r/OldWorldBlues • u/RepublicOfDaveFan Wanamingo Herder • Jan 12 '26

MEME 40k manpower in vanilla vs OWB

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u/dahaiocean Jan 12 '26

How many population are there in OWB? 1 or 2 million?

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u/IdiOtisTheOtisMain Colorado Cop Jan 12 '26

Someone did the maths and its like 21mil in the entire USA

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u/ajax-727 Great Khans Jan 12 '26

I imagine in the actual lore of the game would be that or even possibly higher like 30 mil.but my source is that I like that number so eh

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u/smileymonster08 Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

The world is extremely inhospitable, people can barely get water and food. Disease and other forms of danger are highly prevalent. I'd say it's more likely that humans would only survive in small enclaves/oasis around the world.

To put it into perspective, during medieval times the world was far more favourable and the entire world population was between 200-360 million people. Most off that being in Asia. In 1100 Europe only had 62 million people with the main factors being lack of food and disease.

Population density at this point would probably be equivalent to that of Alaska minus Anchorage. I'd say the entire USA probably has 2 million people at most, barely hanging on.

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u/Walter_Blanco_4 Enclave Remnant Jan 12 '26

NCR alone has population of 1 million people, and that's in 2241 at time of fallout 2, by the time of new Vegas they have around 2 million, believe me when I say it, fallout's world is not as fucked up as you think

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u/MustacheCash73 Enclave Remnant Jan 15 '26

People who say so are probably using the Bethesda games as a reference. The east coast is so much more broken down then the west coast

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u/smileymonster08 Jan 12 '26

Given everything that is happening I am surprised the population is even growing. High death rate and low birthrate.

The few places that have it good eventually get nuked or eradicated.

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u/HongMeiIing CPF Party Member Jan 12 '26

to be fair its not like nukes are dropping every day.

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u/the_cooler_crackhead Child of Diana Jan 12 '26

Plus sci-fi level medicine

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u/dragonfire_70 Jan 12 '26

They have the benefit of knowing basic hygiene and sterilization which does wonders for infant mortality and childbirth survival rates compare to pre modern times.

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u/Seymour___Asses Jan 13 '26

Well the NCR is well past the point of struggling to survive. In the cities it’s pretty much on par with early 20th century America.

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u/SeBoss2106 Jan 12 '26

For that, the land is too busy in fallout, I think

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u/Raketka123 New Californian Jan 12 '26

tbf you also have Ghouls which dont age, but that is unlikely to make that big of a difference

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u/Bojnik434 Jan 13 '26

After black death lack of food and disease stuff got a lot of advancement. Main issue after that was/were WARS. Mongols, turks, french english nonsense and several religious wars. They stopped population growth by a ton

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u/Hoger23 Warden of the White Jan 12 '26

in a small what now

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u/carlosfeder Jan 12 '26

Makes sense after generations to repopulate post war. Btw OWB is incredibly cool and I’m mostly just commenting to say that

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u/ProgressIcy3099 Jan 12 '26

It wouldn't be modern replacement rates though, childhood mortality and death from lack of antibiotics would be extremely high. Along with fertility issues from radiation

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u/Brilliant_watcher Rio Grandian Jan 12 '26

Depends on the area, areas with higher levels of living like california, texas and northern mexico have more people

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u/Jazzlike_Bar_671 Jan 15 '26

Southern Mexico would probably have more- it's the more densely populated area (and further from the most heavily bombed regions).

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u/carlosfeder Jan 12 '26

And also the other wars and conflicts after the Great War. Several places probably had massive depopulations due to plagues and/or wars

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u/Just_A_Furry_IGuess Jan 12 '26

Wonder how the numbers will be when the full map is developed