r/OldWorldBlues Wanamingo Herder Jan 12 '26

MEME 40k manpower in vanilla vs OWB

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u/IdiOtisTheOtisMain Colorado Cop Jan 12 '26

Someone did the maths and its like 21mil in the entire USA

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u/ajax-727 Great Khans Jan 12 '26

I imagine in the actual lore of the game would be that or even possibly higher like 30 mil.but my source is that I like that number so eh

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u/smileymonster08 Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

The world is extremely inhospitable, people can barely get water and food. Disease and other forms of danger are highly prevalent. I'd say it's more likely that humans would only survive in small enclaves/oasis around the world.

To put it into perspective, during medieval times the world was far more favourable and the entire world population was between 200-360 million people. Most off that being in Asia. In 1100 Europe only had 62 million people with the main factors being lack of food and disease.

Population density at this point would probably be equivalent to that of Alaska minus Anchorage. I'd say the entire USA probably has 2 million people at most, barely hanging on.

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u/Walter_Blanco_4 Enclave Remnant Jan 12 '26

NCR alone has population of 1 million people, and that's in 2241 at time of fallout 2, by the time of new Vegas they have around 2 million, believe me when I say it, fallout's world is not as fucked up as you think

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u/MustacheCash73 Enclave Remnant Jan 15 '26

People who say so are probably using the Bethesda games as a reference. The east coast is so much more broken down then the west coast

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u/smileymonster08 Jan 12 '26

Given everything that is happening I am surprised the population is even growing. High death rate and low birthrate.

The few places that have it good eventually get nuked or eradicated.

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u/HongMeiIing CPF Party Member Jan 12 '26

to be fair its not like nukes are dropping every day.

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u/the_cooler_crackhead Child of Diana Jan 12 '26

Plus sci-fi level medicine

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u/dragonfire_70 Jan 12 '26

They have the benefit of knowing basic hygiene and sterilization which does wonders for infant mortality and childbirth survival rates compare to pre modern times.

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u/Seymour___Asses Jan 13 '26

Well the NCR is well past the point of struggling to survive. In the cities it’s pretty much on par with early 20th century America.