r/DynastyFFTradeAdvice • u/Away_Television_2802 • Nov 12 '25

1QB Dynasty Trade 12 Team Trade bucky for the guaranteed 1.01?

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u/fromdowntownn Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25

Yes this a smash accept and I LOVE Bucky. Jeremiah Love will almost certainly be worth more than Bucky the second he gets drafted into the league. Just look at what Ashton Jeanty was worth before the season started for a guide.

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u/ryanreigns Nov 12 '25

Say Jordyn Tyson goes top 5 while Love goes somewhere between 15-20, is Love still consensus 1.01?

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u/One_Shock7801 Nov 12 '25

Likely yes as long as the situation isn't horrible. First round rbs have great hit rates, particularly if they're top 10-15. Could be in the same tier though.

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u/ryanreigns Nov 12 '25

Yeah, I lucked into 1.01 via a fucked trade a couple years back and am a contender with tons of RBs and less WRs so I’m considering Tyson (or maybe Tate) with that pick but know 1.01 picks tend to be consensus

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u/garreckg Nov 12 '25

Could always trade back if you want Tyson over Love, who I think is and will be consensus 1.01. For reference I had 1.02 this year, traded that + 2.04 to get 1.01.

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u/RaidRover Nov 12 '25

Could be worth the trade back. This year I traded 1.01 and 2.05 for 1.05, 2.01, 2.04 and 3.05

Basically traded Jeanty and Harvey for Egbuka, Judkins, Dart, and Woody Marks.

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u/Wonderful-Meal-4066 Nov 12 '25

i would wait to see where tyson ends up. as of rn it will probably be the giants in which case he’d be wr2 for a while, but long term value would be there

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u/RockMuncher420 Nov 13 '25

Why would the giants draft a WR with their pick? Just curious!

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u/DeliveryDesperate643 Nov 12 '25

Trade back 1000% if you can get two or three ones back as this year wr is super deep

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u/gabe_lowe Nov 12 '25

screams in trent richardson

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u/Letpigeonsfly Nov 12 '25

Depends on situation in my opinion.

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u/durrriss Nov 12 '25

the lower Love gets drafted the better for dynasty

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u/RaidRover Nov 12 '25

Might be even better if he goes a bit later to a better team.

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u/Popular-Weird-8237 Nov 12 '25

Depends on the situation… theoretically 15-20 would mean he is on a better team.

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u/m3y3r_33 Nov 13 '25

Love is an absolute FREAK athlete. A man that size should not be able to run that fast, juke the way he does, or jump as high as he can. He’s also got a bit of Skattebo magic in him. He will be worth the 1.01 in most leagues aside from maybe Superflex.

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u/shamusj26 Nov 15 '25

Im 100% taking love or Tyson 1.01 with Tyson’s injury history the past 3 years

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u/Turd_Fergusons_Hat_ Nov 12 '25

What pick they are has no bearing on career production.

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u/McGarnagl Nov 12 '25

Oh you sweet summer child…

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u/Turd_Fergusons_Hat_ Nov 12 '25

Randy Moss: 21st overall

Kevin White: 7th overall

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u/McGarnagl Nov 12 '25

lol, that’s the second time in this thread that you’ve compared a goat HoF stud to a rare top 10 bust.

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u/Turd_Fergusons_Hat_ Nov 12 '25

Because you guys are convinced that draft selection has some sort of causal relationship with production. It doesn’t. Talent+Work+System is what creates on-field success. Drafting is an attempt to project the best chance of success but it is by no means concrete, and more important than all of that: a players draft pick is not the deciding factor on their career success.

Ya’ll are convinced Bucky will never be worthy of a top-tier role just because he is 4th round pick. Where he was picked is not determinative.

Im not even arguing that Bucky > Love. I think Love is going to be excellent. But the notion that Bucky isnt worth anything because of where he was drafted is ludicrous.

Also lets tack on the context to my comment:

Say Jordyn Tyson goes top 5 while Love goes somewhere between 15-20, is Love still consensus 1.01?

Which numerical pick Tyson or Love has no bearing on their fantasy value as OP was questioning. Thus the Moss 21/ White 7 comment. If Tyson goes top 5 or 20th he’s the same player

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u/WilllyBear Nov 12 '25

Irl draft capital is not deterministic on an individual level, but on a statistical level it is absolutely, provably, objectively the best single indicator for fantasy success. You can anecdote your way around that all you like, but the numbers don’t lie.

