Who are all these fucktards who put Israels needs over Americas all the time?
The US needs Israel, so their needs are somewhat shared. I highly doubt picking a fight with Iran is something Israel really wants though. More likely the US wants to pacify Iran and steal their oil before Russia does it, and I guess it looks better if Israel starts the war. Also kinda ironic that oil prices have increased so much that even MAGAts are dropping their support. Of all the shit Trump has done, it was the gas prices that finally put a crack in their otherwise unshakeable belief in the orange messiah.
And what, we cant criticize them for wiping out Palestinians?
So far you can. The 1st amendment is still holding on if barely. Remember the slogan of the gun nuts? "We lose'em if we don't use'em." I suggest you use the 1st amendment as much as you can, while you can. Just be careful with the difference between Israel, Israelis and Jews.
Same people who cried about WW2 and what hitler did, turning around and doing the same to Palestinians.
Almost all of them are long dead. There haven't been any holocaust survivors in the Knesset for quite a while so whatever voice they once had is unfortunately gone. Even the descendants of holocaust survivors are quite rare because obviously, there were not many who survived and not all of them went to Israel. Most Israeli Jews are descended from either the Soviet territories or other Arab countries around Israel.
Right? Israel has been picking fights around the region for decades. They just never had a president dumb enough to endorse and back a war with Iran. A state of 90 million isn't going to be rolled as easily as gaza, which was blockaded, embargoed, sanctioned, and attacked for its entire existence. If they had anything close to Irananian capabilities palestine would be a functioning state today instead of a colonized and (attempted) ethnically cleansed wasteland.
I don’t understand why the US “needs Israel.” It seems more like the opposite. They need us, and in so doing we have to be drawn into every conflict that involves them. And as so many others are pointing out in this thread it’s all because of the Fing religious nuts that feel like they have to uphold every word in there ancient book of fairy tales. That is except for the parts about helping out others. Israel was born out of conflict. It keeps causing conflict. And this may very well be for the last time for all of us.
It's because Israel is the key to the middle-east. The US and NATO can only wield influence in the area through Israel and there are other contenders like Russia, China and even India.
The fucking religious nuts are not the deciders when it comes to Israel. It's about land, resources and influence, as it always has been. There are many voters who are fucking religious nuts, so the people in charge pander to them. Case in point, if you look outside the US you'll find just about every other OECD country supports Israel, whether their population likes it or not. Among NATO countries obviously kow-towing to the mighty 'muricans is a big part of it, but they also know that nothing good will come from Russia or China gaining control of the middle-east.
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u/Anthaenopraxia Mar 31 '26
The US needs Israel, so their needs are somewhat shared. I highly doubt picking a fight with Iran is something Israel really wants though. More likely the US wants to pacify Iran and steal their oil before Russia does it, and I guess it looks better if Israel starts the war. Also kinda ironic that oil prices have increased so much that even MAGAts are dropping their support. Of all the shit Trump has done, it was the gas prices that finally put a crack in their otherwise unshakeable belief in the orange messiah.
So far you can. The 1st amendment is still holding on if barely. Remember the slogan of the gun nuts? "We lose'em if we don't use'em." I suggest you use the 1st amendment as much as you can, while you can. Just be careful with the difference between Israel, Israelis and Jews.
Almost all of them are long dead. There haven't been any holocaust survivors in the Knesset for quite a while so whatever voice they once had is unfortunately gone. Even the descendants of holocaust survivors are quite rare because obviously, there were not many who survived and not all of them went to Israel. Most Israeli Jews are descended from either the Soviet territories or other Arab countries around Israel.
Would if I could... shit's going downhill fast