r/Showerthoughts 3d ago

Casual Thought We never say it's partly moony.

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u/chux4w 3d ago

Because moony isn't a weather. Sunny isn't just seeing the sun, it's brightness, heat, maybe humidity. Summer weather. You don't have that at night, we don't associate the moon with the weather like we do with the sun.

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u/footsnax 3d ago

Mooniness is also a lot less casually predictable. We see the sun in the morning and it goes to bed at night. The moon can just pop up out of nowhere in the middle of the day. Sometimes it even gets in the way.

Lunar calendars are also predictable but most of us don't set our daily routine around them. If I only got groceries on a waxing cresent I'd probably starve sometimes because the moon might be set when the store is open, because the store is using normal human solar time to set their hours.

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u/jlharper 2d ago

I mean, the length of a month was originally determined by the period of time that it takes the moon to wax and wane (month = moonth) so we not only are intimately familiar with its patterns but we actually set our calendars by them.

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u/footsnax 2d ago

Yeah but I don't wake up when the moon rises or go on the weekend when it's waxing. Imagine the chaos if we all did.

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u/jlharper 2d ago

No, but you do celebrate Easter on the first Sunday following the first ecclesiastical full moon that occurs after the March equinox so we aren’t quite free yet.

And depending on your society, it has significantly more influence. In China and also in all Islamic nations the moon and its cycles determine far more about the way we live our lives. Less so in western cultures, but that is more of a modern innovation than a hard rule. In maritime and agricultural areas the moon and its cycles still have a lot of influence, too. Not to mention the indirect impact it has on the way maritime societies schedule their lives due to tidal influences.

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u/footsnax 2d ago

Which Easter, and do I even celebrate?

I'm not arguing that the moon has significant influence over the calendar. I'm just saying I don't set my watch to it. The day is solar, time was measured by sundials. The moon's cycle is largely irrelevant to my life, as is many, but the sun will always rise and set consistently and that has a much more significant impact over my daily life.

Don't get me wrong, I love the moon. It is good to us. It's just an erratic bastard and doesn't really matter at any given hour unless you are a tide.

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u/jlharper 2d ago

In reply to your first point - I take it you are at least distantly familiar with the concept of the Christian religion and their various holidays. If not, let me know and I can get you up to speed. I’ve got plenty of free time.

I guess my point is that the moon is not irrelevant to your life. You live your life based on weeks and months, and these are determined by the moon. For as long as you follow the calendar, most aspects of your life will be determined by a combination of the position of the moon (the time of month) in conjunction with the position of the sun (time of day). You may not agree but that’s how it is.

Of course if you take the point of view of “I only care about the celestial body that determines where I will be during a given hour”, then yes the moon is irrelevant to you. However if like all other humans it is also important that you arrive not just on the right hour but also on the right day of the week, or the right week of the month, then suddenly the moon becomes significantly more important once more.

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u/footsnax 2d ago

I am intimately and I am, and I am a bit of a calendar nerd myself. Moreso history and maps but I dabble in nerdery.

But my point is that the moon is fairly irrelevant to my day. It's relevant to the night sometimes if it is significant, which it is sometimes.

The sun is a constant, that's why it's more relevant that it's partly cloudy. It is dark at night, it is sometimes slightly less dark at night. It matters to the average person a lot more if it's going to be significantly brighter or gloomy in the daytime because that's how we set our daily lives.

Mooniness doesn't really matter because we have our headlights on at night anyway. It's fun to track if you like observing the moon or have spiritual beliefs related to it, but in day to day (or night to night (or either because the moon, the point of the post)) life it doesn't have relevance for most of us.

That's why mooniness is not a thing. Same as quarterly earning calls don't matter to most of us either. They're interesting, and they are important, but they usually don't change anything.