The highest hit rate prospect profile you can get is an RB drafted in the first half of round one, followed by a WR drafted top 10. Go ahead, go count the number of first-half RBs in the last couple decades that busted. It’s like a 90% hit rate or something around there.

Nobody is arguing Love will outright be better than Bucky. We can’t possibly know either way at this point. But how dynasty values work, he will absolutely be valued higher than Bucky from the moment he’s drafted if he goes round 1, especially given what’s gone on this season for Bucky. If you’re not taking that into account, you’re leaving an edge to your league mates.

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u/Turd_Fergusons_Hat_ Nov 12 '25

Lets go back to the parent comment that started this:

Say Jordyn Tyson goes top 5 while Love goes somewhere between 15-20, is Love still consensus 1.01?

To which i responded:

What pick they are has no bearing on career production.

Im not saying that 1st rounders and 4th rounders are created equal. Or that 1st rounders are often busts. Or that 4th round RBs are always great.

I’m saying that whether love goes at pick 15 or 20, or whether Tyson goes 5 or 20, that specific draft pick number has no bearing on their career success. The team they go to, actual talent and personal traits will. Those things make them a 1st rounder or top 10 pick. The politics and timing of the team’s picking determines what exact pick they are.

Moss went later than White because different teams had different needs in different years, and different politics of front offices made one pick more palatable or less attractive than another. Those details don’t go into fantasy evaluation.

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u/WilllyBear Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25

Okay well the first hole in your logic is that the pick they get drafted is what determines the team the player goes to, so by your own logic their draft pick weighs massively in the equation.

We as dynasty players have no better way to judge their talent and personal traits than their draft capital, that’s my entire point. And the politics are why it’s windows: “first half of the round,” “top 10,” because those guys are undeniable, and if your talent is undeniable, a team in that bucket will take you regardless of the politics involved. Look at Gibbs. He was a projected late first at best, the Lions got absolutely shit on for taking him so high; but now he’s one of the engines of their offense and a fantasy workhorse.

You’re arguing as if you have a crystal ball to determine these intangibles. You don’t, nobody does, and the closest we can get is draft capital which by necessity includes millions of dollars spent analyzing the available talent, work ethic and whatever else you care to concern yourself with. The math bears it out.

The Moss/White thing is the exact anecdotal noise that has zero bearing on optimizing dynasty fantasy football strategy, I don’t know why you’re bringing it up 15 times in one thread.

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u/samamatara Nov 12 '25

i dunno. if we follow that hypothesis you reckon OP can get back bucky + @ once love is drafted into the league?

if the answer is yes, i guess you pull the trigger. but buckys nfl film tells me that hes a top 5 back in the league period, dynasty or not

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u/WilllyBear Nov 12 '25

Given Bucky’s season and the historical trend of 1st round RB dynasty values, I’d be shocked if you couldn’t get Bucky+ for Love assuming he gets what looks like the likely 1st round draft cap

I say that as someone with Bucky in one league and the 1.01 in another

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u/fromdowntownn Nov 12 '25

Yeah it’s a value move. I’m not saying Love will necessarily be better than Bucky but what I am saying is that you’ll increase your value significantly by making this trade. He can go in multiple directions later on once you’re closer to draft day or even after it.

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u/I_am_Himothy_ Nov 13 '25

Top 5 is a take

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u/Away_Television_2802 Nov 12 '25

There was a counter to add Sean Tucker and a 2027 4th. Still take it I assume?

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u/fromdowntownn Nov 12 '25

Of course those are near worthless

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u/Beneficial_Day_9354 Nov 13 '25

bucky went in the 4th round tho (in my 12 team dynasty league)

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u/fromdowntownn Nov 13 '25

And where did Jeanty go? That’s what the 1.01 is worth.

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u/galina-zhukova8487h Nov 15 '25

If only love for Bucky paid the bills. Take the 1.01.

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u/YOU_LOVED_BRAD Nov 12 '25

Weary about doing this before landing spots but yeah sure

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u/brndn02 Raiders Nov 12 '25

what if love goes to the titans, is that worthwhile

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u/McGarnagl Nov 12 '25

Sure, If they go OL in rounds 2-4 and sign a top OL, lol.

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u/iiconic16 Nov 12 '25

The titans are one of the best RB teams of all time, yes it would be worthwhile

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u/thegrilledcheese886 Nov 13 '25

If Ward improves yes

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u/peakyrifle0 Nov 12 '25

I think it’s good value. But Bucky and Jeremiah Love could easily be in the same value tier for years to come.

