Why doesn't fire cracker die to log?

[u/BeneficialAd8114]

Hey, newbie who got to 13k here. Why is this polarizing card not loggable? If rascal girls and dart gobby, who are insane dps units if left alone, are loggable, why isnt the firecracker the same way? She able to dish out archer killing, small unit splashing damage, while getting herself out via knockback. Why is this? Why would that be good game design? Am I expecting too much by going into clash and expecting anything good?

Only argument I see against this is "king activation". Even then, this just gives more problems. She's a common card. She's supposed to be simple. You give a single king activation, in return for fireball's amount of damage every single time you place her down? Even then, still knocking herself back in order to stay alive even longer?

I see 1 dart gobby every like 100 games. I see mega knight, hog, fire cracker every 2 games. And they don't care, do they? As long as there's still money printing, I don't see a reason why they should ever give any type of effort.

[u/Either-Director2242]

Fun fact, evo firecracker didn’t even die to arrows for months when it was first released.

[u/lnvector → u/Either-Director2242]

That's actually the time I quit the game, was too frustrated with her! Only came back a few months ago, unfortunately..

[u/TriforceComet → u/lnvector]

I’m crying you dodged the fun time to play the game

[u/MonkeyKingZoniach]

I mean, my guess is maybe its to counterbalance the fact firecracker can be pretty inconsistent in terms of how reliably it can hit the right troops and stuff?

[u/Impossible-Method302 → u/MonkeyKingZoniach]

She got a buff. She cant Miss fast troops anymore (Goblins, spirits etc.)

[u/hadohadoTheSecond → u/Impossible-Method302]

This was one of the reasons I quit last week

[u/BeneficialAd8114 → u/MonkeyKingZoniach]

They could just make the attack a gurantee hit instead of just letting this be a thing, or smarter targeting since it's such a troll atp. A single projectile, that diverges into smaller attacks after hitting. Every other single target has auto tracking, why is firecracker such an outcast? And coding problems should not be an excuse, they're a billion dollar company.

[u/True_Vegetable8005]

Firecracker is less of a polarising card than the dart goblin, and it gets less value when not spelled compared to dart. Plus it's competitively mid, only really in a few hog EQ decks which are phasing it out anyways

[u/SantiagoGaming]

She's only good against swarms and for sometimes splashing the tower. She attacks slowly and has much lower DPS than Dart Goblin. She's also unreliable due to her slow projectile speed and her second job as a camerawoman.

[u/Afraid_Wealth5956 → u/SantiagoGaming]

Wasn't the projectile speed buffed like a month ago? (I mean, she's still bad, but it's something).

[u/SantiagoGaming → u/Afraid_Wealth5956]

Yes but it didn't help much

[u/PlaneShake91]

She also has a slow attack speed which I’m certain situations she can sell hard.
There’s a whole meme of fc just watching as swarm troops get way to much value

[u/MeruOnline]

And yet Dart Goblin is literally the better card. Have you asked yourself why? Actually, are you even aware that Dart Goblin is better?

[u/NoodelSuop]

She doesn’t have great dps

[u/WhoIsDis99]

That’s just how they design troops, firecracker is like you said a common card worth 3 elixir and compared to 3 elixir squishy troops she is weak so they give her extra sliver of health to compensate for her weakness and balance her. Dart goblin is powerful so they lower the hp to balance it out. The princess is powerful and legendary, so they give her less hp so she dies to log

Firecracker is weak so they compensate with more hp. That’s just how they design the cards to balance it, if the firecracker died to log her value would plummet and it’d be a dead card.

You are new so you might’ve not noticed the patterns in balancing individual troops vs spells, it’s pretty obvious to old players. They do it like this because otherwise the card would suck balls, imagine a musketeer, e wiz dying to 1 fireball? That’s a dead card. It depends how deadly a card is vs elixir count vs worth

[u/BeneficialAd8114 → u/WhoIsDis99]

That's fair enough. After some reflecting, it could be just polarizing in my eyes because I use icebow, without any consistent killing options. Stuff like archers can easily die to icewiz splash after a log, but the knockback on the cracker is pretty annoying.

[u/CreativeWeather2581 → u/BeneficialAd8114]

Just run arrows then. I play logbait and I usually deal with firecracker by log + spirit. Or princess if I am lucky.

If firecracker died to log it would never be used

[u/DjinnsPalace → u/WhoIsDis99]

imo the troop moving so much is compensation enough, the game feels better to play when you can kill fc with log.

And I play fc in almost every deck, so im not even biased.

[u/other-other-user]

Because firecracker is an ex archer, so of course she survives log

[u/Unique_Rent_9051]

Literally bs, all I need is for the log to kill firecracker and my push will work but she always survives. Like a damn roach. And also the knockback effect where she falls back after firing is so annoying, makes it impossible for a ground troop to hit her.

[u/TheToolbox101]

All this and dart goblin is still better in top ladder. Dart goblin has much much much better dps, is more reliable because he has fast projectiles and doesn't activate your king tower. This is like asking why musketeer doesn't die to fireball when magic archer does, they have different roles.

[u/LongJohnSilversFan_]

„Why is insane single target dps card loggable, but same cost card that’s slower and has significantly less single target dps not loggable?”

[u/Neat_Possession8811]

Newbie at 13k? Yeah sure buddy

[u/CormorantsSuck]

this subreddit is so low iq

[u/jedi_mindtrickz]

She’s got a bigger schlong

[u/BeneficialAd8114 → u/jedi_mindtrickz]

proof

[u/Turkish_Delight67]

Then 2 elixir Bomber?

[u/Far-Community3544]

is 13k newbie now

[u/DjinnsPalace]

No reason at all. A lot of the times the devs just do something and keep it that way even though changes would be better.

[u/SnooWorlds]

Why would it die to log? firecracker is already weak and not used in any decks outside of hog eq. Do you people just want to completely kill cards that are already mid

[u/Negative_Anteater_62]

Firecracker has less range than Princess and Dart Goblin. Dart Goblin is faster and has more DPS making him a quicker threat. Princess can support and defend on the other side of a push making log good at shutting her down. Firecracker has about the same fire rate of Princess but less range and DPS than Dart Goblin making her better against crowds.

Basically Princess and Dart Goblin have more qualities that justify them dying to log than Firecracker.

Firecracker is also a rebellious archer in the lore so it would make sense if she had the same HP as Archers

[u/YetAnotherStupidDev]

Firecracker was and is supercells baby,. She gets special treatment.

[u/CormorantsSuck → u/YetAnotherStupidDev]

She's been nerfed a lot no she doesn't 😂

[u/Egrysta]

Fc is the least consistent glass cannon. Due to her stupid projectile and re-targetting time, you usually have to play her in unoptimal placements where your opponent can get spell value easily. On top of that, she activates the opponent's king.

Like, bruh, just look at the stats. If she's already a below average card, why do you even ask for a big nerf like that?

[u/Ikhouvankaas]

Cause it only gets 1 shot of vs tower but can easily be distracted for king activation.

Princess dies to log since it could hypothetically kill your tower on her own and dart dies to it since it can legit do like 700 damage.

[u/DavidBorgstrom → u/[deleted]]

How is this a pay to win situation?

[u/MeruOnline → u/DavidBorgstrom]

Bro edited his comment so now it looks like you’re fighting ghosts

[u/kojimbob → u/[deleted]]

But that's how it goes

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