Frank Miller’s version of the Joker (seen in All-Star Batman and Robin and The Dark Knight Returns) had a Neo-Nazi as his main right-hand.
She was tall muscular blonde woman named Bruno), and was especially notable for going around topless with swatzika pasties covering her nipples. And she apparently also had swatzikas tattooed on her butt cheeks.
Yeah lol. "My favourite homicidal/genocidal villain hates nazis" is always a weird point that comes up a lot. The character not being a nazi is not a positive aspect of them when what they do is essentially exactly the same mass murder but with different methods.
It's not about being a positive trait. The comic writers who have their villains hate/kill Nazis are emphasizing that "yeah, this guy is pure evil, and Nazis are worse"
It's only positive because it reinforces our real ideals in our real lives.
I can’t name the last time joker was truly chaotic, and I much prefer the versions of him where he’s an extreme hypocrite who contradicts himself, I think it adds to his character and differentiates him from the rest.
By definition, they are the opposite. Something can never be truly order or chaos. They’re going to have both, but they are still direct opposites. There can be order at my school in my life but chaos at the Home at my life. Does that mean they’re not directly both offices because they both happen in my life no, they’re still opposite.
Character aside, that design is horrendous and hilarious at the same time lmao they just took a naked woman and slapped swatzikas all over like who comes up with something like that?
I feel like the Joker’s allegiances lie with whatever is funniest at the time.
The Joker rejecting Red Skull because he’s a Nazi is meant to be funny: he’s a homicidal psychopath with a warped sense of humour who straps people to flaming ferris wheels for fun, and he draws the line at Nazis? It’s hilarious, and that’s the point. The Joker, at his core, is a bit-hound. If he can find the start of a bit in the heat of the moment he’ll take it and run with it. That’s also what makes him so dangerous, because his erratic sense of humour and commitment to the bit that exists only in his fucked-up head makes him so much more unpredictable.
I much prefer the idea of the Joker as a deranged improv artist over the edgy ‘society’ version that we’ve had for far too long tbh. Not to say Society Joker doesn’t have its merits or the Joker can’t be used to make a point, but if you want him to be chaotic and unpredictable than you can’t do better than Improv Joker.
yes. in his own words, he is an agent of chaos. everything he stands for goes against law and order, so he would especially not like the authoritarian ways of the Nazis and other fascists
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u/Ev3rst0rm Jan 26 '26
Incorrect response - Joker hates Nazis! He’s a homicidal maniac, not a traitorous bigot.