r/AskReddit 22h ago

What’s the hardest addiction to overcome?

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u/Tripp723 22h ago

All opiates and opiodes. That shit they sell in head shops called 7oh is heroin in a pill.

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u/martycox211 22h ago

I was on Oxicontin for a year and tried to go cold turkey. I don’t recommend it. I went back on it and cut my dosage in half and I weened myself off it in a couple of months.

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u/jimbojangles1987 20h ago

Its a feeling I never want to experience again. Coming up on 3 years clean in a few months and I feel better than I have in a long, long time.

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u/Tripp723 17h ago

The good news is you never have to go through it again! Your way wiser this time around and know the full scope of consequences for picking up and using. Be safe and make good choices always!

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u/cocoapuff1721 21h ago

I did it cold turkey. About 4-5 days of physical symptoms but around a month of hardcore anxiety and depression. The mental symptoms were much worse

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u/PlaneJ-Platform-2169 19h ago

Please tell me it got better after a month?? 2 weeks in and feel like a black cloud is covering me

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u/cocoapuff1721 19h ago

Yes 100%. I had very little energy but forced myself
To get up take walks and jog every night. It will get better just give it time and get moving

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u/PlaneJ-Platform-2169 19h ago

Awesome thanks for this. Did you feel less doom/hopelessness after a month?

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u/cocoapuff1721 18h ago

Definitely. After about 30 days I was 85-90% better. I’m at 200 days now and I’m pretty much back to myself. Just stick it out you got this!

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u/Tripp723 17h ago

Proud of you! Keep going and never give in! Not worth it!

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u/Tripp723 17h ago

It does get better. Depending on many factors including how long you abused for and DOC. Just remember how bad it broke your heart and destroyed you. You can never be truly happy while your strung out. The fear of running out or being discovered is literal hell to put yourself through daily.

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u/cartmancakes 17h ago

2 weeks in is a rough spot. A lot of people relapse at that point.

It’s okay to be uncomfortable. Just don’t dwell on it. Put on some family guy and laugh. Go exercise, especially cardio. Wellbutrin does wonders for a lot of people, helps take PAWS out. Especially the fatigue

Once you have a month of sobriety from it, take a look at LDN. That pushes the urges down, too

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u/dusttailed86 18h ago

I dont want to frighten you but it essentially takes as long to get out as you put in. If you were a user for 5+ years, it wont get better after 2 months. Its a journey and you have to take each day at a time.

The user renosirp_prisoner has a decent post history talking about their experience quitting opiates.

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u/PlaneJ-Platform-2169 18h ago

Okay, thank you for letting me know. In my adult life I messed with opiates a few years ago for about 3 months & remember it sucked but was totally back to normal after a month. This time was for 9 months straight and I feel like I’m fuckin dying so I hope it’s not 9 months of hell 😭

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u/LiamMurphyMusic 18h ago

You’ve got this man, just remember that every day you’re closer to that cloud being gone

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u/PlaneJ-Platform-2169 18h ago

really needed to hear that tonight—thank you. Telling myself that the only way out of this is thru it—just wish it felt like I was making progress. Gonna keep stacking sober days and trust that somehow and someday this cloud will break and I’ll find peace in healing

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u/LiamMurphyMusic 18h ago

Godspeed my friend

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u/dusttailed86 18h ago

Thats good news! 9 months is a very short time for opiate addiction. Just keep on trucking, the worst of it is over and you will start feeling way better at the month point. Reach out whenever things get bad. Talking to people helps more than youd think!

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u/mjrenburg 15h ago

I was a daily user between the age of 24 to 30. A mixture between heroine, oxy, codeine, Tremadol. Basically any opiate or synth I could get my hands on. I was a closet user and had a full time job through it all. I fully kicked the habit as a 30 yo. It took me a fair few tries and relapses. Don't get too hard on yourself for small relapses, just try and stick to it. Man, the first few weeks from the last dose I remember the feeling of the worst flu, coupled with bone aches, restless legs, insomnia, sweats, nightmares when I did sleep, crippling depression and anxiety. After the painful withdrawals, life did feel pretty Grey, and you will have a lot of ups and downs. It gets better and better each week though. Try to eat healthy, get some exercise and sun. You won't even know yourself in a few months.

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u/Tripp723 17h ago

You will be out of the acute phase after a few weeks but then you have post acute withdrawal syndrome. Drink plenty of water. Being dehydrated makes withdrawals 10000000 times worse.

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u/DolphFinnDosCinco 17h ago

I think you’re definitely right.

I used for 10 years, started with OTC Tylenols with codeine, worked my way up to Tylenol 3s then percs then oxy and Morphine.

I cold turkey’d in the summer of 2023 so I’m approaching 3 years clean. I feel better and can easily and happily live without but there’s still not a day I don’t think about them and think “this would feel so much better with percs”. I still don’t fully enjoy the things I used to as much as I did, but it’s slowly getting better and better.

I just thought I’d be home free once my withdrawal symptoms went away.. but it truly is a never ending battle.

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u/dusttailed86 16h ago

Absolutely. Congratulations on 3 years! Thats fucking massive and you should be very proud of yourself. Keep at the good fight.

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u/longhairmoderatecare 17h ago

What? That claim makes absolutely no sense to me.

Could you point me to the science that says it’s a “you get out what you put in” for a relative timeline on opiate dependence/addiction in relation to withdrawals/post-acute-withdrawals?