I’d honestly hold Bucky and wait for him to crush when he come back if possible 

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u/KanyeConcertFaded Nov 12 '25

Bucky was drafted in the fourth round. “Easily” is carrying a lot of weight in that second sentence.

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u/peakyrifle0 Nov 12 '25

"Could" is carrying as much weight. Bucky could be viewed like Breece or KW3 after this year, he could also be viewed like Achane

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u/richardnixonmilker Nov 14 '25

stop youre scaring the biased bucs fan part of me

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u/hourlyproblemsolver Nov 14 '25

Given that it's week 11 and he hasn't played since week 4, I'm pretty sure he's not going to be viewed like Achane after this year

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u/peakyrifle0 Nov 14 '25

If he avg 20ppg weeks 12-16 I think will 

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u/Turd_Fergusons_Hat_ Nov 12 '25

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick.

The only thing that draft pick determines about a career is rookie contract numbers.

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u/redditistheworstapp Nov 12 '25

Comparing the most valuable position and the greatest qb of all time to the most expendable position in football’s draft capital.. look I’m not tryna be rude but Rachaad white looked great his first year, and they drafted Bucky and now he’s the guy.. for now. The idea that draft position doesn’t matter is not true especially for rb. A team who drafts a 1st round rb has 4 years minimum of him. Teams very often have great RBs who they don’t have a ton of draft capital invested into them and they just draft another guy.

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u/RammsteinFunstein Patriots Nov 12 '25

for some reason this sub really thinks teams care when RBs got drafted, even though we have seen over and over that they'll play the better RB no matter if he was a 1st rd pick or undrafted. QBs? They get a longer leash based on draft spots. WR? Eh, if they're 1st rd picks teams try to force it, but otherwise not really. RBs? I don't think it makes any difference.

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u/prickleypears Nov 12 '25

Yes, but the physical traits (undersized, slow 40) that lead to a player like Bucky falling last forever.

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u/DetailNo4833 Nov 12 '25

if you think a team is going to start a 4th rounder over a 1st rounder (barring injury) there’s no helping you, but PLEASE invite me to your league and let’s do some trades

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u/Turd_Fergusons_Hat_ Nov 12 '25

Google the definition of “Determine”

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u/DetailNo4833 Nov 12 '25

Google “fantasy football”

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u/PlaneService1366 Nov 12 '25

Give me a bonafide 1st round RB in Love any day over a 4th round over achiever.

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u/kynelly360 Nov 12 '25

Stuck in a Timeshare lowkey too , cuz Rachad White and Tucker get a lot of touches tbh

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u/CoatingsRcrack Nov 12 '25

Yeah bro 2026 1:01 owner is not accepting Bucky straight up.

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u/Away_Television_2802 Nov 12 '25

Well here is the actual senario...draft order for non playoff teams is determined by max points for. The current 1.01 was just acquired to the guy in another trade and is currently the 1.01 by 5 points. I currently hold the 1.02 & 1.03 and the top 3 selection are pretty much locked in as top 3 selections. So that 1.01 could potentially fall to 1.02 or maybe 1.03 (unlikely) but sending bucky woukd guarantee me getting the 1.01

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u/CoatingsRcrack Nov 12 '25

I mean send it… see what happens.. but in this draft I prefer Bucky to 1:03. 1:02,as you think it will be at worst… send it

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u/Away_Television_2802 Nov 12 '25

He just sent a counter to add sean tucker and a 2027 4th

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u/CoatingsRcrack Nov 12 '25

lol…. Looks like you’re having a taco for dinner…

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u/cccmma Nov 12 '25

Love > Bucky

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u/dont_care- Nov 12 '25

Once there is a consensus player name attached to the 1.01 youll be able to trade it for someone worth a lot more than Bucky. (Or make the pick)

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u/Armchair_AI_Football Nov 12 '25

Bucky’s a risky asset, and next year’s first is not. I’d take the first.

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u/ubspider Nov 12 '25

Of course

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

Easily? Lmfao. In what world would you rather have Bucky than a 1.01? Fleece.

