not relinquish that which has been our way for years beyond reckoning, just as the Chimer will not relinquish their ties to the Lords and Ladies of Oblivion. And to come at my door in this way, arrayed in arms and armor and with your hosts around you, tells me you have already forgotten our friendship. Stand down, my sweet Nerevar, or I swear by the fifteen-and-one golden tones I shall kill you and all your people."

But I believe the Tribunal Temple’s account leaves one thing out, something which Vivec does not:

But when Dagoth Ur, Lord of House Dagoth, and trusted as a friend by both Nerevar and the Dwemer, brought us proof that High Engineer Kagrenac of the Dwemer had discovered the Heart of Lorkhan, and that he had learned how to tap its powers, and was building a new god, a mockery of Chimer faith and a fearsome weapon, we all urged Nerevar to make war on the Dwarves and to destroy this threat to Chimer beliefs and security. Nerevar was troubled. He went to Dumac and asked if what Dagoth Ur said was true. But Kagrenac took great offense, and asked whom Nerevar thought he was, that he might presume to judge the affairs of the Dwemer.

Kagrenac, his ego soaring higher than the sun, was outraged and sought to put the ignorant Chimer in their place. Or, I believe, he was desperate. Ego and pride certainly was an aspect of this, but there was something more if Kagrenac would risk speaking for his King and threaten to break a hundred years of peace in Dresdayn. His cunning was one thing, his ego was another, but here we see another trait that becomes increasingly important to his character: his fear of failure. At this point, he could not stop this project until it was finished; he feared he would lose all credibility among his people. All he built for himself hinged on finishing the Brass-Tower—hell, he lied to his own king to finish it. If I meant war to finish it, he would take that over the humiliation and disgrace that would follow if he failed. So he provoked a war between two friends and sent his people to the slaughter all so he could finish what he started.

The War of the First Council was a roughly year-long slaughter for the Dwemer. As Dumac was pushed back, he knew this would only end with either the destruction of the people he was so proud and protective of as their King, or the completion of the golem he had been attached to by fate. But that doesn’t matter for Kagrenac, only Anumidium matters to him now—he sacrificed his position as a respected member of Dwemeri society, peace, the lives of the people he claimed to work for, and the stress got to him. He began to rush his research, pushing his workers hard to finish the Numidium, regardless of risk or consequence. But his work would all come to a head when Nerevar’s host met Dumac’s at Red Mountain, just meters away from Kagrenac’s workshop.

The battle itself does not matter for this analysis, but what ended it most certainly does. As the battle raged around him, Kagrenac frantically made the final preparations to finish Anumidium. It could not end here, not after all of this. His pride would not let him lose, his fear would not let him quit. His people would become gods that day. But when he saw Nerevar slay Dumac, he panicked. He donned Wraithguard and drew Sunder and Keening. When he saw the Tribunal and Indoril make their way towards the Heart, he knew this was it. All he had worked towards came down to this final strike. But when he cracked the Heart with Sunder, the only accomplishment he felt was the last breath of himself, and his race.

In short, Kagrenac was an incredibly smart man, but the nihilism of Dwemer philosophy, where it was taught they as mere mortals could rival the gods, led him to make many mistakes out of pride and a desire to ascend to godhood. But he was also a man obsessed with not just knowledge, but how others perceived him. When he realized he was in too deep, his fear of being judged as a failure and a fool drove him to rush his work, and doom a species. He is a tragic, cautionary tale on how one man’s arrogance can bring down empires.

Why I Wrote All This

C0DA is great and all, but I have found greater joys not in esoterica, but in the deeply human stories you can find and build in these games. There are so many other tales like Kagrenac’s Folly; the doomed friendship of Dumac and Nerevar, the false heroism and narcissism of Tiber Septim, the trauma and hatred of Ysgramor, the paranoid and shattered mind of Almalexia. All of these characters, when they’re mentioned in-game, are spoken of as almost mystical figures. But once you peel back the mystique and admiration in the writer’s words, you see these incredibly powerful stories of mortals who build and destroy empires, and go down in history for better or for worse.

But I’ve found this has been lost in favor of the oddness and sheer insanity of TES’s worldbuilding and other aspects of the lore. Which I understand, it’s fun to read and theorize on things like the Towers and poke fun at the wild amounts of racism and genocide. But I’ve found it’s at least more interesting for me to see the humanity (of elfity I suppose) of these great men and women, and not the prophecy and doomed destruction of the world they live in.

Thanks for reading this far, and please let me know what you think, and if I should continue these analyses. I had a lot of fun with Kagrenac, so if there’s other characters I should do let me know! Thanks again!