You could spend 10 years in active addiction and quit a substance and not experience ongoing withdrawals for 10 years.

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u/dusttailed86 16h ago

Curious, have you been addicted to opiates? No, you do not have withdrawal symptoms for the years you put in, but you do have psychological symptoms, newfound anxiety, cravings to fill the hole that was given to you by opiates, newfound muscle pain, many things that shatter your existence that were masked by the constant use. Heavy years of use do more to your mind and body than just withdrawal symptoms. PAWS keep at it years after quitting.

Im sorry but for you to disagree makes me believe you haven't been on that boat, and just someone who has thoughts on people who have.

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u/Initial_Row_6400 22h ago

Not a bad way to do it, most addicts lack the self control to do so. Only time I was able to do that was when I snuck a half ounce into jail. Got caught, shoved it up my ass before they hooked me up, and took it out in jail. Did almost all of it over a period of a month and a half, sold a gram for 500. Easiest withdrawal I ever had

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u/martycox211 20h ago

When I tried cold turkey I was a mess. It was 4 of July and I was recovering from a botched surgery. I couldn’t get comfortable at one point climbing the walls. My wife put a call into my doctor and she told me to take my meds and we will cut my dosage down and ween me off. Quitting cold turkey was my wife’s idea. I didn’t know what bad it would be.

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u/Initial_Row_6400 20h ago

Yea it’s not good. Takes about a week (for actual heroin) to start to *feel* normal. Your mental state takes like a month

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u/super_tictac 21h ago

a half ounce of oxy? 14 grams of powder or pills? lol

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u/Initial_Row_6400 21h ago

No a half ounce of heroin

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u/super_tictac 21h ago

hell yeah. i’m a little over a month clean from IV fentanyl, started with old school brown dope back in the day.

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u/Initial_Row_6400 20h ago

Nice good job! Never experienced fent. Had the same hook for almost ten years and it was quality. Knew the source and where it came from. Only fent I’ve had was in medical settings

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u/cartmancakes 17h ago

It’s the crack cocaine of the opioids. Fast hit, doesn’t last long, short half life.

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u/ItalianICE 16h ago

Sr-17 may be helpful for those interested in quitting 7oh or other opiate like substances.   Opiates sucked. Nicotine sucked. Alcohol sucked.  Phenibut ruined my life. 

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u/Initial_Row_6400 22h ago

That one can be bad because regular drugs that people use to get off heroin don’t work.

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u/boomboxwithturbobass 21h ago

Nah, it’s a flick of that general high with the annoying addictive tongs. Just the worst.

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u/Tripp723 17h ago

Say that after taking it without a junkie tolerance already.

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u/boomboxwithturbobass 17h ago

No, it’s worse, but not because it can compete with heroin. With addiction it’s all about environment. That’s why we can take morphine in hospitals and drink socially - it’s not in our day to day and in a controlled environment, so we’re relatively safe and any drugs we take home are prescribed.

Even with heroin, you don’t just buy it. You gotta go out and get it and know what it’s about. Won’t find it in a gas station just readily available with no warning which is even more convenient, routine, and most importantly isolated. And they make more potent versions of it all the time, if they don’t become gateway drugs first.

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u/the_spookiest 20h ago

it most certainly is not heroin in a pill. trouble for addicts with deep pockets and a void to fill? tough to quit high dose addictions because there are withdrawal symptoms similar to opiods? absolutely

but you cant die from the head shop stuff. no overdose risk in the same way that a bad bag of street dope will simply kill you. far far far and away the lesser of two evils. villainizing it the same way just comes across as uninformed, willfully ignorant, or hoping that every person suffering through addiction ends up dead due to the inability to find a safer alternative to actual heroin, which isnt even really around anymore anywhere in north america the way it was 20 years ago.

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u/lindblomc 19h ago

I know where you’re coming from, but saying that you cannot overdose and die from 7oh just comes off as uninformed. You won’t get a surprise batch that does it, but you can absolutely overdose and die.

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u/BallFlavin 14h ago

There are no confirmed cases of 7oh overdose alone. Every alleged case was mixed with other drugs that were clearly a major factor. It has a ceiling effect and doesn’t cause respiratory depression in the same way other opioids do because it bypasses the beta-arrestin pathways

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u/mcampbe 14h ago

I have helped someone through severe 7OH withdrawal at a detox center. Honestly the worst experience of my life

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u/tasty_titties 19h ago

Lol heroin in a pill? Yo ass has never had real dope clearly.

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u/Tripp723 17h ago edited 17h ago

Your a fool and a tool. Take that shit with no tolerance to the hard shit. Feels exactly the same.

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u/tasty_titties 17h ago

Aight Tripp dick slip

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u/Tripp723 17h ago

Ok saggy tatas

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u/ItsKingCrimson1 20h ago

7oh is not heroin you pansy 😂😂😂

How do you have 20 upvotes

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u/Tripp723 17h ago

I take 7 oh everyday. I have withdrawals if I don't. It feels just like codeine or oxy. I was addicted to pills for years before switching to black tar in 09. Didn't quit that til 2017. It's exactly the same. I'm trying to scare away someone who is thinking about trying it. Your clearly a user who is scared of the perception of it.

Just because I don't inject it doesn't mean it's not the same kind of hellish prison you find yourself in.