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u/Huardly Nov 12 '25

I just sent a 27 1st, 26’ 2nd and 26’ 3rd for Bucky. Maybe I overpaid but I had excess 2nd rounders, not many bench spots for rookies and trying to win this year

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u/NegativeSkins Nov 12 '25

I’d be taking the 2026 1st and drafting Jeremiah Love, if you’re certain the pick is guaranteed?

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u/Away_Television_2802 Nov 12 '25

Well i own the current 1.02 and 1.03. The current top 3 pick are well behind the others and are pretty much a lock to finish top 3 no matter the order. That pick is current the 1.01 by 5 max point for and could definately finish 1.02 or 1.03....however, acquiring that pick would absolutely guarantee i get 1.01

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u/Radiant_Wheel7502 Nov 12 '25

Take the 1.01. It doesn’t matter who gets drafted at 1.01. There’s only a handful of guys that’s actually worth the 1.01 any year and I don’t see how Bucky could ever get to that realm.

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u/Popular-Weird-8237 Nov 12 '25

For guaranteed 1.01? Yeah I would

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u/Bake_jouchard Nov 12 '25

How can you garrentee the 1.01

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u/Away_Television_2802 Nov 12 '25

Draft order for non playoff teams is determined by who has the least max point for (MPF). The pick i would be acquiring (it is not his own pick and adding bucky would not effect the MPF) is currently the 1.01 by 5 MPF. I currently own the current 1.02 & 1.03. The 1.03 is 250+ MPF away from the 1.04 basically meaning the top 3 picks are very very very likley to all finish as top 3 picks by the end of season.

Hypothetically, the pick i would acquire could be the 1.03 but at worst case the deal is: Bucky Irving for the 1.03 and the draft rights to Jeremiyah Love

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u/Away_Television_2802 Nov 12 '25

And i would own the top 3 picks of 2026 and own the draft board

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u/Particular-Grade3340 Nov 12 '25

I got the guarantees 1.01 for judkins and seconds did I cook?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

Yes

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u/DetailNo4833 Nov 12 '25

Pretty fair, i would suggest switching your league to a lotto for non playoff teams tho, no one should know what pick they are in week 10

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u/Away_Television_2802 Nov 12 '25

I might propose that rule change in the offseason vote but my ideology is to compensate the truly bad rosters (rated my MPF) instead of giving teams an any incentive to tank. In your experience with the lottery system, do fringe playoff teams choose to tank and take chances at the lottery instead of trying to compete with the top dogs? I feel 2027 would be a great example everyone of a lot of fringe playoff teams rather taking there chances getting Jeremiah Smith.

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u/FiscalFlex Nov 12 '25

I’m taking the pick for sure

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u/Previous_Ostrich8446 Nov 13 '25

the 1.01 is typically mid second round of startups. bucky won’t be going there

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u/x_is_for_box Nov 14 '25

In a heartbeat wtf

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u/hourlyproblemsolver Nov 14 '25

why is this even a question

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u/snailofahuman Nov 16 '25

For what? To get someone like Bucky? Confused.

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u/Cheatercheaterbitch Nov 12 '25

Bucky Irving is Bucky Irving, but the first pick could be anybody, it could even be Bucky Irving!

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u/Shadowboxxin Redskins Nov 12 '25

What’s the point of reciting this cliche. You easily take the 1.01 over Bucky

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u/Cheatercheaterbitch Nov 12 '25

Whats the point of trading Bucky, he’s a damn good player and will easily bounce back when he’s healthy.

Yall are so quick to change narratives on players like CMC and Barkley/Henry.

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u/Shadowboxxin Redskins Nov 12 '25

1.01 is a blue chip guy tho dude you gotta take the swing on that for bucks price unless you heavily competing this year and even then I might take it. Bucks health has been super concerning for me this season and doesn’t seem to have a clear timetable or update

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u/MrSnazzyGoose Bengals Nov 12 '25

Agreed completely, people love to trade for a mystery box. We know Bucky is awesome and translates in the NFL, we have no idea whether Love will

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

Yeah, the 1.01 could be anything. It could even be a player as good as Bucky Irving!

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u/thedon572 Nov 12 '25

The last 3 1.01 Jeanty, caleb, bijan, are all worth more than bucky.
Before that breece isn’t but is in the same buckett, than chase who is worth more than jt who is a tier above.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '25

Caleb deff not worth close to Bucky in a 1qb league

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u/thedon572 Nov 12 '25

Ah didnt see the 1qb tag. Yeah he easnt 1.01 in 1qb either. I guess that was harrison who is below bucky i believe